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SQ 777s Clipped Wings At Changi  
User currently offlineGneissGuy From Singapore, joined Jul 2006, 200 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11398 times:

2 SQ 777s hit each other on the wings whilst taxiing in Changi on Saturday. Both planes suffered minor damage and passengers were put on other planes to Rome and Copenhagen.

See link: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...aporelocalnews/view/292335/1/.html

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User currently offlinePeh From Australia, joined Nov 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

Bugger. How long would an accident such as this keep the planes out of service? Anyone?


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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 10953 times:

isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10813 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must

It is. Raked wingtip and all.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

I was in Changi this past Monday and while taxiing on a 773, I though we came might close to clipping wings with another SQ 777. Maybe I thought about it too soon.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8994 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10699 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

They have had a number of their new aircraft in maintenance due to events on the ground, they have managed to get a few of them off the taxiways at SIN, I think one of them might have also hit a light pole during ground manoeuvring.

Not to say that any airline is immune from these sort of events, just that most of them are that minor they do not make the news.



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10640 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.

Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 3):
It is. Raked wingtip and all.

Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.

I'm going for a bike ride around Changi here later (does anyone else ever ride the road parallel to the Center runway? Great place to cycle!), will try to spot the aircraft at the SIA Engineering facilities if i can.



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10572 times:

Hey SQ 452,

I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.

Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.

Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.


User currently offlineHodja From Singapore, joined Apr 2004, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10314 times:
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Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.

And I was originally scheduled on the flight TO Copenhagen, but had to reschedule earlier this week.

Looking at http://cph.dk arrivals, it looks like the arrival in CPH yesterday was about 2-1/2 hr delayed. (usually SQ351/2 is very punctual)


User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9334 times:

Quoting Andrew (Reply 6):
Hey SQ 452,

I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.

Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.

Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.

Oh no kidding, it's a damn good ride on Changi Coast road isn't it? How is riding during the day on that road? Night time is when i like to ride, never any traffic and hardly any cars to deal with. You get Europe departures in the evening and riding when they are using the center runway the noise is exhilarating when they take off. I usually stop at the threshold too before turning around for the home stretch, or continuing to the East Coast bike trail.

As to seeing any of the planes involved, couldn't see anything during the ride (my guess is they are already in the SIA Engineering hangars 1 and 2 on the northern section of the airport. I did however see the A345 on night time training, it did a number of departures/landings (not touch and gos) on the Center runway. Definitely not a scheduled flight as the other 4 A345's are enroute to/from LAX and EWR during that time of night anyway.



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9115 times:

Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?

On that note, when will these birds be operational again?



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8990 times:

Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 9):
Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?

On that note, when will these birds be operational again?

One would think so, but there is plenty of "floor space" on the apron at Changi. This was a goof up on either ground control, the apron manager, or the ground/tow staff, not necessarily a lack of space. Heck, the airport is A380 ready...plenty of room to 'move around' on the apron.

I think SQ did consider the folding wings at one point way back when but decided against it (can anyone confirm this?)

The planes shouldn't be out of commission too long, depending on how the damage was, I'm guessing a couple weeks, maybe less.



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8879 times:

Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...

SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.

Good work SQ 2 1/2 hours is not a bad delay in my opinion given the circumstances

Leo



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User currently offlineFarzan From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4549 times:

Well that explain the late arrival into Copenhagen Saturday morning and my late departure from CPH to SIN. No explanation was given at CPH about the mishap.

User currently offlineTrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 3):
Raked wingtip and all.

Is it possible for these aircraft to fly without the raked tip attached? I know aircraft (A330, 744) with winglets can if need be.

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11):
Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...

I'm surprised it would take so long. Maybe just an over-night job? Take the damaged tip of and replace with a new one (if they carry them as spares of course).


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 5):
Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.

correct, thanks for the correction. Good that it isn't the 777-300ER

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Is there any photos?

Tom.



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User currently offlineSingaporeBoy From Singapore, joined May 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

But i am sure it would still disrupt the rotation of the the aircrafts especially if 2 of them are involved.The spare aircrafts would still be needed the next morning during th rush hour.If the damage can be repaired overnight then it wouldnt be much of a problem...but a few weeks would certainly affect the fleet especially now that SQ is facing an aircraft shortage.I wonder if any other flights using the 200ER are affected operationally wise.

User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11):
SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.

Having 68 777s in the fleet makes it affordable to stock ample and diverse spare parts.


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