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Why Didn't CO Buy The 763  
User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

CO has the 762 (still) and the 764, so why didn't they order the 763? It seems like a plane they would have wanted

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20789 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

This is a good place to start looking for answers:

Why No 763s For Continental? (by LY777 Jul 11 2006 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4707 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Thread starter):
why didn't they order the 763?

Actually, to be technical, they did order the 763, they just never took delivery of them.

DL now has possession of one of these aircraft. This was a CO ordered plane b/c of the -324 designation:


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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23226 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4675 times:

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 2):
DL now has possession of this aircraft.

And here are the other 4 767-324ERs...


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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4613 times:

CO did order the 767-300ER, as noted, but the 1993 bankruptcy filing all but killed the chance of any entering the fleet. It would have been a good fit too, with strong benefits over both the -200/400 in terms of payload and range.

Quoting DL767captain (Thread starter):
CO has the 762 (still)

The first 767-224ER to join the fleet was a new-build in 2000.

They are not old by any stretch of the imagination, contrary to what your parenthesized comment implies.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

Anyone know how the ex-CO 767 is configured, since it has one overwing exit? Is it similar inside to the ex-Gulf Air 767s? (also one emergency exit overwing, at row 20.)
-A



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Quoting 777gk (Reply 4):
The first 767-224ER to join the fleet was a new-build in 2000.

They are not old by any stretch of the imagination, contrary to what your parenthesized comment implies.

Absolutely.

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 5):
Anyone know how the ex-CO 767 is configured, since it has one overwing exit?

Not sure there was ever any build with a CO configuration so they really wouldn't be ex-CO aircraft if my thought is correct.



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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

I have a fleet book called Airline Fleets 95 published by Air Britain.

It showed 12 767-324ERs on order for Continental. The first three registrations were supposed to be:

N48901
N58902
N68903


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5203 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

Wasn't there a rumor awhile back of them picking up some 763 leases? But then the 787 came along. Again, not sure if there was any substance to that rumor.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Thread starter):
CO has the 762 (still)

As mentioned CO's 767-200s are new builds, the oldest are from 2000 (seven years old). They have the 777 style interiors, and are a vast improvement over the 767-200s AA (still), DL and UAL used to fly.

As for not again ordering the 767-300 during the late Ninties, CO felt the 767-200 and 767-400 covered routes better.



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User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3462 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4108 times:
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Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 7):
N48901
N58902
N68903

Bet those will now be the first three 787s...



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 6):
Not sure there was ever any build with a CO configuration so they really wouldn't be ex-CO aircraft if my thought is correct

Its funny, a friend flew on a 767-324ER in service for Vietnam Airlines and said that the interior was done with all CO fittings including seats upholstered in the CO blue/gray fabric that we all know and love. CO did not take delivery of the airplanes (5 were built, as pointed out above, the balance of the order was never manufactured) but those 5 767-324ERs were very much CO airplanes.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 7):
It showed 12 767-324ERs on order for Continental. The first three registrations were supposed to be:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that CO ordered 10 763s with 5 built and 5 cancelled.....12 is a new number for me. Anyone have any further info on this bit of trivia?

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 8):
Wasn't there a rumor awhile back of them picking up some 763 leases?

Yes, there was......it seems that CO did take a look at what was available and passed (thats what I heard); remember, CO has a very young 767 fleet and any 767s that would be available on the second hand market would probably be older and less capable airplanes.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 9):
As for not again ordering the 767-300 during the late Ninties, CO felt the 767-200 and 767-400 covered routes better.

CO ordered the 762ER as its business jet.....an airplane for longer thin routes where yeilds are high and premium demand is stronger than average. CO's 762ERs are great airplanes, are extremely comfortable and a pleasure to fly in.....was it the best choice? It was a good choice at the time and CO, of course, had no idea that fuel prices would skyrocket. For now, they serve their missions very well, are not going anywhere for the time being, and eventually will be replaced by 788s (probably after the first 20 or so 787 are delivered to CO........the first group of 787s will be used for expansion and new routes). The 762ERs will make teriffic freighters some day, rumor has it that CO has already received unsolicited offers for the 762ER fleet from more than one cargo carrier.

As for the 764ER, it does exactly what it was supposed to do: replace the DC-10-30.


User currently offlineTerminalc From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 11):
Its funny, a friend flew on a 767-324ER in service for Vietnam Airlines and said that the interior was done with all CO fittings including seats upholstered in the CO blue/gray fabric that we all know and love. CO did not take delivery of the airplanes (5 were built, as pointed out above, the balance of the order was never manufactured) but those 5 767-324ERs were very much CO airplanes.

Yes, exactly. I flew on several of them. The flashlights even said Continental & the exit signs had Exit/Salida. The biz section had the 1st generation BusinessFirst seats. They were quite comfy and I think more comfortable than VN's current business seats. Curiously, CO's current 767s are configured 2-1-2 in BF. Those 763s were 1-2-2.


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

The 10 767-200ER's Continental operates were delivered in 2000 and 2001. The -200ER line was reopened for Continental and these aircraft feature the 777 style interior.

User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting ContinentalEWR (Reply 13):
The -200ER line was reopened for Continental

The line was not reopened per se, but they just started making them (-200ERs) again. Theoretically I could go to Boeing and order the -200ER and the -400ER even though the only pax 767s that have been produced in recent years have been the -300ER. As long as the 767 line is open, all of the ER models (-200ER, -300ER, -400ER) are available, not to mention the -300F.



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User currently offlineThering From Brazil, joined Jun 2006, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

As everybody said above, they are very happy with their 762s and 764s, and didn't received the ordered 763s do to financial issues. We will never discover if they would be even more pleased if they were flying 763s today, but, I was wondering, since they are facing a international expansion, wouldn't be a nice shot for them lease some 763ERs today till they receive the 787s??? This planes aren't so difficult to find in the 2nd hand market as the 777s or A330/340s right? (See RG's/G3's situation) Of course they would not even get close to what 787s will in efficiency, but wouldn't be a solution for 2-3 years term?


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