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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

I was wondering, with the new serivce to KFAT with ExpressJet (XE), are they qualified with the CAT III program like QX? I believe that QX does have the program to land in the fog. Will XE have the same pogram to stop delays and cancilations into FAT?

I was wondering this due to the aircraft being very knew and if they were outfitted with these. Because of XE flying for COex and DLc before, they really didnt seem to need it on those routes. But now with flying to BFL, SMF, FAT, they might be needing some of these pograms to keep those flights going. Does anyone have any information?


Thanks!

Kyle
QXatFAT

Edit: Title

[Edited 2007-08-02 07:16:35]

[Edited 2007-08-02 07:21:54]


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Hi Kyle.

I think XE will have that certification too!!! That's a good point indeed because fog at FAT can be really a pain. I remember seeing fog some days in a row there and I'm sure XE was aware of that!
Regards


User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

While reading the thread I remember years ago when United flew the milk run through the Central Valley with 737s, that during the winter month when the fog was dense and low, often the pilots would circle the airports after failed attempts to land making a few tries at it.

User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

XJET is certified for CAT II ops. I don´t think the E145 is capable of CAT III ops as equipped.
Perhaps the Legacy is capable.


User currently offlineOldProfessor From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

XE is only CAT II and I have not heard any rumors about upgrading to CAT III

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

ExpressJet is CAT II certified, and we do it often enough in IAH. I haven't heard any plans of CAT III certification.

User currently offlineDrewwright From United States of America, joined May 2001, 621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

XJT is CAT II certified. I just wanted to clear up any confusion on that subject, in case someone didn't read the last three posts.

User currently offlineIADCRJ From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

When did Express Jet commence service into FAT?

User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting IADCRJ (Reply 7):
When did Express Jet commence service into FAT?

XE started service to FAT back in April/May. They have the service to SAN and ONT.

Quoting OldProfessor (Reply 4):
XE is only CAT II and I have not heard any rumors about upgrading to CAT III

IMO, XE almost would need to become CAT III certified if it does not want to cancil flights into the valley. QX was very smart it doing this. When you have 4 flights a day into FAT and 4 flights out, same with BFL, and then have multiple a day out of SMF, you almost need this I believe in order to keep up the operation as a LCC. You just can not afford to cancil flights.



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User currently offlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

XE's schedule as is will most likely beat the fog on most nights for their inbound from ONT. From my experience, the RON's that arrive after 10pm are more likely to face diversion. I feel for Mexicana and their redeye to GDL. That said, knowing how the fog can mess up Skywest and Eagle and their LAX operation big time due to fog in the Valley, I'd hope XE understands the competitive advantage they could gain from having CAT III...or smart scheduling to strengthen their position in FAT...and to protect the integrity of their other routes that begin the day in FAT or BFL.

Doesn't the early morning FAT-ONT then head off to COS? If I were XE, I'd consider keeping the intra-state flights to 145's that bounce back 'n forth between the fog bound cities in California. Try to explain to a passenger in ONT that their flight to COS is sitting on the gound at FAT due to fog - trust me, I've been there - it just doesn't sell with passengers.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 9):
I'd consider keeping the intra-state flights to 145's that bounce back 'n forth between the fog bound cities in California.

I agree 100%! It would make a lot of sense keeping them here. I know that the morning BFL flight that goes to SAN turns around and goes to FAT. That is the only flight I know that stays in the valley. Sometimes the fog here at FAT will even loom around all day long.

Does anyone have an idea how much it would cost the airline to have themselves become CAT III certified?



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User currently offlineSea2Pdx From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Gotta love the feeling of seeing numerous "Cancelled"s up on the FIDs after Skywest and Mesa flights and "On-Time" after QX. We get the same thing in EUG. There are mornings where we'll walk in and we're the only ones with aircraft on the ground.

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