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User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

I've heard that United will begin serving many new European destinations. Among my interest of those is STR. Does anyone know when this service will begin? What US destination will it be serving? What equipment is being used? What is the frequency? Thanks!

-Alitalia777

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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

News to me........and with what airplanes? My understanding is that UA is not looking at expanding on transatlantic routes and will focus on Asia. As for airplanes, UA has nothing on order at the moment and its my understanding that their longhaul fleet is currently being used to its limit. Where did you hear this rumor?

By the way, there is a very credible rumor that STR is on CO's short list of possible new European destinations...if that service is launched, it would be EWR-STR with a 752 operating daily in the summer and 5X per week in the winter.


User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.

-Alitalia777


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 2):
This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.

Really, could it have something to do with service offered by LH with whom UA works very closely on transatlantic services? Otherwise, I really have no idea.


User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

UA codeshares with at least LH and SK into STR, so maybe this is an expansion of Star codeshares? I doubt UA would dedicate even a 767-300ER to STR given the other options.

User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

Does/Is LH offering direct service to the US from STR? If so, to where? What is the aircraft, and what is the frequency?

-Alitalia777


User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

Nope, LH does not fly across the pond from STR. Only DL offers flights across the Atlantic from ATL. I don't really see UA starting any service to STR. If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?) or LH offering service to DTW on a BBJ.

User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...

User currently offlineAlitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 7):
it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...

That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?

-Alitalia777


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 8):

That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?

-Alitalia777

Key word: codeshares. UA and LH work very closely on transatlantic service.


User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:11:24]

User currently offlineFLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10):
I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

What could United Airlines serve it with, seeing as that its fleet for the most part is maxed out..

I have a feeling that a route such as IAD-DME with a 767-300 would be higher yielding and of higher demand than TXL..

-JD


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2720 times:

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10):
I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:11:24]

Consider that LH flew IAD-TXL a few years back with an A343.......wrong plane, wrong route, impossible yields and LH quickly cut the route. Its a money loser. IAD-TXL is one of those routes that sounds good and is very promising ""on paper"", but just doesnt work in the real world. Odd, isnt it?

[Edited 2007-08-05 18:54:54]

User currently offlineUsa4624 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Back in 2001, United had an DUS - IAD - ORD flight. It was cut back to DUS - IAD in 2002, and eliminated later the same year. When I flew this route, it was a 767-300.

White IAD - DUS seemed unusual, IAD - STR makes a little more sense.

Personally, I wouldn't mind a direct US to STR connection other than Delta's, but that's another story.


User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2640 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 6):
If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?)

According to Google Earth, the runway is over 10,000 feet and the terrain slopes down to the east. To the west about 2.75 miles west, the height is about 350 higher than the runway. Is this a problem or are there other obsticles other than terrain to the east of west of the airport?

There appears to be a 1,000 foot displaced threshold on the west end of the runway.

FYI, EWR-STR is only 44 miles shorter than EWR-TXL.

[Edited 2007-08-06 06:48:07]

User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

UA are unlikely to open up any new routes in the forseeable future to Europe save for DEN - LHR, firstly because they see more demand elswhere such as Asia, secondly they simply dont have the metal to undertake any new routes and lastly if the were tp open up a new route it will more than likely be to a Star Hub in Europe where they can utilize the feed.

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