GneissGuy From Singapore, joined Jul 2006, 199 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 10782 times:
2 SQ 777s hit each other on the wings whilst taxiing in Changi on Saturday. Both planes suffered minor damage and passengers were put on other planes to Rome and Copenhagen.
Norcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1277 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10197 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2): isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must
It is. Raked wingtip and all.
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2): Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.
I was in Changi this past Monday and while taxiing on a 773, I though we came might close to clipping wings with another SQ 777. Maybe I thought about it too soon.
Zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 7722 posts, RR: 73 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10083 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2): isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.
They have had a number of their new aircraft in maintenance due to events on the ground, they have managed to get a few of them off the taxiways at SIN, I think one of them might have also hit a light pole during ground manoeuvring.
Not to say that any airline is immune from these sort of events, just that most of them are that minor they do not make the news.
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SQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10024 times:
Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2): isn't Rome operated by the 777-300ER, must suck to have that plane damaged already.
Funny that, I just arrived from Copenhagen with SQ.
Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.
I'm going for a bike ride around Changi here later (does anyone else ever ride the road parallel to the Center runway? Great place to cycle!), will try to spot the aircraft at the SIA Engineering facilities if i can.
Andrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9956 times:
Hey SQ 452,
I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.
Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.
Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.
SQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8718 times:
I ride regularly on Changi Coast Road, in fact was just there today doing some laps (trying to get back into shape!). Also always stop at the fence near the threshold to watch the planes come and go before the home stretch.
Planes involved are 9V-SVG operating as SQ 366 SIN-FCO, and 9V-SVN operating as SQ 352 SIN-CPH. Both are 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892's.
Anyhow, it's a crying shame that this happened. You can be sure that an investigation has already begun and would involve the ground controller, the apron staff and the pilots.
Oh no kidding, it's a damn good ride on Changi Coast road isn't it? How is riding during the day on that road? Night time is when i like to ride, never any traffic and hardly any cars to deal with. You get Europe departures in the evening and riding when they are using the center runway the noise is exhilarating when they take off. I usually stop at the threshold too before turning around for the home stretch, or continuing to the East Coast bike trail.
As to seeing any of the planes involved, couldn't see anything during the ride (my guess is they are already in the SIA Engineering hangars 1 and 2 on the northern section of the airport. I did however see the A345 on night time training, it did a number of departures/landings (not touch and gos) on the Center runway. Definitely not a scheduled flight as the other 4 A345's are enroute to/from LAX and EWR during that time of night anyway.
JakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8499 times:
Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?
On that note, when will these birds be operational again?
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SQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8374 times:
Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 9): Maybe SQ should look into the folding wing concept for the triple 7?
On that note, when will these birds be operational again?
One would think so, but there is plenty of "floor space" on the apron at Changi. This was a goof up on either ground control, the apron manager, or the ground/tow staff, not necessarily a lack of space. Heck, the airport is A380 ready...plenty of room to 'move around' on the apron.
I think SQ did consider the folding wings at one point way back when but decided against it (can anyone confirm this?)
The planes shouldn't be out of commission too long, depending on how the damage was, I'm guessing a couple weeks, maybe less.
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1251 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8263 times:
Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...
SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.
Good work SQ 2 1/2 hours is not a bad delay in my opinion given the circumstances
Farzan From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3933 times:
Well that explain the late arrival into Copenhagen Saturday morning and my late departure from CPH to SIN. No explanation was given at CPH about the mishap.
Is it possible for these aircraft to fly without the raked tip attached? I know aircraft (A330, 744) with winglets can if need be.
Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11): Shoudlnt take more than a couple of weeks if it was just a minor clipping...
I'm surprised it would take so long. Maybe just an over-night job? Take the damaged tip of and replace with a new one (if they carry them as spares of course).
CXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 2694 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2092 times:
Quoting SQ452 (Reply 5): Rome is still operated with the 777-200ER aircraft. You're probably thinking of Milan which is operated with the 777-300ER on the days Rome flights are not operating.
correct, thanks for the correction. Good that it isn't the 777-300ER
SingaporeBoy From Singapore, joined May 2005, 139 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1294 times:
But i am sure it would still disrupt the rotation of the the aircrafts especially if 2 of them are involved.The spare aircrafts would still be needed the next morning during th rush hour.If the damage can be repaired overnight then it wouldnt be much of a problem...but a few weeks would certainly affect the fleet especially now that SQ is facing an aircraft shortage.I wonder if any other flights using the 200ER are affected operationally wise.
Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 66 Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1230 times:
Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 11): SQ really has a good number of spares allowing a great operational stability allowing quick re-scheduling after planes go tech.
Having 68 777s in the fleet makes it affordable to stock ample and diverse spare parts.
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