Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3040 times:
I've heard that United will begin serving many new European destinations. Among my interest of those is STR. Does anyone know when this service will begin? What US destination will it be serving? What equipment is being used? What is the frequency? Thanks!
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3012 times:
News to me........and with what airplanes? My understanding is that UA is not looking at expanding on transatlantic routes and will focus on Asia. As for airplanes, UA has nothing on order at the moment and its my understanding that their longhaul fleet is currently being used to its limit. Where did you hear this rumor?
By the way, there is a very credible rumor that STR is on CO's short list of possible new European destinations...if that service is launched, it would be EWR-STR with a 752 operating daily in the summer and 5X per week in the winter.
Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2950 times:
This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2947 times:
Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 2): This is something that I received from United regarding my Mileage Plus summary.
Really, could it have something to do with service offered by LH with whom UA works very closely on transatlantic services? Otherwise, I really have no idea.
PHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2820 times:
UA codeshares with at least LH and SK into STR, so maybe this is an expansion of Star codeshares? I doubt UA would dedicate even a 767-300ER to STR given the other options.
Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
Does/Is LH offering direct service to the US from STR? If so, to where? What is the aircraft, and what is the frequency?
LHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 553 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2606 times:
Nope, LH does not fly across the pond from STR. Only DL offers flights across the Atlantic from ATL. I don't really see UA starting any service to STR. If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?) or LH offering service to DTW on a BBJ.
LH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2387 times:
it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...
Alitalia777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2352 times:
Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 7): it prob had to do with hte new UA vacations destinations, via codeshares...
That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
Quoting Alitalia777 (Reply 8):
That's exactly it! Does this just mean that they are offering vacations to this destination, but not actually direct flights?
-Alitalia777
Key word: codeshares. UA and LH work very closely on transatlantic service.
IADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 669 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2240 times:
I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.
FLYGUY767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2212 times:
Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10): I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.
What could United Airlines serve it with, seeing as that its fleet for the most part is maxed out..
I have a feeling that a route such as IAD-DME with a 767-300 would be higher yielding and of higher demand than TXL..
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2166 times:
Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10): I have heard bits and pieces about this recently from contacts in Germany. I was hoping though that it would be TXL-IAD instead. TXL-IAD is a glaring ommission in UAs strategy for capital to capital service.
[Edited 2007-08-05 18:11:24]
Consider that LH flew IAD-TXL a few years back with an A343.......wrong plane, wrong route, impossible yields and LH quickly cut the route. Its a money loser. IAD-TXL is one of those routes that sounds good and is very promising ""on paper"", but just doesnt work in the real world. Odd, isnt it?
Usa4624 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 260 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1320 times:
Back in 2001, United had an DUS - IAD - ORD flight. It was cut back to DUS - IAD in 2002, and eliminated later the same year. When I flew this route, it was a 767-300.
White IAD - DUS seemed unusual, IAD - STR makes a little more sense.
Personally, I wouldn't mind a direct US to STR connection other than Delta's, but that's another story.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2204 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1283 times:
Quoting LHUSA (Reply 6): If anyone would, I would expect CO with a 757 (although, aren't there runway/terrain problems at STR?)
According to Google Earth, the runway is over 10,000 feet and the terrain slopes down to the east. To the west about 2.75 miles west, the height is about 350 higher than the runway. Is this a problem or are there other obsticles other than terrain to the east of west of the airport?
There appears to be a 1,000 foot displaced threshold on the west end of the runway.
FYI, EWR-STR is only 44 miles shorter than EWR-TXL.
UAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3355 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
UA are unlikely to open up any new routes in the forseeable future to Europe save for DEN - LHR, firstly because they see more demand elswhere such as Asia, secondly they simply dont have the metal to undertake any new routes and lastly if the were tp open up a new route it will more than likely be to a Star Hub in Europe where they can utilize the feed.
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