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Will UAL Go For Some B777-300ERs?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

I believe that UAL will definitely be going for some B 777-200ERs, B 777-300ERs. And of course, they will go for some B 747-400s.

The B 777-200/300 ERs can be used on their Transatlantic as well as internal routes.

What are your views on this?

 



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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

There is a slim chance...at least right now. Currently the only engine option is GE, and UA wants PW engines. So until they can get PW engines on them, they will not. I have my doubts that United will order more 747-400s. The truth is that the 777 is more versital, and much cheaper to operate. If they were to get more 747s, it would be the 747X to be used on flights where that extra capacity is needed.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

It would be sad if there isn't going to be anymore B 744s coming. That's an excellent aircraft.

Umm...... They might go for some in the future I think. But not for now.

But it seems that the B 744 is an important asset of UAL. I believe they will still be around for a very long time.





User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

I agree that they will not purchase the 777-300ER if it has only the GE90 available. Their entire fleet is P&W powered except the CFM56 powered 737-300/500s and a few CF6 powered DC-10s that will be retired soon.

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

One thing that I want to point out is that United loves their 747-400s, but more are not needed at the moment. what they need is a product that is larger than the 744, and the most logical choice would be the 747X. I can see United placing an order for 10 to 15 of those in the next year, and being the launch customer for that aircraft, to be used on the high density pacific runs.



User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3740 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1796 times:
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TEDSKI, the Airbus A320 at United is also a non PW powered aircraft. It has IAE engines. But you're right, when they order aircrafts from Boeing, they do specify PW engines.

United currently has over 40 747-400's, they'll definitely be around for at least 10 more years. It is possible that they order a few more of those if they add more transpacific routes from LAX and SFO. The last 100 was retired recently and the last 200 will also be retired soon, late 2001 at the latest.
It is also possible that they order more 777's to replace the last DC-10's and 747-200's. I think that the 777-300 would be the right replacement for the 747-200. United being the airline that launched the 777 10 years ago, I wouldn't be surprised if they go for the 777-300.

Happy holidays  ,

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



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User currently offlineJuul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

American 767:

Actually, UA's A320's are as close to a PW-powered aircraft in that category as you can get. They are IAE V2500 - powered, and this engine was developed by RR and, yes indeed, PW.

They do have quite a lot of CFM-powered 737's though.


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

I hope I am wrong on this, I am wondering if United after the Flt 232 accident which involved a GE CF6 decided from now on to purchase P&W or IAE engines on any new Boeing or Airbus aircraft they ordered.

User currently offlineAp305 From India, joined Jan 2000, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Engine choice is extremley important for an airline but not as important as the airframe.eg-Swissair chose RRpowered a340-600's despite it's strong tradition of ordering pratt products.If there is a case for the 777-300er at Ua they will most probably order it.Ua is extremley happy(or at least that's what i was told)with thier 772's so the 773 sipmly cant be ruled out based on engine choice.It all depends on how Ua can make the 773's economics work for them.

ap305


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

If Boeing were to offer the 777-300ER with a Pratt & Whitney "PW41115" engine right now, UA would snap up at least 15-20 planes in NO time.

UA needs the capacity to fly trans-Pacific flights, and their flights from SFO and LAX to NRT/HKG/PVG/PEK/SEL are always packed to the tilt most of the time. UA will likely use the 773ER to replace the 772ER on their second flights from SFO and LAX to NRT.

Anyway, with BA culling down their 744 fleet, maybe UA can buy a number of ex-BA 744's and have them rebuilt to UA standards?


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

If Boeing wants United and other P&W 777 operators to order the 777-200LR & 300ER they must break this exclusive engine deal with GE and offer a P&W 4000 series engine like the 4115.

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1739 times:

On the post by TEDSKI, anybody have any idea what the financial and legal consequences would be if Boeing were to call off the exclusivity deal with GE?

DeltaSFO



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User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Here is my theory, if Boeing stays with GE on the 777X models like Lockheed did on the L-1011 with the Rolls Royce RB211 and problems develop with the new 115,000lb thrust GE90 engine it will delay deliveries to customers.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Yet again the engine issue is brought up. United is not going to keep the 777-300LR out of the fleet due to it having GE-90 engines. It may not be what United truly wants, but it is not a deal breaker. As for United and the 747. I have heard from several sources that United is a prime candidate for the 747-400LR. With an initial order of 10-15 airframes. These would be used on trans-pacific routes. Also, with the -400LR entering the fleet, the -400s can be placed on higher capacity trans-atlantic runs. Basically, negating the need for the 777-300LR.


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User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

I just want to let everyone know that all of the 747-238s are gone, and have been replaced with 777s. The DC-10s are/have been replaced by 77Ds, and 76Ds. (D=Domestic).

Right now, you have to ask your self, what routess would they be used on? There arnt many. Atlantic flights are using 763s, and 777s, and the pacific flights are using 744s, and 777s.

I belive that UA will be the launch customer for the 747X in the next year, because they need that extra capacity, that the 74X offers.


User currently offlineCritter_592 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 1697 times:

Which 747X is being discussed here? Boeing has launched the 747-400LR, Qantas being the first customer with 6 orders I believe. Are we talking about the 747X Stretch (520 pax)?

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 1695 times:

The 744LR is different from the X stretch. The 747X seats 430 pax compared to 380 from the 744s.

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