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TWA L-1011 For Sale On EBay!  
User currently offlineLoserkid182 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11942 times:

Yup, believe it or not, an actual TWA L-1011-1 registered N31023 is for sale on eBay. And people are actually bidding on it!! Man wouldnt I love to have this one..hehehe..I guess I can always have my Gemini Jets L-1011  

Check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=529613792

Heres a pic of it:

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User currently offlineAccidentally From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11681 times:
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Holy crap...

I wonder what the reserve is...



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User currently offlineBrissie_lions From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11665 times:

I wonder if Ceilidh has placed his bid yet. Surely this would be a cheap way to get together his TriStars.

One thing I want to know is. The ad states:

"Buyer pays actual shipping charges, Will ship to United States only, See item description for shipping charges"

How much would USPS charge for you to mail a TriStar, and can they ensure overnight delivery? 


User currently offlineLoserkid182 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11632 times:

LOL Brissie lions

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11624 times:

Say, does anyone know if it would be technically possible to fit new engines to this bird?


"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
User currently offlineDeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11600 times:

I'm pretty sure modified Trent's can be fitted, Delta was going to do this to 13 L-1011s that were to be turned into freighters until someone became interested in them.

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11531 times:

Interesting.....

That BPI Aerospace is related to Ceilidh (Neil D. Robertson) in some regard. I just can't remember how...but there is a connection.

eBay regularly sells planes, but a L1011 has got to be the largest...


User currently offlineDatamanA340 From South Korea, joined Dec 2000, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11487 times:


Can it be paid by AMERICAN EXPRESS? By what level of credit? 


User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11488 times:

Allegedly, Mr. Robertson's virtual aircraft holding company "Wings Holdings" is going to set up a "Joint Venture" with BPI Aerospace of Miami to re-market Wings Holdings' future "44 L-1011 to be acquired from Delta Airlines soon". However, I never understood why a spare parts company - like BPI - should be partnered for aircraft re-marketing.  
Anyway, I just saw that one of BPI's representatives is one of the very "successful" men at former Custom Air Support Holdings that tried to re-market the former Saudi Arabian Airlines L-1011-200s. As I understand now from Saudi Arabian, negotiations are under way with Custom Air for a settlement after the company had withdrawn from a deal to purchase Saudia's condemned aircraft (L1011 and B737-200's). "If we fail to reach an agreement we will take legal action", Saudia's Director General was quoted. Bakr said the company which offered to buy TriStar aircraft was not competent and did not fulfill its commitements. This news report came from Arab News on December 21, 2000. If this goes for BPI's expertise as well...

Daniel


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11478 times:

I think this is being sold for a resturant, house or something along those lines. Looking at that photo I would not imagine this plane flying again.

User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11459 times:

HKGspotter1,

This, generally, depends on if its was parked in accordance with "Short Term" or "Long Term" storage regulations. If it met the "Short Term Storage", the aircraft could be put back in service in relatively short period. The "Long Term Storage" allows an aircraft to be parked for an extended period without any runs of engines etc.! In this case the return to service requirements are very extensive.

Anyway, the TWA N31023 was obviously put into long term storage. Therefor, the airframe requires extensive maintenance and refurbishment... and is surely not among the "first choices" for any kind of operator (very early serial plus a high total hours and cycles accumulated). Good for spare use. I would expect the reserve between $275,000 and $375,000.

Daniel


User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11439 times:

The pic looks to be taken at Mojave..maybe I should go up to the high desert and do a personall inspection..Hehehe!..My wife would just kill me!..Honey..Guess what I bought today...!

User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 11422 times:

It's stored down in Kingman/Arizona.

User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 11426 times:

Daniel, actually, Rick Wellman is Rob Wellman's son - and as such has no connection to Custom Air Support.

BPI have bought five L1011s and parted out four; they also have extensive L1011 spares holdings. It therefore makes a great deal of sense to partner with a company which has support expertise. Additionally, BPI has been getting much more involved with aircraft leases and sales recently.

VirginFlyer - You can fit RB211-22Bs or -524s no problem. These engines (especially the -22Bs) can be leased for a very reasonable sum these days! 


User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11391 times:

Neil (Ceilidh),

Please let me know if any of your (prospected) L-1011 companies - Wings Holdings, Caledonian Wings - has already been registered yet. Thanks.

Daniel


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11383 times:

Daniel - the cost of registering a company in the UK is around US$150 - so that doesn't mean much!

User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11375 times:

Neil,

So, any of your prospected companies in the trade register yet?

Daniel


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11358 times:

Daniel - if you look at the website, you'll see that I use Odyssey Group Limited which trades under the various other names. Should we go ahead with the acquisition of a UK carrier we've been in discussions with for some time, that company will have its name changed to the operating name we end up using.

User currently offlineNotarzt From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 642 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11335 times:

Neil,

So, if I understand this correctly, neither Celtic Aviation Group and Celtic Airways nor Wings Holdings and Caledonian Wings were or are in the UK trade register. Thanks.

Daniel


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11321 times:

Daniel - not that it has much to do with the subject of this thread! - Celtic Airways was just a working name (as was Celtic Aviation Group, obviously); Wings Holdings is an offshore company and Caledonian Wings was to be the new name for the existing UK airline being acquired. At this moment, though, the only active company is Odyssey. Hope that clarifies things for you.

User currently offlineF_boot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11318 times:

Ceilidh, as you've shown us all that you will LIE whenever you feel like it to make a point (Lawyergal, SAS23) how can we trust anything else you claim?

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11234 times:

Ceilidh-
I'm not 'doing an F_boot' (ie. trying to cause trouble) but I noticed that you wrote:
"...Caledonian Wings was to be the new name for the existing UK airline being aquired."
Was this a mistake, or wing Caledonian Wings not happen?

Cheers,
Jamie.


User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11228 times:

Gee, I was hoping to write a check for this Bird. Maybe I will have to Consider using my Friends Credit Card to Poichase this Boid.  

User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11220 times:

Jamie - nope, but with cybersquatters et al, when the operation gets going it will be under a different name. And it probably won't be as scheduled in 2001 either - the guys with the money that wanted the operation took too long to get their act together for us to keep to the April launch date.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (13 years 3 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 11209 times:

So you wont be 'taking off' next year then (2001)?

25 Ironchain15 : If I had the money, I think I would turn it into a house, like that guy did with the 727 up in Oregon or Washington or wherever he is. I think that is
26 Ceilidh : Jamie - not as Caledonian Wings, no.
27 VirginFlyer : Before anyone puts the boot into Ceilidh about this delay, and trying to say it is evidence the hwole thing is BS, remember that setting up an airline
28 Lowfareair : I don't know why you guys are picking on Ceilidh so much. You guys started it(on this thread), and she answered it, so I don't want to see any "Well t
29 Teahan : Can't you all just shut up for once instead of attacking Ceilidh! Most of us have dreams and most of us don't follow them! He is and I believe he will
30 Ceilidh : Thanks guys .. but I thought this thread was about the BPI L1011 being sold on Ebay? Incidentally, it didn't reach its reserve, but we do have a possi
31 Post contains images Notarzt : I always knew, Neil. Nuff' said! Daniel
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