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CO Starts Cabin Upgrades On 752 Fleet.  
User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8950 times:

I got this bulletin today.

757-200 CABIN UPGRADE PROJECT


This bulletin describes the planned upgrades to the 757-200 passenger cabin.


Continental Airlines will modify its fleet of 757-200 aircraft to upgrade the passenger cabin. The project will start with A/C 130 in MCO in August 2007 and continue through October 2008 during heavy maintenance and special holds. Here is a summary of the planned changes:

· Seats

o All existing Economy seats will be removed and replaced with new BE Spectrum seats. The new seats will be reinstalled in the same location as the removed seats.

· In-Seat Power

o The KID In-Seat Power system, which is currently installed on all BusinessFirst seats and Economy seats forward of the exit row, will be extended to the entire Economy cabin. All passengers will have access to in-seat power.

o The AC Outlet Unit (ACOU) in the BusinessFirst seat will be removed and replaced with an outlet that is compatible with UK plugs.


· Passenger Entertainment System

o The Panasonic eFX Audio/Video On-Demand (AVOD) system, which is currently installed on all BusinessFirst seats, will be extended to the entire Economy cabin. All passengers will have access to AVOD.

o The existing Digital Audio Entertainment System (DAES) will be removed.

o Overhead monitors in the BusinessFirst cabin and in the front row of the Economy cabin will be removed and replaced with new overhead monitors. All remaining overhead monitors will be removed.

Ship 130 is scheduled in this Saturday, 08/05


Is it broke...? Yeah I'll fix it.
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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

As a f/a that works this aircraft a lot, I, and the rest of my colleagues, eagerly await the changes. It will make the 757 a little more manageable and bearable for the pond crossing.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8869 times:

Quoting MX757 (Thread starter):
BE Spectrum seats

what is that?


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8825 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 2):

what is that?

http://www.bespectrum.com/


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8802 times:

CO's doing this on the 75s, without any weight issues. Delta with your excellent 763 Coach IFE, (ptvs postponed for "weight reasons") are you listening?
-A



What now?
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

This is great news, looking forward to the introduction. I flew MCO-EWR in Business First in May and enjoyed the AVOD, glad to see it being installed in economy.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

Quoting MX757 (Thread starter):
August 2007 and continue through October 2008

Does this mean all aircraft will be done in Oct. 08? So if I were to, say, take a trip to London in July 08, I would most likely be on an AVOD equipped 757 (provided I was not on a 777)?


User currently offline737DAB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8662 times:

If I am flying to DUB at the end of November on a 757...what is the likelyhood that I will fly on one of these?


Nothing is certain.
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21516 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 8528 times:

Quoting 737DAB320 (Reply 7):
If I am flying to DUB at the end of November on a 757...what is the likelyhood that I will fly on one of these?

50/50. looks like they are doing about 3 a month, so by Nov, there will be 10-13, or about 1/4 of the fleet. with two flights (there and back), it makes it 35-50% chance you'd be on one at least once.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8410 times:

Hi!

Congratulations CO for that!!! That will bring a healthy competition for the portuguese market...has you know TP is phasing-out their A310-300's from November on ( arrival of the first factory fresh A330-200...) so all long-haul flights, including EWR will be operated by the A330-200, so CO can directly compete with TP with that new upgrade. The rest I think is very good, meal service and crew response.....my guess is that US might need to upgrade their service too from LIS or make huge discounts to have people flying from Portugal....we'll see!
Regards


User currently offlineBHD From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8387 times:

AVOD alone certainly makes the 752 a more attarctive option straight away for transatlantic. This will benefit BFS greatly with out only daily link to the states.

Wood


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21516 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8055 times:

Quoting BHD (Reply 10):
AVOD alone certainly makes the 752 a more attarctive option straight away for transatlantic.

The seats look a little thinner, too, so it may give 1/2 in more knee room. Plus less room under the seats taken by equipment, and 110V power in all seats, makes it a true international jet (even if it is a single aisle).



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User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8011 times:

Waitaminute... So what about that iPod integration upgrade they raved about last year? Which part of the fleet does that affect? And if they're removing most of the overhead monitors, will they have something similar to the 777s/767s where there'll be a single TV overhead of the aisle every few rows showing flight data? All-in-all, these upgrades seem pretty sweet and I hope they extend them to the rest of the long-haul/wide-body fleet in the near future.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21516 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7969 times:

Quoting ThePalauan (Reply 12):
And if they're removing most of the overhead monitors, will they have something similar to the 777s/767s where there'll be a single TV overhead of the aisle every few rows showing flight data?

I was confused by that too. No way they would put them in the aisle, so I guess they go away.

As for iPod kits, just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean it will or won't be equipped. But I do wonder if the Panasonic system they have already installed for AVOD can do the iPod, or only if the new systems they are putting into the 777 and 767 (and 787) can do it.



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User currently offlineEurohub From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7943 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
50/50. looks like they are doing about 3 a month, so by Nov, there will be 10-13, or about 1/4 of the fleet. with two flights (there and back), it makes it 35-50% chance you'd be on one at least once.

Surely is one quarter of the fleet is likely to be upgraded by the end of November, 737DAB320's chances of getting one is 1 in 4 - neither 50/50 nor 35-50% chance!  Wink



Forget A vs B - Give me E or BAe any day of the week!
User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7866 times:

Quoting Eurohub (Reply 14):
Surely is one quarter of the fleet is likely to be upgraded by the end of November, 737DAB320's chances of getting one is 1 in 4 - neither 50/50 nor 35-50% chance! Wink

Ah but presumably he's coming back from DUB also - so he would have two shots at it - a 50% chance  Smile


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7849 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
I was confused by that too. No way they would put them in the aisle, so I guess they go away.

Airshow will be available on each screen. No longer a need for overhead monitors with it being shown.



You can't cure stupid
User currently online1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6494 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7762 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 16):
Airshow will be available on each screen. No longer a need for overhead monitors with it being shown.

Will it be using Airshow or the Panasonic iXPLOR program? Ever since Delta installed the Panasonic eFX system on their aircraft, Airshow has been replaced by iXPLOR. I think it would make more sense to use iXPLOR as it is included as part of the eFX system. Airshow can work with IFE systems from any manufacturer, but is an integrated part of Rockwell Collins' TES series systems. I don't think that Thales currently offers their own moving map program, so if an airline were to choose Thales IFE, then Airshow would be the only option for a moving map.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

Its a good thing CO is finally giving the passenger cabin upgrades to the 752 in coach. I just flew EWR-LAX and SFO-EWR with the old seats (installed mid 1990s) and found them to be very uncomfortable.


"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently offlineFllcontinental From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 5931 times:

I was looking at the seats on www.bespectrum.com and I was wondering, in all the pictures on the site the seats are a shade of red. Does this mean the new CO seats will be red or is the color there to make the seat seem more appealing?

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 5896 times:

Quoting Fllcontinental (Reply 19):
Does this mean the new CO seats will be red or is the color there to make the seat seem more appealing?

The red leather is their demonstrater model; CO can specify whatever fabric it wants to cover the new seats, I assume it will be the standard CO ble/gray fabric that is seen thoughout the fleet on Y class seats?


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 5878 times:

Quoting BHD (Reply 10):
AVOD alone certainly makes the 752 a more attarctive option straight away for transatlantic. This will benefit BFS greatly with out only daily link to the states.

With EI moving into BFS, CO might have some competition across the Atlantic coming soon!


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 5742 times:

This can't happen soon enough!

Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 21):
With EI moving into BFS, CO might have some competition across the Atlantic coming soon!

CO are certainly operating very busy from BFS just now though, overbooked on a regular basis. If I remember rightly EWR-BFS tonight is overbooked by 12!


User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 22):
Quoting COEI2007 (Reply 21):
With EI moving into BFS, CO might have some competition across the Atlantic coming soon!

CO are certainly operating very busy from BFS just now though, overbooked on a regular basis. If I remember rightly EWR-BFS tonight is overbooked by 12!

Yeah, I remember BFS flights do very well. Flights ex EWR are regularly overbooked by 12 and more, but i'm sure there will be a few no-shows.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 17):
Panasonic iXPLOR program? Ever since Delta installed the Panasonic eFX system on their aircraft, Airshow has been replaced by iXPLOR. I think it would make more sense to use iXPLOR as it is included as part of the eFX system. Airshow can work with IFE systems from any manufacturer, but is an integrated part of Rockwell Collins' TES series systems. I don't think that Thales currently offers their own moving map program, so if an airline were to choose Thales IFE, then Airshow would be the only option for a moving map.

I used Airshow as a generic term (I know that Airshow is an actual product) like band-aid or kleenex. The current system is the iXPLOR and has route information through the eFX system. It will be what is used for the 757 upgrade as it is currently used for all 41 ships (all 757-200).



You can't cure stupid
25 1337Delta764 : That's okay. I usually generically refer such systems as a "moving map" system.
26 COGlobeTrotter : 777 are getting AVOD throughout the entire fleet as well.
27 737DAB320 : hmm...I am actually coming back from ATH on a 767-200. Going around europe for three weeks visiting a bunch of cities! I hope I am on one of the newl
28 Max Q : I hope they are not the leather shown. That does not work in an aircraft!
29 Vasu : Nah, definitely don't think CO would go for that.
30 Baw716 : To the best of my knowledge, COs fleet does not have leather seats anywhere else; so I doubt you will see leather on the 757s; although more carriers
31 Max Q : As someone who spends a lot of time in both ends of a CO 75 I sincerely hope the new seats do not have that awful feature where the seat pan moves for
32 JamesJimlb : cant wait to fly one, going to lax in december on a 757-200 with CO, and i sure hope i get an upgraded one.
33 AirTranTUS : With the same new seats, or just upgrading the existing PTV's? So, after the 757's, are the 737NG's next? Will the 739ER's come with this?
34 Cory6188 : As long as the person in front of you reclines as well (which, in my experience, occurs more often than not), the amount of legroom you have shouldn'
35 NorthstarBoy : i guess the thing that remains to be seen is, will the new seats actually be comfortable? if they're 1/2 inch thinner, that would assumably mean 1/2 i
36 Vasu : You're kidding... that's a great feature! Improves "reclining courtesy" to the person behind!
37 Post contains links CF-CPI : Can anyone associated with the CO refit project tell me which seat cover style was selected? The BE link below shows the five choices: http://www.besp
38 Cory6188 : Guarantee they probably picked something boring like A or B...
39 Cgnnrw : I flew CGN-EWR two weeks ago and returned this morning. It was my first trans-Atlantic in a single aisle and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
40 WorldTraveler : It's a much more fuel efficient 707... I can still remember flying 707s over the Atlantic. no AVOD but the seats were alot further apart.
41 Post contains images Dutchjet : The 757 is fine for transatlantic flights.....comfort is much more dependent upon individual space, service and IFE than the actual size of the airpl
42 Cgnnrw : Hi neighbor! Both flights were quite full in econ and biz class. On the outbound flight I think biz was full and there were only about 3 or 4 empty s
43 WorldTraveler : thanks, Dutch. You'll have an invite to the party later today!
44 Ikramerica : Not at all. Airline seats form the past were built on metal frames, which were then shrouded in a hamoc/sling fabric, then a cushion applied to it, b
45 ADXMatt : The AVOD digital system is 400# lighter then the old system. One of many reasons you will see these on more a/c .
46 Dutchjet : And the AVOD system allowed CO to dump the old video closet on the 752 (by door 2L) and add back three extra coach seats.
47 Ikramerica : I'd also bet the new seats are lighter than the old, so the added weight of the LCD screens (which are now under a pound all in) doesn't hurt either.
48 N270ft : I think that this is a very smart move by CO, their 757 transatlantic product will be very similar to DL's when the ex-TWA 57's come online. I do agre
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