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Questions About AA's Airbus 300  
User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4597 times:

This Sept. my friend will be flying on AA Airbus 300 and it will be his first time. I am wonder if any of you will provide some pics or info about Airbus 300. My friend and I sure would appreciate it.

I am surprised that Airbus 300 is still flying even it is old plane in US and AA is only airline that still flying them in US. I would like to fly them but I am little worry about problems that Airbus 300 have lately. If you all able to convict me that they are most safety that would be a big relief for me.  Smile

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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4572 times:

The A300 is a great aircraft, I've never flown one, but I'm hoping I'll get a chance at some point before they're retired.

Some info-

With AA, the A300s have a total of 235 seats, making them the largest capacity aircraft in the fleet (I believe the 777s only have 234 seats, correct me if I'm wrong). They fly exclusively on the east coast, primarily to Caribbean destinations where the extra cargo capacity is needed.

Safety-wise, you have nothing to worry about. AA has been successfully running them for a long time now, and with the exception of the November 2001 crash, no major incidents have ever occurred with them.

So, enjoy your flight! Who knows how long those things will be around?  Smile



Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17185 posts, RR: 66
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4559 times:

Quoting San747 (Reply 1):

With AA, the A300s have a total of 235 seats, making them the largest capacity aircraft in the fleet (I believe the 777s only have 234 seats, correct me if I'm wrong).

IIRC the 777 has 265 seats. But given the size disparity the 300 is way more dense.


Safe? Yes. Modern aircraft are by and large very very safe. It takes an operator to make them unsafe. AA is hardly on the watchlist.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11979 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4552 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I am surprised that Airbus 300 is still flying even it is old plane in US and AA is only airline that still flying them in US.

In the scheme of things, compared to AA's 767-200s and many of their MD80s, the A300s are spring chickens. The oldest one is less than twenty years old. The reason they are still around, and haven't yet been replaced, is two-fold: first, they serve a very unique and specialized mission within the AA network that no other current AA airplane can accomplish (namely, ultra-high-density, ultra-high-cargo-demand U.S.-Caribbean/Latin America routes), and second, AA has yet to find a suitable replacement aircraft. Long-term, my personal opinion is that the new Boeing 787-3 will replace them, but that is still at least 5-7 years off.

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I would like to fly them but I am little worry about problems that Airbus 300 have lately.

Nothing to worry about. I personally don't really like flying the A300s, but it's not because of safety. The planes are maintenance hogs, but they are definitely safe. AA takes good care of them, and AA's maintenance organization is one of the most experienced, and professional, in the industry.

Quoting San747 (Reply 1):
With AA, the A300s have a total of 235 seats, making them the largest capacity aircraft in the fleet (I believe the 777s only have 234 seats, correct me if I'm wrong).

Actually, the A300s seat 267 in a very high-density (J16Y251) layout, and yes, they are most definitely the highest-capacity aircraft in the fleet, significantly larger than the low-density 777s.


User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4484 times:

Yeah, they also use A300 on MIA to some of South America routes too. I am not sure if they use them on to Carribean routes. I am sure they use often on MIA-SJU as AA is carribean Hub there too. What is purpose of different seats?? domestic seats and international seats?? or what??

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4344 times:

I don't have a vast knowledge of the A300s they are probably my second favourite aircraft in the fleet, surpassed only by the MD80s. I just think they are quite impressive birds and they look incredibly wide in the AA livery. As for safety, this is a modern aircraft and it is no less safe than any other aircraft from the era it originates. Its had its problems and I wouldn't maybe advise you to fly one that originates from an poorer less renowned airline in an undeveloped country, but AA is a world superforce that maintains its aircraft to the highest standards, so you shouldn't be worried

BA787


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I am surprised that Airbus 300 is still flying even it is old plane in US and AA is only airline that still flying them in US. I would like to fly them but I am little worry about problems that Airbus 300 have lately. If you all able to convict me that they are most safety that would be a big relief for me.

The A300s in AA fleet are A300-600s and not that old many major airlines in the US and Europe fly even older aircraft.
What problems of the A300 are you refering to ?
The A300-600 is in service with some of the most safe and reliable airlines in the world like Lufthansa, Qatar, Thai, JAL
they would not use it if it is not safe. Age is also not an issue of an aircraft it is well maintained. NW flies 40 year old Dc 9s and until recently 30 year old Dc 10s, I would have no problem boarding these aircraft despite their age because I know they are well looked after.
I flew on several A300-600s (mostly with LH) and can assure you it is a great aircraft and a great flying experience.
P.S. For your info
AA is not the only airline in the US that is flying them. UPS and Fedex also have a large A300-600 fleet and I believe some smaller freight airlines also have A300B2 and older (non -600)B4s. But if you are refering to passenger aircraft you are right of course.Fedex just got their last A300-600 delivered in June, came fresh from the factory in Toulouse. It can get any newer  Wink



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineSevenHeavy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 1158 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Some of this has been covered previously but here are a few relevant points:

- AA''s A300's are far newer than many of their MD80 and B767 aircraft and considerably newer than other aircraft belonging to other US carriers. For example I believe that UA/NW have a few B744 that are older!.

- Having been deployed on certain domestic (even transcon) routes in the past, the A300's now fly almost exclusively on the routes and markets they serve best: High density eastern US - Caribbean and central america routes where cargo capacity is arguably more lucrative than carrying passengers.

- Main hubs for the A300 are MIA, SJU and JFK.

- They have a higher passenger capacity than any other aircraft in AA's fleet, even the B777.

- The A300 is, IMHO a far more pleasant aircraft to fly than some of the narrowbodies that would be the alternative. Admittedly some of AA' s aircraft could do with a refurb but the majority of their flights are less than 3.5 hours ( a few are longer, I know)

I would have absolutely no hesitation in flying an AA A300, to the point where it is not even a consideration that should enter anyone's thoughts. AA has some of the best maintained aircraft in the business. Give me a 20 yr old AA aircraft over a brand new B777/B737/A330 etc. on some other carriers any day!

Regards

-



So long 701, it was nice knowing you.
User currently offlineMiAAmi From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

You also run the risk of running late due to the many maintenance delays common to the A300. For example AA882/10AUG MIA-JFK running 14 hours late.

User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

I fly the A300 and I am no more likely to be delayed on that aircraft than any other. The truth is, it's the luck of the draw. Any aircraft can go tech. I recently flew a two day trip on four different A300s and every flight operated on time.

For clarification, AA's A300s hold either 266 or 267 passengers, depending on the bird. The 777s hold 245 pax, soon to be 247 with two add'l J-class seats. Also, AA's A300s were delivered new in 1989 and 1990. AA is the largest passenger operater of the type and has a lot of experience with it. You have nothing to worry about.



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User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 5):
I don't have a vast knowledge of the A300s they are probably my second favourite aircraft in the fleet, surpassed only by the MD80s.

My god. I never thought I'd read someone say that. A300 and MD80 as someone's top two favourite aircraft in the fleet. These are sadly the most outdated planes in AAs fleet. The interiors in the A300 are in absolutely decrepit conditions (admitedly it has been a couple of years since I have flown one). The so called business calss is a discusting joke. The MD80, pleeeeease (I know I'll get flamed by the MD80 nostalgics). No IFE, the WORST (by far) first class in the fleet (seats are only 20% wider than the tight Y seats), noisy as hell in the back. Overhead bins that can't even accomodate wheeled carry ons on one side and are tight all around greatly delaying boarding and causing many bags to have to be removed from the aircraft.

These are both substandard planes. And they can't be fixed. There is no solution for the overhead bins at all and it is not economical to refurbish either bird. On top of that, their fuel consumption per seat (compared to say a 738) is attrocious.

It is time to get a replacement program for them in place. 738s/783s - see you can replace both with just arranging 3 digits.



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 10):
No IFE


No different than WN and AS 73Gs.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 10):
the WORST (by far) first class in the fleet (seats are only 20% wider than the tight Y seats)

20% is actually quite a bit, put that into terms of money and you wouldn't balk if you got a 20% raise. Besides, the F seats on the MD-80 are only 1.5 inches narrower than the 737 and 757.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 10):
Overhead bins that can't even accommodate wheeled carry-ons on one side

Actually, all the overhead bins can accommodate roll-a-board carry-ons. Just like all 732s, 734s, 735s, 736s, 752s, 762s, 763s, A300s, A310s, A330s, A340s, DC-10s, MD-11s, 742s, 743s and 744s. All the aforementioned aircraft can only accommodate roll-a-board suitcases sideways over the outboard seats, just like the MD-80 on aircraft left. AA has modified their MD-80s, as you kind of mentioned, to accommodate roll-a-boards wheels-first on the three seat side, increasing the aircraft's overhead bin space by 50%.

AA's MD-80s have the same interior as the 738s and 772s, complete with power ports and leather headrests. I don't love the MD-80, and I don't like how much fuel they use, but they are hardly deserve the rap you give them.

The A300s could definitely use a makeover. Having said that, however, they all have been fitted with new seat covers and carpet. The ten former three class A300s have completely new interiors, complete with LCD monitors, new first class seats and coach seats with leather headrests.



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User currently offlineMiAAmi From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 9):
I fly the A300 and I am no more likely to be delayed on that aircraft than any other.

I think they are short A300 pilots right now. Its not unusual to see A300 flights with significant delays, sometimes over 12 hours for either maint or crew rest. just ask anyone traveling to GYE and LIM.


User currently offlineNA747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 120 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

Yes...some hold C16 and Y250 and others C16 Y251.
Besides MIA/JFK/SJU, AA currently flies them to:
Orlando
Santo Domingo
Port-au-Prince
Caracas
Bogotá
Guayaquil
Managua
San José (Costa Rica)
Lima
Guatemala City
Cancun

I've seen AA drop the A300 in many other places in previous years (Chicago, LAX, Newark, Boston, London Heathrow, Panamá, Cali, Aruba, etc.)

When it comes to on time performance they are not very reliable, though.


User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Quoting NA747 (Reply 13):
Orlando
Santo Domingo
Port-au-Prince
Caracas
Bogotá
Guayaquil
Managua
San José (Costa Rica)
Lima
Guatemala City
Cancun

Add Santiago de los Caballeros STI to that list. SAL used to have A300 service as well.



C208B
User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I just flew on two AA AB6's today...MIA-SJU-MIA....I'll be posting a lot of pics and videos tomorrow morning.

Let me say that both flights were great....although there was a minor "hiccup" on the return. About 15 minutes out of MIA both of the airplane's cabin pressure systems failed at the same time (that's exactly what the captain told us). My head, out of nowhere, felt like it was going to explode! Oxygen masks did not come down, and the pilot managed to override it manually somehow and after a few minutes things were better.

More details to follow in the report....


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 15):
Let me say that both flights were great....although there was a minor "hiccup" on the return. About 15 minutes out of MIA both of the airplane's cabin pressure systems failed at the same time (that's exactly what the captain told us). My head, out of nowhere, felt like it was going to explode! Oxygen masks did not come down, and the pilot managed to override it manually somehow and after a few minutes things were better.

This is why I don't like to work that plane. It always has some sort of issue. Just the other day a Crew member told me he took off from MCO and all cabin lights went out for no reason, then he had to call the cockpit to notify them of the problem which they were not aware of at all. The lights came back on ten minutes later!

The first, if not the second ever flight on an A300 with AA ended up landing in BDA on a JFK-SJU run due to fuel issues.

Also the smoke alarms in the restrooms always start chiming for no reason at all. You look for fire and nothing is known, even when ground crews check the plane after landing.

I don't know if it is AA,Airbus, or this specific model, but the plane is one big mess. She is a money maker because of her belly, if not she would have been sent along with the Fokker to other pastures. The day she is gone from AA is the day that I will pop open a bottle of champagne to celebrate!



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11979 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 10):
The MD80, pleeeeease (I know I'll get flamed by the MD80 nostalgics). No IFE, the WORST (by far) first class in the fleet (seats are only 20% wider than the tight Y seats), noisy as hell in the back. Overhead bins that can't even accomodate wheeled carry ons on one side and are tight all around greatly delaying boarding and causing many bags to have to be removed from the aircraft.

I actually do like the MD80 for many of the reasons you say you don't like it.

I have never had a problem getting my roll-aboard carry-ons into the wider, DEF-said overhead bins, or the AB-side bins either for that matter. I find the seats to be very comfortable, and because they have some of the newest cabin interiors in the AA fleet, I find most of them to be just fine in terms of cleanliness and modernity. I also love that it is a 2-3 cabin instead of a 3-3 cabin like on just about every other narrowbody these days. That makes it so much more enjoyable as you have a much better chance of having a window or an aisle - much fewer middle seats!

Finally, as for the First Class - perhaps I'm flying in a different MD80 than you are, but I find the MD80 First Class to be perhaps the most enjoyable narrowbody premium cabin flying experience I've ever had in terms of comfort and noise level. Because the MD80's engines are aft-mounted, it sure is loud to be sitting in the last 5 rows of Y, but man oh man, is F silent.


User currently onlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5052 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 16):
I don't know if it is AA,Airbus, or this specific model, but the plane is one big mess.

Since the only complaints about A300 reliability always come from the same airline, well...


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

I know many have said that AA doesn't really "take care" of the AB6's as they should, but I don't think that's the case. The way I see it, the flight crew would refuse to fly the plane if they thought for a second it was unsafe. I think the planes have a lot of little quirks in them because most of them have been doing the tough Central American/Caribbean duties over the past 15-18 years. The term "workhorse" is a good term for the plane. I probably saw half the AB6 fleet in MIA and SJU yesterday, and every one I saw was packed to the gills. The planes play a unique role for AA. Honestly I'd like to see them venture out to HNL some day...they have the ETOPS and the mostly coach seating already....but I know that probably won't happen. I think I have a new apreciation for the A300 when all is said and done.

User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

We hear more about AA's A300s than we do about other airlines because they are the largest passenger operator of the type and they fly far more cycles than most other A300s out there.

There is no doubt AA's A300s have quirky tech problems from time to time, even the pilots know and admit that. I've heard some theorize it might have something to do with the repeated cycles into hot and humid locations, the extreme cold temperatures aloft and then snow/rain/ice conditions upon landing in the Northeast. After years and years of these repeated cycles four, five and six times a day, things get wonky. I am not saying that is an official explanation, but one some pilots theorize.

I, as a flight attendant, love the plane. There is more room on that thing than any other, compared to how many pax it holds. On full flights the pax still have a little space to themselves and flight crew have plenty of space. It's an easy plane to work because of that, even when it's full. It is an odd aircraft, for sure, but I've come to love its little oddities and embrace it for what it is: the most unique aircraft in AA's fleet (and the US for that matter) and one of the hardest working.

FYI, This has been posted here before, but deserves mentioning again: The first A300 to leave AA's fleet will be next year (2008) and the last one will leave in 2012. They are no longer renewing leases and will return them to their lessors when the leases expire. I don't know how many we'll lose each year. This info was provided at this year's Purser Conference in May. You can bet UPS and/or FedEx will snap those birds up in no time.



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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 10):

I meant more as an aviation enthusiast and although what you say is true, I defy you not to be amazed by the noise of those MD80s and the A300 is just a favourite airplane of mine. I am not into historical a/c. but the DC9/MD80s and the early Airbuses do interest me. I'd rather ride an MD80 than the f**cked AA 757s

BA787


User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3758 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3494 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Thread starter):
I am surprised that Airbus 300 is still flying even it is old plane in US and AA is only airline that still flying them in US.

Fed Ex fly them. I belive you must mean as passengers airliners.  Wink


User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 11):
No different than WN and AS 73Gs.



Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 11):
Besides, the F seats on the MD-80 are only 1.5 inches narrower than the 737 and 757.

Hummm. That may be true measuring seat cushion width, but the F passenger in a AA 738 has a lot more room than on an AA Dog. The 738 interior fuselage diameter is over a foot wider than the MD80. Both types have 2x2 seating in F. Do the math. I don't think you can get away from the fact that the F passaner in a Mad Dog has less space than any mainline F class passenger on other types. No matter how you spin it.

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 11):
Actually, all the overhead bins can accommodate roll-a-board carry-ons.

Correct. I'm sorry, I meant wheels first on the x2 side (as you correctly surmized). Thanks for repplying to my comment intelligently instead of the typical A.net ("it fits").

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
Finally, as for the First Class - perhaps I'm flying in a different MD80 than you are, but I find the MD80 First Class to be perhaps the most enjoyable narrowbody premium cabin flying experience I've ever had

I'm sorry, but as stated above, you have less room than ANY other mainline F on other types. the 738 is actually a bit quieter (in my estimation), perhaps due to better insullation and enviromentals (e.g. air conditioning flow). Engine noise is not relevant for F on the Dog or 738. Slipstream noise is the dominant noise factor in cruise for both types. As for sitting in the back of a Dog, god help you, if you are near the engines with the fans a mere inches from your ear. Been there, no like.

Quoting BA787 (Reply 21):
I meant more as an aviation enthusiast and although what you say is true,

Fair enough. I agree. The MD80 is an interesting ride - the culmination of the DC-9 line. AA Pilots seem to be very protective of the type. I was sitting next to an AA Captain dadheading once, flying out of DCA on an ERJ, and he went on and on quoting the CAS advantge of the Dog vs the American Eagle ERJs (I believe at that time oil around $35 it was 7 cents). I also agree that we need to respect the A300 for ushering in the era of the widebody twin. So I agree, from an enthusiast's point of view, the culmination of the Douglas narrowbody and the plane that got Airbus in business are indeed milestones in aviation. So, I've flown in them more than enough, now I want to fly in more comfortable contraptions. Get rid of them AA - how about withing the next 10 years. Is that too much to ask.



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 23):
Hummm. That may be true measuring seat cushion width, but the F passenger in a AA 738 has a lot more room than on an AA Dog.

I understand your point here, for comparison I simply went to SeatGuru.com and took the posted seat widths from there for AA's 752s, 738s and MD-80s. The 752s and 738s both measure 21" wide whereas the MD-80 measures 19.5".

I also looked at other airlines, and for further comparison, CO's 752s F-class seat is 20" wide, only .5 inches wider than AA's MD-80s.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 23):
you have less room than ANY other mainline F on other types.

Actually, DL's MD-90s F-class seats are .2 inches narrower than AA's MD-80 F-class. I know it's the same type, essentially, but it's the point. When compared to DL's MD-90s and MD-80s and NW's DC-9s, we're talking about a signifigant number of aircraft of which to compare AA's MD-80 F-class product. It's just not as bad as you make it out to be.



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25 Planetime : I have a question on the A300 of AA ... why is that this plane considered so good for cargo? I mean Fedex and UPS also use this. Thanks and please exc
26 FLY2LIM : I just arrived from a flight from LIM to SFO via MIA that included a segment on the A300. I have flown this plane numerous times to LIM and I hate th
27 Commavia : If you've ever been at an airport where the A300 was operating, and you saw it taxiing into the gate, and coming right at you, you'd immediately reco
28 TrijetsRMissed : Some points to add. The A300 is known for its powerful take-offs and the fact that it is such a novelty in the US makes it an interesting ride. AA's f
29 QQflyboy : Good question. The details were vague about the A300's exit from the fleet, other than the first to go will be next year and the last to go will be i
30 Starlionblue : As mentioned above, the A300 is "fat". This is due to the circular cross section as opposed to the double bubble on the 767. The 767 is so narrow it
31 Flydreamliner : It's not like A300-600R is the only type that can complete the mission AA uses them for. They do what they are intended for well, and seem to serve A
32 Starlionblue : No. The cargo hold of the 300 is way larger than that of the 763 for the type of cargo hauled. The 767 requires special smaller containers. Cargo mak
33 Scorpio : AA has 34. Yes. The most, but not all of it. Thing is, as it stands, they're pretty much the only ones we're hearing this from.
34 MSYtristar : AA has like 35 AB6's, 10 of which are reconfigured with new interiors. I just flew on one...and they are very nice...much nicer inside that AA's 763E
35 MSYtristar : AA has like 35 AB6's, 10 of which are reconfigured with new interiors. I just flew on one...and they are very nice...much nicer inside than AA's 763E
36 AAJFKSJUBKLYN : I will never ever forget having a hard landing in MIA on an A300 and 5 overhead bins popped open. 2 Days later on my flight home, the bins were taped
37 Starlionblue : Ah. I see. 10 was leased or 10 was owned. That's why I was confused.
38 777STL : Continental had an earlier version of the 300 and they hated them, I've heard they were mx nightmares...
39 TrijetsRMissed : Good point. I should have considered that a given and since pax A300's are not a hot commodity right now. Quite the contrary, I think most who have f
40 Scorpio : I heard that that was mainly due to the way maintenance was organised for the A300 by CO, as told here several times by people working for CO at the
41 Indio66 : I flew one SJU to JFK a year or so back. They are pretty rough, but if you are looking for an authentic '80's experience, you will find one with the A
42 Post contains links and images 747fan : If you're into steep takeoffs, the Airbus A300 is you're plane, especially if they only use slats for the takeoff (yes, often times the A300 can takeo
43 Halls120 : Except for the 10 former 3 class aircraft that have been extensively refitted, the rest of them are tired at best. New carpet and seat covers don't a
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