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Allegiant Announces AZA-RFD  
User currently offlineFlyAZA From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2957 times:
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Allegiant just gave the official announcement of their first destination from AZA.

From the official press release:

"Allegiant Air, LLC today announced Rockford, Ill. will soon have two more ways to get some vacation sun with new, nonstop and low-cost flights to sunny South Florida and Arizona. Flights from Chicago Rockford International Airport to Phoenix-Mesa will begin Nov. 16 and service to Fort Lauderdale will begin Dec. 14. The low-fare carrier will celebrate the convenient new service to South Florida with sunny introductory fares as low as $69* each-way and fares as low as $79* each way to Arizona.

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Flights to Phoenix-Mesa will operate Monday and Friday, departing Rockford at 5:25 p.m. arriving in Williams Gateway Airport at 8:15 p.m. Flights leaving Phoenix-Mesa will depart at 12:45 p.m. arriving in Rockford at 4:50 p.m. (all flight times are local.)"

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User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Excellent to see that annoucement. SkyValue did 59 to GYY each way, so already G4 is showing they are much smarter than the prior Chicago area service. 79 each way is still a great price also!

User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

Isn't it IWA? Congrats RFD.


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User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Quoting YNGguins (Reply 2):
Isn't it IWA? Congrats RFD.

The airport is trying to get the identifer changed to AZA, for now it is IWA.


User currently offlineThirteenRight From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 3):
The airport is trying to get the identifer changed to AZA, for now it is IWA.

Why AZA??


User currently offlineFlyAZA From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
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Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 3):
Isn't it IWA?

Officially AZA with IATA (changed this year) and will be used by Allegiant for their ticketing and planning purposes, as well as for marketing to new carriers. IWA still with FAA for their needs. Too much paperwork and manuals to change right now for them apparently.


User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Quoting ThirteenRight (Reply 4):
Why AZA??

Because it seems more like "Arizona" than IWA could ever be interpreted as being.


User currently offlineATAIndy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Allegiant hasn't updated their route map yet. Great news for Rockford though!


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User currently offlineAirbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

That is so surprising that they chose Rockford instead of Sioux Falls, Sioux Falls was getting 95% load factors the airport was saying, but SF no doubt will get it in the second round. Great News for ROckford! CONGRATS!!!


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User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 8):
That is so surprising that they chose Rockford instead of Sioux Falls, Sioux Falls was getting 95% load factors the airport was saying, but SF no doubt will get it in the second round. Great News for ROckford! CONGRATS!!!

That is only the first of 13 destinations to be announced. Sioux Falls could still happen!


User currently offlineG4resagent From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Quoting FlyAZA (Reply 5):
will be used by Allegiant for their ticketing and planning purposes

I would check that. All of our systems show IWA and not AZA.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Great choice; I imagine it will be filled with Cubs/White Sox fans at least in March. Alot of ex-Chicago people here, and in summer they will want to head east, so yes, with the proper marketing it should be a success.

User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 8):
That is so surprising that they chose Rockford instead of Sioux Falls, Sioux Falls was getting 95% load factors the airport was saying, but SF no doubt will get it in the second round. Great News for ROckford! CONGRATS!!!

Not really surprising at all AirbusAddict. RFD already has routes to PIE, LAS, and SFB; so it only makes since that they get flights to IWA and FLL first. Cities like Springfield, MO and Peoria, IL will also probably get announced before Sioux Falls as they too already have service to PIE, LAS, and SFB.

Sioux Falls will probably get it, but it will probably be in the coming weeks; not days.



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1630 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

Quoting YNGguins (Reply 12):
Not really surprising at all AirbusAddict. RFD already has routes to PIE, LAS, and SFB; so it only makes since that they get flights to IWA and FLL first. Cities like Springfield, MO and Peoria, IL will also probably get announced before Sioux Falls as they too already have service to PIE, LAS, and SFB.

I would have to agree with you 100%. That is why I think LAN will get service to both as well. They have really found there market here in Mid-Michigan



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

All I can say is that I think its great.....I predict that we will be busy at work booking this route for people....
Im not sure how well FLL will do but I know that the Mesa service should work.....it does get into Mesa kinda late but at least they get there....

Access-Air.



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User currently offlineAirbusaddict From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

I forgot RFD had PIE, SFB, LAS. But yeah. Will Spirit try and compete against Allegiant at FLL?


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User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Quoting Airbusaddict (Reply 15):
Will Spirit try and compete against Allegiant at FLL?

Why would they? Spirit focuses on routes to/from Latin America from FLL while Allegiant will focus on bringing travelers from small town America to FLL. Two entirely different markets.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32210 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 14):
Im not sure how well FLL will do but I know that the Mesa service should work...

You are talking about a flight from suburban Chicago to suburban Miami. This flight will fill easily.



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
You are talking about a flight from suburban Chicago to suburban Miami. This flight will fill easily.

Well really, I wouldnt call Rockford suburban Chicago...Rockford is 63 Miles NW of OHare.....on The Tristate....As much as the people in Rockford like to think of themselves as part of Chicago, the urban sprawl has not reached quite that far...Still plenty of corn fields separate the two.....90 minutes of 65mph travel on a bus is not my idea of a suburb....

I just hope that the service will work. We will all see...With the load factors as high as they seem to be to the other destinations out of Rockford, I am sure it will work....I know that the service to Mesa will be a big hit....I would imagine the flights to Mesa will probably be just as busy as the Others....it was a good choice....However Im not so sure about the departure time from Rockford....Time will tell....

I think the best thing for Alleginat that contributes to their high load factors are that they dont fly 5-7 days a week in every market, If they did, then you would see their load factors thinner ans more spead out. Since they limit days of the week they fly to each city, everyone that flies them only gets the chance on those token days of the week, Its not like trying to fill that plane every day..I think as long as Alleginat has the smart guys running their scheduling depratments to keep up with just when people are more likely to fly, you will see continued success....

Acces-Air
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User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 18):
90 minutes of 65mph travel on a bus is not my idea of a suburb....

Actaully it's only about 35 miles from the western Chicago suburbs to RFD. Even If you are a person that lives closer in in places like Hoffman Estates, Arlington Heights, Shaumburg, Rolling Meadows, etc, etc, RFD is going to be a fairly easy commute when compared to the other LCC mecca , MDW and especially GYY, whcih is just out of the question certain times of the day for the NW suburbs.


User currently offlineFlyAZA From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
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Quoting G4resagent (Reply 10):
I would check that. All of our systems show IWA and not AZA.

Hmmmm, interesting. The whole point of changing the identifier was for commercial service. Otherwise, why change it if it isn't going to be used? Have to check on that. Thanks for the reply. Through our marketing we are using AZA, although we do mark this as an IATA code.


User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1630 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

I think Lansing, Peoria, Fort Wayne, South Bend will be the next destinations to be announced from AZA/IWA.

No Specific Order. It just makes sense because all of them have all 3 destinations and are probably good candidate for the new AZ and FL service. Anyone else agree?



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User currently onlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

Quoting FlyAZA (Reply 20):
Hmmmm, interesting. The whole point of changing the identifier was for commercial service. Otherwise, why change it if it isn't going to be used? Have to check on that. Thanks for the reply. Through our marketing we are using AZA, although we do mark this as an IATA code.

Isn't IWA also being used as a code for Ivanova, Russia?



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User currently offlineCageyjames From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 22):
Isn't IWA also being used as a code for Ivanova, Russia?

The IATA code as is AZA. The FAA code is IWA. The only reason they haven't changed the IWA code is "paperwork". This will continue to be confusing for everyone as long as IWA continues to exist.

I'm going to do my part and only refer to it as AZA.  Wink


User currently onlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Quoting Cageyjames (Reply 23):
The IATA code as is AZA. The FAA code is IWA. The only reason they haven't changed the IWA code is "paperwork". This will continue to be confusing for everyone as long as IWA continues to exist.

I'm going to do my part and only refer to it as AZA.

Thats what I thought but in reply #10 G4resagent says they show IWA still in their system. It seemed to confuse FlyAZA (who works at AZA/IWA) in reply #20. So just adding why the AZA change.



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25 YNGguins : It's not that I want to disagree, but if I were Allegiant I'd target the heartland and the west to Phoenix before you really make some long runs out
26 LH459 : Yes, it is.
27 Post contains links KarlB737 : It sounds like the key to acquiring service from Allegiant is centered on two components: 1. Local Support. 2. Efforts of your airport management team
28 JetBlueGuy2006 : I completely understand. I just say those because it seems like this is the area they want to target. They stated in the initial announcement that th
29 Post contains images National757 : " target=_blank>http://www.flyrfd.com/AACEOROCKFORD.wmv Thanks for sharing the link Karl!
30 FlyPeoria : Peoria's announcement will be made August 25, so it won't be among the first several. IWA is more likely that FLL, but I suspect we'll get both. Our a
31 Jetpixx : Instead of competing, maybe they should look into a codeshare agreement and try and work together to fill planes. It would give NK some more feed and
32 National757 : There is no incentive to. Why would G4 help NK fill planes when NK clearly does not need any help filling planes? Same goes for NK helping G4. Codesh
33 JetBlueGuy2006 : Although, with the additions to Allegiants' Schedule, I would like to see them come out with some type of FF Program that would not only give you poin
34 National757 : What a great idea! An innovative FF Program for a different kind of airline. I like it! In the future when G4 is ready to launch a frequent flier pro
35 JetBlueGuy2006 : We will have it on record that it was first thought of here.
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