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Turkish Airlines To Go On Strike  
User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5289 posts, RR: 15
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Sorry, only found it in Dutch.

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=21435

Quick translation.

12.500 employees of TK will vote before thursday afternoon to go on strike or not. It seems a wage problem. Union and management can't close a deal.

This will be a disaster in the middle of the holiday season with no additional capacity around.



Grote staking dreigt bij Turkish Airlines

06-08-2007

ANKARA - Zo’n 12.500 werknemers van Turkish Airlines stemmen deze week of ze gaan staken. Volgens de Turkse krant Hürriyet wordt donderdagmiddag (9 augustus) duidelijk of de werknemers van Turkish Airlines het werk neerleggen. De luchtvaartmaatschappij en vakbond Hava-Is zijn het nog niet eens geworden over een nieuwe cao.

De werknemers van Turkish zijn met name ontevreden over hun salaris. De staking zou voor Turkish Airlines op een uiterst ongelegen moment komen nu de vakantiepiek in volle gang is.

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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17141 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

I really hope that they not will go out in strike. My grandma will go from ARN to IST on 10th august.

Will this flight be affected if they go out in strike.



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26124 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

The strike situation is covered here;
Turkish Aviation August 2007 (by TK787 Aug 1 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Its still not clear if the union will really call the strike. This weeks vote is more of a strike authorization, howevver things are indeed coming down to the wire.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9724 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4434 times:

Seems to be a virus in the air.

LTU pilots voted to go on strike as well. If Turkish goes on strike, Ford in Cologne won't be able to start production after the summer holidays.

Which is not that bad, German Rail train drivers go on strike as well, meaning they don't get the part either.



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26124 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

By the way, results of the strike vote wont be know until after Thursday. Employees are voting for 4 days starting today.


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User currently offlineRobcol99 From Turkey, joined Jun 2004, 294 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

First of all, if the vote goes for "no", then the union cannot go to strike, and a final agreement will be decided by a panel of judges within 15 days.

If the vote goes for "yes", then the union reserves the right to go on strike, that still does not mean a strike will actually take place.

It's not primarily a wage dispute, especially for flight attendants and pilots. There are a whole lot of complicated stuff, but layover rest times, number of attendants assigned to flights, policy on last minute changes on the schedule are all on the table.


User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1831 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

TK is the best airline in terms of the work rules, pay, etc. in Turkey. Other 'compadres' in other airlines are much worse compared to TK. Yet again, i have friends that fly the brutal 5 on 2off type schedules.
TK cabin and flight crew need better rules than what they have today.. I just hope that other airlines will follow the suit, but management creates a very hostile environement when you try to bring union on board. Those who are familiar with will remember the experience of a pilot in SunExpress ; things were not that sunny for him after all..


PS: I am glaf that i am flying SEA-AMS-IST this time though



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17141 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Can someone confirm if my grandmas flight will be affected on Friday 10th august. The flight is from ARN to IST as TK 1794


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17141 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4267 times:

This info is from TKs webside.

An Important Notice from Turkish Airlines
25.07.2007

Because of the media attention given to the strike and lockout notifications exchanged between the union and Turkish Airlines, the need has arisen to inform our valued customers of the following:




The negotiations between Turkish Airlines management and the Hava-Is Union management have, as yet, been unsuccessful in reaching a new agreement. In accordance with labor law, the union gave a strike notice to Turkish Airlines on July 20, 2007. Similarly, in accordance with labor law, Turkish Airlines gave notice to the union that a strike would result in the imposition of a lockout.




At present, neither a strike nor lockout is definite. The strike notification is the union's official method to alert Turkish Airlines that it will exercise its right to strike if an agreement cannot be reached. While negotiations are continuing, all Turkish Airlines flights will operate as scheduled.




We will keep you advised of any further developments.



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User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks ago) and read 4246 times:

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 6):
TK is the best airline in terms of the work rules, pay, etc. in Turkey.

You are right, only for Turk, as you know not for all TK employee, the management in this company doesn't know what's the meaning of fair and respected to their oversea employee.
In term of the salary range (50-70% lower compare with Turk in the same position and doing same job), benefit (no benefit at all including no medical support) for the oversea local TK employee (especically for far east staff).
Can you believe TK paying 1 - 3 USD per day for allowance to their oversea staff duty in Istanbul?
Best???? you better tell your TK management to learn with EK, QR & CX, at least they are respecting and fair to each of their employee.

Cheers / N503JB



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