FLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7175 times:
Quoting AA787823 (Reply 2): Too bad you cant buy tickets on those. Even ID/ZED ticketing is not allowed. Bummer!
Last year I was routed LAX-JFK-LHR with QF, then AA... Of course I was traveling with a relative employed by Qantas based in Sydney which allowed us on the LAX-JFK.. The service reminded me of what travelling in the US used to be like. A 747 on a Trans-Con, Free Hot Meal, Free Alcoholic Beverages, and Free Video/Audio.. Did I mention Customer Service?
AirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6820 times:
I miss flying UA 747's between EWR/JFK and SFO/LAX. UA flew 747's and DC-10's on the transcon flights during much of the 70's and 80's. I was a monthly regular after my parents split up and I had to use employee/dependent passes to visit the parent living on the opposite coast from where I was living. I mostly flew on UA 35 EWR-SFO (747) which left EWR @ 10am and UA 34 SFO-EWR (DC-10/747) which left SFO @ 2pm. I also flew on UA 22 SFO-JFK (747) -which left SFO @ 8am and UA 29 (747) which left JFK @ 6pm quite a bit around 1979/1980. Back then UA offered Ocean to Ocean service on the transcons. Dinner in coach often included baby shrimp cocktail as an appetizer and steak and shrimp as a dinner option.
I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....
Charles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6799 times:
I remember flying Tower Air JFK-SJU back in '99, my first experience in a 747 ( a 742 if memory serves me right). The next four years I would the same route about 10 times on B6. I love Airbus and their A320, but there's something about flying in a heavy...
More recently, though, I flew LAX-Dulles on a UA 772. I've learned since that UA sometimes flies the 772s LAX-DEN as well (for positioning I believe), and DL flies 772 LAX-ATL. Ok, the 772 is substantially smaller than a 747, but it's basically the same concept (one of the largest planes in the fleet doing domestic routes).
Quoting AirlineBrat (Reply 7): Dinner in coach often included baby shrimp cocktail as an appetizer and steak and shrimp as a dinner option.
Ok, maybe the "dinner" service has been downgraded a bit (hint: sarcasm!).
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6678 times:
The date of this post is ironic to me - today, August 2, 2007, is the twenty year anniversary of my first 747 flight, TWA flight #840 LAX-JFK.
I was 21, and other than a short hop from BFL to SBA and back on United (737-200 and 727-100), it was my first major plane trip since I was eight.
The flight was selected specifically because it was a 747.
At that time, the only two airlines flying LAX to JFK with 747's were TWA and Pan Am. If the flip of the coin had been different, it would have been a Pan Am 747 we flew.
My travel agent (and very dear friend) would not let us return on TWA or Pan Am from JFK due to the fact that the westbound flights were always incoming from Europe and could be subject to horrendous delays. We instead returned on United from Newark on a DC-10.
On a side (and very somber) note, in 1996 I started noting the registration of every plane I fly on. I will always wonder if I flew on N93119 and/or N1819U on that uneventful trip.
Pan Am:The World's Most Experienced Airline - P(oor) S(ailor's) A(irline): San Diego's Hometown Airline-Catch Our Smile!
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5392 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 19): But the CASM would be significantly reduced, which means greater profit potential at lower fares. Further, given the number of flights in the market, capacity is already there.
but the RASM falls faster than the CASM. If there was a limitless decrease in CASM without a loss of RASM, you'd see big airplanes on every route.
Just look at how both DL and B6 are doing at JFK since both have pulled back from their mutually destructive capacity growth.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25989 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5076 times:
Quoting Shane (Reply 17): How about a nice little 744 ride from SFO--YVR on QF? That's an international flight so you can actually buy that ticket, as far as I know...
Yes QF has had local traffic rights SFO-YVR since they started service to YVR in the 1950s, although in recent years it's only been a seasonal service (June-August...the last flight is August 12) and then for about 6 weeks during the Christmas period (December 16-January 27), 3 times a week. In the 1980s they also operated YVR-HNL with a 747 about twice a week.
Canadian carriers have also had 5th freedom local traffic rights HNL-SYD (and NAN-SYD) since 1949.
CI also operates a 747-400 JFK-ANC-TPE 4 times a week, but as with all foreign carriers they can't carry local traffic on the domestic sector JFK-ANC. ANC is mainly a fuel stop although they do sell ANC-TPE,. If not mistaken that's the only current transpacific passenger service from ANC now.