ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
There is a slim chance...at least right now. Currently the only engine option is GE, and UA wants PW engines. So until they can get PW engines on them, they will not. I have my doubts that United will order more 747-400s. The truth is that the 777 is more versital, and much cheaper to operate. If they were to get more 747s, it would be the 747X to be used on flights where that extra capacity is needed.
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
I agree that they will not purchase the 777-300ER if it has only the GE90 available. Their entire fleet is P&W powered except the CFM56 powered 737-300/500s and a few CF6 powered DC-10s that will be retired soon.
ILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
One thing that I want to point out is that United loves their 747-400s, but more are not needed at the moment. what they need is a product that is larger than the 744, and the most logical choice would be the 747X. I can see United placing an order for 10 to 15 of those in the next year, and being the launch customer for that aircraft, to be used on the high density pacific runs.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3505 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1566 times:
TEDSKI, the Airbus A320 at United is also a non PW powered aircraft. It has IAE engines. But you're right, when they order aircrafts from Boeing, they do specify PW engines.
United currently has over 40 747-400's, they'll definitely be around for at least 10 more years. It is possible that they order a few more of those if they add more transpacific routes from LAX and SFO. The last 100 was retired recently and the last 200 will also be retired soon, late 2001 at the latest.
It is also possible that they order more 777's to replace the last DC-10's and 747-200's. I think that the 777-300 would be the right replacement for the 747-200. United being the airline that launched the 777 10 years ago, I wouldn't be surprised if they go for the 777-300.
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1543 times:
I hope I am wrong on this, I am wondering if United after the Flt 232 accident which involved a GE CF6 decided from now on to purchase P&W or IAE engines on any new Boeing or Airbus aircraft they ordered.
Ap305 From India, joined Jan 2000, 469 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
Engine choice is extremley important for an airline but not as important as the airframe.eg-Swissair chose RRpowered a340-600's despite it's strong tradition of ordering pratt products.If there is a case for the 777-300er at Ua they will most probably order it.Ua is extremley happy(or at least that's what i was told)with thier 772's so the 773 sipmly cant be ruled out based on engine choice.It all depends on how Ua can make the 773's economics work for them.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7860 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1526 times:
If Boeing were to offer the 777-300ER with a Pratt & Whitney "PW41115" engine right now, UA would snap up at least 15-20 planes in NO time.
UA needs the capacity to fly trans-Pacific flights, and their flights from SFO and LAX to NRT/HKG/PVG/PEK/SEL are always packed to the tilt most of the time. UA will likely use the 773ER to replace the 772ER on their second flights from SFO and LAX to NRT.
Anyway, with BA culling down their 744 fleet, maybe UA can buy a number of ex-BA 744's and have them rebuilt to UA standards?
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1504 times:
Here is my theory, if Boeing stays with GE on the 777X models like Lockheed did on the L-1011 with the Rolls Royce RB211 and problems develop with the new 115,000lb thrust GE90 engine it will delay deliveries to customers.
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4434 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Yet again the engine issue is brought up. United is not going to keep the 777-300LR out of the fleet due to it having GE-90 engines. It may not be what United truly wants, but it is not a deal breaker. As for United and the 747. I have heard from several sources that United is a prime candidate for the 747-400LR. With an initial order of 10-15 airframes. These would be used on trans-pacific routes. Also, with the -400LR entering the fleet, the -400s can be placed on higher capacity trans-atlantic runs. Basically, negating the need for the 777-300LR.
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