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What Happened To Eastern?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

Can anyone tell me what happened to Eastern Airlines? Are they winded up already?

Also, they did own a few B 747s in the past. True?

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User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Former EAL management people tried to revive the airline - with no success.

Yes, Eastern Airlines operated the B747. The airline had even originally ordered the B747 but decided to sell its four B747-125 positions to TWA. However, beginning at the end of 1970, Eastern leased three B747-121s from Pan American. These were aircraft N731PA, N735PA, and N737PA. All aircraft were returned to Pan American by spring 1972 at which time Eastern was receiving its first Lockheed L-1011 "Whisperliners".
The B747 leasing arrangement was made in order to protect Eastern's market share on major routes as Chicago-Miami, New York-Miami, and New York-San Juan. The decision to sell its B747-125 positions to TWA was based on the belief that the L-1011 would be better suited for Eastern's routes structure. Furthermore, Eastern Airlines tried to accomplish a fleet simplification with fewer different types of aircraft. In addition, the net loss in 1969 and the low earnings in 1970 may have influenced the decision (based on information from the foloowing source: G. W. Clearly "Eastern Air Lines - An Illustrated History").

Daniel



User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1384 times:

They've ordered the 747 but cancelled the order.
Two 747s were painted in Eastern colors and leased from PanAm in the mid 70'. Another 747 was bought from QANTAS and painted but was never delivered.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1378 times:

So is Eastern still around????

User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

>Former EAL management people tried to
>revive the airline - with no success.

Daniel


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24925 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

They were based at Atlanta? So did Delta take over a lot of their routes?


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User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

I understand that Eastern used the B747s on its major routes from Chicago and New York to Florida and Puerto Rico... I do not believe they were really "based" in ATL. What about maintenance etc.? I would guess these works were accomplished by the owner, Pan Am (i.e. New York or Miami?).

Daniel


User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1906 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Easterns Corp HQ was MIA, with a huge hub at ATL, significant ops at LGA, JFK, BOS,DCA. They also tried a mini hub at MCI in the mid 80's. Tremendous rivalry between DL & EA @ATL. Many routes were flown neck to neck , very competive.

Eastern tried to balance its heavy seasonal north-south flying with more trans -cons ops to LAX & SFO, but with limited success. Also tried "Moonlight Fares" on its A-300 fleet when it was being used heavily at night for cargo ops. Some success there, to a degree. Also EAl had severl great "all the cities you can fly to in a week or month "type fares.

Many things contributed to its demise, particulary Charlie Bryan And the IAM and Frank Lorenzo, the one time owner..Long,sad story.
Check out AirlinersOnline.com for some book selections for a more in-depth history.
Hope this helped


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3237 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1308 times:

Eastern's demise in 1991 was the end of a long, sad slide for an airline which was once America's largest. Poor management by Texas Air and difficult labour relations led to the crippling strike in 1989, which practically grounded the carrier for a year and caused it to give up many of its domestic and overseas routes (including the NE Shuttle, sold to Donald Trump, and service to the Caribbean, including POS). After the impasse ended the wounded airline was simply unable to properly re-establish itself, even under Chapter 11 protection and the oil price surge in 1990-1 proved fatal. January 18 1991 was the day that EA died and no attempt to restart it has been successful. DL and AA have been the airlines to benefit most from EA's fall.

Sad but true.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8002 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

What I find sad is that three major airlines--Braniff, Eastern and Pan American (I)--all died a very painful death.

I think in the case of Braniff and Eastern, poor management doomed the airline. Pan American (I) was made obselete because American, Delta, and United took advantage of their domestic flight routes to feed their international flights, especially after deregulation was signed into law in 1978.

It was only the extremely masterful management of one Gordon Bethune that saved Continental from a similar fate.


User currently offlineFrank Lorenzo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

Great Topic

-Frank Lorenzo


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