Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
Okay, so I'm taking one big trip before I leave to go back to school, and since I finally got my passport I decided to go to Europe. After a few days of thinking and looking at flights, I decided on Zurich. Does anyone who maybe lives there or who has been there have any suggestions for things to do? I thought I read in a magazine I subscribe to that they have an observation deck that you can go out on for a couple Swiss Francs. If so that would be really cool. I think I also remember reading about an airplane hobby shop? My flight arrives at 8:30 or 9:00 in the morning and I can't check into my hotel until noon, so I've got a little time to kill. I also don't feel like lugging my 22 all around downtown Zurich, so staying at or around the airport is preferable. Also, what is there to do in the downtown area? I'm sure I can figure a lot out by myself, but any suggestions are welcome. And finally, what about night life? I'm going alone because none of my friends wanted to buy a $450 Buddy Pass from me (cheapos!) Are there any clubs or anything like that are good to go to? If it helps, I'll be leaving from MLI on DL4390 on August 15, ATL-ZRH on DL66 arriving August 16. I'll be staying at the Park Inn Zurich.
Next question is about London. Sort of last minute I found $65 airfare from ZRH-LGW on BA, so I went for it. I think London should be easier to figure out, but if anyone has any favorite spots they'd like to share I'm all ears. I arrive into LGW at 12:30PM on August 18th and leave on DL11 at 8:55AM on August 19th.
I appreciate all the help because I'm really excited but also really nervous because I'm only 20 and I'm traveling outside the US (besides Canada) for the first time. Again I appreciate all the help and I'll definitely post a link to my album when I get back.
IcLCY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 256 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2004 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Thread starter): Next question is about London. Sort of last minute I found $65 airfare from ZRH-LGW on BA, so I went for it. I think London should be easier to figure out, but if anyone has any favorite spots they'd like to share I'm all ears. I arrive into LGW at 12:30PM on August 18th and leave on DL11 at 8:55AM on August 19th.
You don't say where yr staying & London is a very big place, so that will have some impact on yr few hours in London.
If you want history/max sights, then because yr short of time I'd take one of the many tour buses which ply the routes from Tower Hill to Buckingham Palace.
Camden Market will be in full swing by the time you get in to central London, Northern Line(Black Line) to get there.
As for nightlife, there is everthing from pinky to kinky. Buy a copy of TimeOut, for a comp guide to nightlife here. Or head to G-A-Y(straight friendly) for £15 & see some major pop act around 1am then hangout till 3or4am then head back to LGW.
ZRH is pretty boring when it comes to London. Not many sights & the nightlife mediocre.
Helvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1999 times:
You don't need to lug your luggage into Zürich, there are lockers both in the airport (follow the signs for check in 2 and go to the top level) and at the rail station. Should cost you around 5 francs for 24 hours.
The observation deck is on top of the B dock and will cost a few francs, you get to it through check in 2.
There's quite a lot to do in Zürich, depending on what you want to do. The main nightlife areas are Niederdorf on the opposite bank of the Limmat to the main station and Zuri West around Escher Wyss Platz (trams 4 and 13) Niederdorf is a bit red light but nothing serious. The Langstrasse area also has quite a lot but is very red light - don't worry, it's pretty safe.
getting around Zurich is easy, it is mainly trams and buses with lake boats. Everything is on the same ticket which you buy from a ticket machine at the station or the tram stop. Beware, if you are here at the weekend and are travelling on the night buses and trains you must buy a nacht zuschlag (*162 on the machines, 5 francs) you will be checked and if you are caught without one being a foreigner will not save you from being busted for 80 francs.
One important fact, the drinking age in Switzerland is 16 for beer, wine and cider, 18 for everything else; in the UK it is 18 for everything. Much better than 21
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1981 times:
I think you should indeed pay a visit to ZRH observation deck!!! It's worth of it and the place have a nice snack-bar were you can have a sandwich and a soda ( or beer...) to keep on going, and of course the Aviation-Shop were you can find lot's of aviation books and also the latest aviation magazines. I was there last March for about 2 hours coming from STR on my way to LIS....it was afternoon so a lot of "exotic" airplanes were already gone, but still I had the chance to see the "rare" Airbus A340-200 from SAA resting for the return flight to South Africa, and of course lots of SWISS airplanes, including a few A330's and A340's! The price is 2 CHF...very acceptable! I've been a few times in Zurich too and it's a great place to visit, lot's of nice shops, great monuments too and above all the relaxing swiss atmosphere that ( at least for me as a portuguese...) makes you feel "closer to heaven"!
Regards and have a great trip!
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1908 times:
Thanks for the suggestions! IcLCY: Sorry, I forgot to put that I'm staying at the LGW Hilton. Since I'm only going to be there for a day I didn't want to have to worry about transportation to and from the airport, especially since my flight leaves kind of early. I'll be in Zurich on Friday, so does that count as a weekend? If so, what is the nacht zuschlag you speak of? I don't want to get into TOO much trouble while I'm over there! And when you say that part of Zurich is red light, is it like Amsterdam? Sorry, I don't know a whole lot about Europe, so correct me if I'm wrong. Again, thanks for all the help and for the web sites. I'm looking for a good time, and it's good to know that I can actually drink while I'm over there. This last year is going to kill me for sure! Again, thanks for all the help.
SandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3404 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1847 times:
Quoting Sr176 (Reply 6): Be aware the hotel Park Inn is not in the city, it is outside in a small town called Rümlang, 5km from the airport.
It's actually only a short walk away from the Heligrill spotting point.
When exiting the hotel, walk up to the main street and turn right, follow the street until you see a red pedestrian-bridge crossing the street. Just before that bridge, make a right-turn and follow that street. You'll cross a small river, then follow a forest and suddenly you'll be in front of the airport.
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2733 posts, RR: 58 Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Acey559, from what I can see you're really making a flying visit to Europe, as in very short!
IMHO Zurich is a great city. The airport is great for spotting with a great shopping centre downstairs at the railway station (I admit I haven't flown through ZRH for about 6 years and it's changed since then!... it's an airport I really miss). Zurich itself is a very pleasant and relatively compact city, with great transport (as is the norm in Switzerland). I've always found the people to be very friendly there. Just keep in mind it's quite an expensive place. And the lake is just beautiful, as are the many Swiss lakes. I believe night-life is quite good. Obviously, London being such a larger city, the light-life is much better, but I don't think you'll have too much time for that if I've understood properly (as in you arrive ad midday and return to the US the following morning?). As far as I'm concerned, and my apologies to any Londoners, as a city, I much prefer Zurich... maybe because it's less of a city, much more compact, and certainly much prettier... also you ahve a far greater chance of having good weather in Zurich than in London, yet one never knows. Anyway, enjoy your short trip to Europe.
AntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 324 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
I think Toulouse said quite everything you need to know.
Don't miss the Niederdorf/Oberdorf, there are a lot of narrow alleys to explore (with shops, restaurants, ...). BTW, I wouldn't call the Niederdorf a red light district - nevertheless, you'll find some "special" bars there as well.
If you have enough time and the weather is right and you want a bit of a "mountain feeling", I'd recommend you to go up to the "Üetliberg". You'll have a great view of the city, mountains and, last but not least, the airport (which is a bit in the distance though). There is a train running up there from the main station.
Good day to you sir! Please turn left, your seat is in the first row.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1761 times:
Thanks for all the help, everyone. True, I won't be able to spend much time in Europe. I'm mostly dictated by DL's flight schedules and which flights have open seats since I'm nonreving. Also, I couldn't get a substantial amount of time off work, and even if I could, the money I make this summer has to last me all school year and taking more days off would turn in to a serious pay reduction. From the sounds of things, though, there's plenty to keep me busy and I look forward (albeit a little nervous) to the new experiences that await me in Zurich and London!
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2733 posts, RR: 58 Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 10): From the sounds of things, though, there's plenty to keep me busy and I look forward (albeit a little nervous) to the new experiences that await me in Zurich and London!
Acey559, no need to be nervous... we don't bite here in Europe. Honestly though, travel is great. Just remember you're the visitor and it's you that should try to integrate and to respect local customs. Lots of things and the way things are done will seem very different to you from the way they're done back home, but don't complain about thatn just accept it as it is. I do understand your aprehension, whenever I leave Europe (or visit a European country I've never been to before, especially outside western Europe) I'm always a little aprehensive, but in the end have never had reason to do so.
Zurich and London are two VERY different cities and will give you a fairly good view of some of the major differences in Europe. London is very cosmopolitan and very big city, just like a lot of big cities anywhere in the world. Zurich is more Germanic, I would even go as far as to say, more "steretypically" European than London. So visiting Zurich and London will give you a good "indtroductory" insight to our continent, until your next visit.
So stop being nervous, make sure you have your camera betteries charged, try not to look to much like a tourist (that goes for any tourist in any large city anywhere in the world as you may just attract the attention of people you would prefer not to) and have a GREAT TIME. Enjoy the food in Zurich, I've always found it to be great. In London there is some great food also, but you'll have to pay a lot for it. And as a suggestion if I may, and if you're butget allows you, avoid eating in places such as Mac Donalds, what I mean is, it's your first time in Europe, you're here for a very short-time, so look for restaurants where locals eat, it's usually the best way for getting some sort of real feeling of the place you're visiting.
I look forward to reading a TR, you will do one for us, won't you?
Helvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1707 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 5): I'll be in Zurich on Friday, so does that count as a weekend? If so, what is the nacht zuschlag you speak of?
If you are in Zürich on a friday then the trains and buses run after midnight (a lot of the bars are open till 4 am) and the night buses and trains (in your case the SN5 will take you to Rümlang leaving the HB at 4 minutes past the hour all night) carry a 5 franc supplement. You need to buy this, just type *162 into any ticket machine, or you will get hit with an 80 franc fine.
One thing to watch for, most of the S bahn trains go from platforms 21-24 on the lower level of the HB. Just follow the signs and you should be OK.
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 5): And when you say that part of Zurich is red light, is it like Amsterdam?
Not really, the red light area of Amsterdam is pretty unique. I probably overstated it a bit calling Niederdorf red light, there are a few "special" bars and the odd street lady of negotiable friendship in the back streets but it's not like the Langstrasse and certainly not like Amsterdam. Zürich is a very safe city, you should have no problems.
I would certainly recommend Uetliberg, you can climb the tower and this gives you a superb view of the city. Also try a lake boat ride, a very nice way to pass the time. You get the boats from Burkliplatz, take tram 11 from the HB. If you're lucky you'll get the paddle steamer.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1611 times:
Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 13): Just to make it clear, you need that 5 francs "Nachtzuschlag" additionally to your normal ticket.
Thanks, I was a little unclear on that. Additionally, what is the 9 uhr pass? Is that something I need to have, or is it just something I need to have if I want to go out at night? Thanks for putting up with all my questions, I just want to make sure I have somewhat of an idea when I get over there so I'm not so overwhelmed. Thanks again!
The 9-Uhr-Pass is a ticket valid from 9am to 9pm (afaik) in the whole Canton of Zürich, however, if you only stay in the city, you can simply buy a return ticket from Rümlang and it'll be valid on all Trams and Buses in the city aswell as trains within the city, and it'll be valid for 24 hours, so you should be fine. The 9uhr pass really is only worth it if you're planning to travel out of the city. If you'll get back after 00:30am, you'll have to buy the CHF5 supplement.
Standby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
Terminal B - Observation Deck
Quoting Acey559 (Thread starter): My flight arrives at 8:30 or 9:00 in the morning and I can't check into my hotel until noon, so I've got a little time to kill.
Acey559 - let me promise you this:
Once you've stored your Checked luggage, got up on the Observation Deck, gone on the Airport Tour (1.5 hours) at the end of the Observation Deck (definitely worth it IMO) or taken the Bus to "Mid-Term", you will NOT be checking into your hotel at Noon.
No way - you'll like it so much, you won't be leaving the Observation Deck until 1400hrs at least.
Enjoy and let us know how it went.
PS. Pray for good weather and if you find a Swiss woman who's father works for Credit Suisse or UBS - Marry her.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
Thanks for all the help guys, you've really put my mind at ease and I'm actually beginning to think I can handle this! I read an article in Airliners Magazine about ZRH, and it looks really cool. I can't wait to blow a whole paycheck at the airplane hobby shop and take a TON of pictures! And Standby, I'll definitely be on the lookout for a girl and who knows, maybe she'll want to come home with me Anyway, again, thanks for all the help and I look forward to my trip. I'll take tons of pictures and I'll make sure to post a full report!
Standby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1493 times:
Good luck with the women mate - because I haven't had any in 6 years.
But don't tell my wife!
Oh - and don't forget to ask for a Stamp in your Passport in and out: see if the Immigration Officer makes their old joke of "10 dollars please". It's a myth that the Swiss have no sense of humour, they have a very wry sense IMO.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23221 posts, RR: 23 Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1456 times:
Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 16): Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 15):
The 9-Uhr-Pass is a ticket valid from 9am to 9pm (afaik) in the whole Canton of Zï¿½rich
Not quite correct. It's valid Monday-Friday after 9am until the end of service that night, e.g. midnight or 1am or whatever time the last bus/tram/train operates. On Saturday and Sunday it's valid all day, not only after 9am. The ZRH transit system has an English website with all the relevant information. http://www.vbz.ch/vbz_opencms/opencms/vbz/english/
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
Thanks guys! I've been doing a lot of reading on the above web sites and feel that I have a pretty good understanding of how everything works now. I also just found out not too long ago that my friend is going to come with me now, which will be nice to have someone there with me so we can figure things out together. And Standby, you're secret safe with me.
AntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 324 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 20): Not quite correct. It's valid Monday-Friday after 9am until the end of service that night, e.g. midnight or 1am or whatever time the last bus/tram/train operates. On Saturday and Sunday it's valid all day, not only after 9am. The ZRH transit system has an English website with all the relevant information. http://www.vbz.ch/vbz_opencms/opencm...lish/
I apologize, you're right, I somehow messed up with the Gleis 7, sorry about.
Good day to you sir! Please turn left, your seat is in the first row.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1453 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1312 times:
Well, I've got some pretty decent news. My friend decided that he's going to go with me, so at least I'll have someone there to blame if we get lost. He's also been to Europe before, so he should be of some help. Thanks again for everything, I really appreciate it!
ZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5563 posts, RR: 38 Reply 25, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1272 times:
Quoting Acey559 (Reply 24): Well, I've got some pretty decent news. My friend decided that he's going to go with me, so at least I'll have someone there to blame if we get lost. He's also been to Europe before, so he should be of some help.
No panic, you wont get lost. Most people here in Zurich know English (at least a bit) and it is a friendly, safe city. I hope you will have a good time. If you want to have more advice or help please write me a message here. Depending on when you are here I would be glad to show you the city (on August 16 I'll be here, don't hesitate). When you write me an airliners.net message I will give you my email and cell phone.