Af773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2578 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2101 times:
Since US took over America West, will the gate at concourse C at MSP that America West owns (gate C9?) be taken over by NW and US/America West flights will be at the E concourse? How did America West get a C gate at MSP?
Airbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 412 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
Well eventually theyll be moved over to Humphrey once the expansion is done.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2025 times:
I believe NW owns the gate just like the rest of the C gates but HP was granted access to it during specified time frames. I think MSP sees maybe 5 HP flights a day anyways, so owning a gate may not be a high priority thing anyways. In addition, if I'm not mistaken, HP uses NW ramp and mx at that airport, so using a C gate makes sense for NW operationally.
Flyswim From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
I just flew US out of MSP last week, all flights are now out of E. I think some ramp work last fall kept them separated, but definitely together now, which makes more sense. Check-in counters also just consolidated in the last few weeks.
USFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1788 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1925 times:
US mainly uses E2 & E4 now but they still use (and have counters and signage at) D1, D2, C9, C10, and C11 for their RONS and ad hoc during the day.
HPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3665 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1829 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 3): I think MSP sees maybe 5 HP flights a day anyways, so owning a gate may not be a high priority thing anyways. In addition, if I'm not mistaken, HP uses NW ramp and mx at that airport, so using a C gate makes sense for NW operationally.
5 flights a day I would think HP would fork out for a gate. And when I was in ramp training at ABQ, my roommate was hired for MSP ramp. So I don't believe they are ground handled by NW.
PremoBrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1800 times:
The ramp handling for the US Airways flights to the west were handled by company employess while the US Air flights to the east were handled by ATS. It's possible this has changed since the companies are now fully integrated.
US Airways uses gates E2, E4, C9 or C10, and D2. D1 is also used for an early morning departure.
Gate D2 has the US Airways name on the actual desk in the boarding area.
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1635 times:
Quoting Cactus742 (Reply 7): This is not an expert opinion at all, but my guess is that HP gained access to the C gate during the time that it had a codeshare with NW.
HP got a C Concourse gate way back in the 1980s when they first started service to MSP. There was a MSP air service study in the 1980s which basically showed that NW had too much control on the market and there were few new entrants.
In a diplomatic show of goodwill, NW gave up a gate to allow HP to enter the market. Of course, they didn't give up a their best gate, they gave up one of their worst gates. At that time it was at the very end of the Green Concourse, furthest away from the Main Terminal. The gate was leased, it was never owned by HP. I am not sure if they leased it from NW or the MAC. With the US/HP merger, US consolidated operations with the help of the MAC.
As others have pointed out, however, they use some D Concourse gates and C Concourse gates for RON flights. Other airlines (such as AA and UA) also use the D Concourse for RON flights. It works out because a large portion of NW aircraft RON away from MSP.
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SNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1543 times:
Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter): Since US took over America West, will the gate at concourse C at MSP that America West owns (gate C9?) be taken over by NW and US/America West flights will be at the E concourse? How did America West get a C gate at MSP?
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 2): That's where HP has always been. IIRC, US/HP have all of their service concentrated out of Concourse E now, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Jeremy
They do have C9. I think both NW and HP have it. But I rarely see a HP bird there, its always a NW bird going to Hardford CT, or Duluth. They usually come in the D.
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
NW owns all the gates on D, C, G, F, and even some of E.
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Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1322 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1395 times:
Checking the US Airways flight status for this morning's flights (Aug 9, 2007), the gates used were C9 (PHX), C10 (CLT), D1 (PHL), & E4 (LAS). E2 was not used.
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1374 times:
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 13): Checking the US Airways flight status for this morning's flights (Aug 9, 2007), the gates used were C9 (PHX), C10 (CLT), D1 (PHL), & E4 (LAS). E2 was not used.
I think the second flight to PHX is also a RON. It departed from gate E2.
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 12): NW owns all the gates on D, C, G, F, and even some of E.
Yes, they've got gates all over. But they are leased, not owned.
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Phatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1322 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1356 times:
Quoting Pilottim747 (Reply 14): I think the second flight to PHX is also a RON. It departed from gate E2.
I stand corrected. That is a very late RON if it is scheduled to leave at 11 am to PHX.
USFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1788 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 15): I stand corrected. That is a very late RON if it is scheduled to leave at 11 am to PHX.
Not really, it does not come in from LAS until 4AM.
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