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Wonderful Tribute To FA Uli Derickson  
User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5259 times:

I´ve come across this wonderful website! And I´d like to share it with everybody here on a.net

It´s a nice, moving, touching and fitting tribute to one of the greatest women ever alive!

Also it contains countless of images, articles, quotes, links and lots of information about the hijacking of TWA flight 847 in June of 1985. It´s a must see for all of us who work in the industry and everyone else interested in this tragic event and the heroic actions taken by the flight crew and especially Mrs. Derickson.

www.uliderickson.net

RIP nice lady! I honor and salute you!

Safe flying everyone,

L1011Lover

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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

Thanks for posting this. I have a picture of her and the crew of TW847 in my profile.

TUNisia



Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

That´s indeed a very nice picture of the entire crew of flight TW847.

I wonder where these crewmembers are today???!!! The cockpit crew most definitely retired before TWA was absorbed by AA. But I´m wondering if the FA´s stayed till the end...

Best regards

L1011Lover


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 2):
I wonder where these crewmembers are today???!!! The cockpit crew most definitely retired before TWA was absorbed by AA. But I´m wondering if the FA´s stayed till the end...

Capt. Testrake died a few years ago. Uli worked for TWA after the 847 incident and then went to work for Delta in 2001 I remember reading. She was diagnosed with cancer in 2003. I don't know if she worked right until the end or not. RIP! I don't know about the rest of the crew... anyone else?

[Edited 2007-08-12 05:32:06]


Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Cpt. Testrake died of cancer in 1996, Uli Derickson in february 2005... She actually went to work for Delta in 1992. Was based out of CVG for a while...

I wonder where the rest of the crew is today... Sorry, I didn´t make it that clear.


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4914 times:

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 4):
Cpt. Testrake died of cancer in 1996, Uli Derickson in february 2005... She actually went to work for Delta in 1992. Was based out of CVG for a while...

Thanks for clearing that up! I don't know why I thought 2001, maybe because of TWA / AA in 2001. Wish I could help you out with the rest!



Someday the sun will shine down on me in some faraway place - Mahalia Jackson
User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

Thanks anyhow for trying to give some information. It was something at least  Smile

User currently offlineQantas787 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I would like to thank you L1011Lover for reminding me about the heroics of this crew. Reading through the time lines took me back to 1985 and how mesmorized and appalled I was at the hijacking. May we all travel in the future without the fear of going through their ordeal.

User currently offlineDeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4721 times:

Quoting L1011Lover (Thread starter):
www.uliderickson.net

Hmmm. Not working anymore.

We probably exceeded the bandwidth.

[Edited 2007-08-12 14:38:14]


"We break, We bend, With hand in hand, When hope is gone, Just hang on." -Guster
User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Hi -

The website is working again. Something knocked it off line, but it is back in business. It resides on my nephew's server, so I asked him to reboot it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for taking the time to visit the site. And I want to thank L1011Lover for mentioning it on one of his previous posts!!!

Some of you asked about the crew of Flight 847 and their current whereabouts. I too would love to find them, and would appreciate any clues as to there whereabouts.

I found a 1988 article about Phil Maresca, where he stated that he would retire in 2002. In 1988, he and his new wife were living in Utah and enjoying outdoor activities like boating, hiking and skiing.

He also said that the hijacking changed him. "Before, like so many others, I took so much that we have in America for granted. Even though I had been exposed to many cultures less fortunate than our own, I was still complacent about what we have here,'' he said.

Maresca said he didn't begin to appreciate what Americans have until he saw how the people in Lebanon lived. "I can't imagine living in a place without a police department, a fire department, civil service, electricity, a sewer system or a water system,'' he said. "It was total chaos.''

Maresca said it's virtually impossible to take his freedom, his family and friends for granted ever again after being at the mercy of the terrorists for 17 days - never quite sure if they would live to see the end of each day.

I believe that Benjamin Christian Zimmerman became more involved with his public ministry, working as a pastor for Our Savior Congregations and a family ministry called L'Abri on Lake Cascade in Idaho. He posted a comment on the web concerning the hijacking in 2006, so he is still around and active on the Internet.

I know virtually nothing about the other four FA's except where they were living at the time of the hijacking.


User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4529 times:

Thank You Windjammer for all the informaion and especially Thanks so much for the wonderful website you´ve created!

Welcome to my RU list... it´s the least I can do  Smile

L1011Lover


User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4407 times:

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 3):
I don't know if she worked right until the end or not

In a previous post, Tunisia wondered whether Uli continued to work right up to her death or not. According to Uli's son Matthew, Uli took a medical leave of absence from Delta, but didn't retire, because she fully intended to return to work if she was fortunate enough to beat cancer. He also mentioned that if Uli ever did decide to retire, (which he doubted), she was looking forward to studying interior design.


User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting Windjammer (Reply 11):
Welcome to my RU list...

BTW - What is an RU list?


User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

Out of curiosity, would it be at all possible for Uli to be posthumously awarded the Israeli, "Righteous Among the Nations" or some other equivalent designation? My understanding is that the "Righteous Among the Nations" honor is given to non-Jews who protected Jews prior to and during the Holocaust. To me, it seems that Uli did a similar heroic feat by hiding the Jewish passengers from the hijackers.


Release your seat-belts and get out! Leave everything!
User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4006 times:

I think that is a wonderful idea. I recently read a comment made by one of those Jewish passengers (The Philadelphia Inquirer).

"Sue Herzberg said Mrs. Derickson removed the Herzbergs' marriage license, which had been signed by a rabbi, from their passports to keep the terrorists from knowing that they were Jewish."

Uli herself said, "I shoved Mrs. Herzberg's passport into another one and put it at the bottom of the pile. She was never called, just him," said Derickson.

"Sue Herzberg said the terrorists found a Star of David and threatened the couple to whom it belonged with death. She also said the terrorists had found her ring with the Hebrew inscription, 'I am my beloved's and my beloved is mine', that she had slipped from her finger to avoid detection, and hid it in her purse, which was taken by the hijackers and never returned. She said they went around the plane with flashlights looking for someone with a pale ring-mark around a finger, trying to identify the owner, but were thwarted at least in part by Derickson."

After the hijacking, Uli said, "I had lunch with some friends from Israel recently, and they said that after you've been through an ordeal like that, you get to add an extra word to your name. The word is "haya" and it means "life." They said that when they go back to Israel they will have a necklace made up with the Hebrew letters for haya. So now I'm Uli-haya."

I understand that there is a permanent committee on the Righteous of Nations that sits at Yad Vashem to consider all applications. The committe is always chaired by a justice of the Supreme Court of Israel. Testimonies are taken, witnesses and records examined. The motives must be pure. Three degrees of recognition are possible with the minimum award being a certificate of honor. At the next level the Righteous Christian is given the right to plant a tree at Yad Vashem. At the highest level, along with the certificate, and tree planting, a medallion is given. The madallion bears the saying, "He who saves one life, it is as if he saves the whole world."

[Edited 2007-08-15 14:15:13]

User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

Quoting Windjammer (Reply 12):
BTW - What is an RU list?

The Respected User list. I guess this must be some kind of record... lol... After the very first post being added to someones Respected User list... !!!

So, welcome to mine!

You´ve done a great job with this website. Something that was long overdue!

L1011Lover


User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

I’ve been thinking about MarkHKG’s comment concerning Uli’s being awarded the "Righteous Among the Nations". You know, I think if Uli’s efforts to protect the Jews on Flight 847 qualified her for that award, that it would probably have been presented shortly after Uli’s return from Algeria.

On the 16th of July, Uli spoke at a news conference at the Viscount Hotel where a misunderstanding occurred between a New York Times reporter and Uli. When commenting on the fact that several people with Jewish-sounding names had been removed from the plane, the reporter came to understand that Uli had helped the hijackers single out those thought to be Jewish and reported as much on the front page of the New York Times. Uli came under attack in the Israeli press, was promptly denounced on the floor of the Israeli Parliament, and became the center of an ugly controversy. She received death threats, and promises of demonstrations to be held in front of her home where she would be taught “Jewish Justice.”

Of course, TWA and the FBI immediately conducted investigations into the allegations and presented their findings to the American Jewish Committee saying that the accusations with regard to Uli’s cooperating with the hijackers was groundless, and that her efforts to protect the Jews were heroic, saying, ”Mrs. Derickson acted in a heroic manner in an obviously dangerous and stressful situation.”

I would have thought that any awards to be presented to Uli by a Jewish organization would probably have happened then.


User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

I recently came across a book written by Captain Thomas Ashwood, one-time chairman of the Security Committee of the International Federation of Airline Pilots, called "Terror in the Skies." One of the chapters was called, "Horror in the Cabin – A Flight Attendant’s Story," which was based on Ashwood's interview of Uli Derickson. I found within that chapter a funny little tidbit that I thought was worth sharing:

"At one stage they (terrorists) ordered Uli to hand out paper cups of water to the passengers and became upset when it was taking too long for their liking. She asked if she could get the other flight attendants to assist as there were 143 passengers to serve. When that request was denied, she told Castro (one of the hijackers) that if he wanted it done quickly he had better help! Whereupon she handed him a tray of cups and told him to pass them out! Astonished, he did as he was told, gun in one hand, tray in the other."

Imagine a flight attendant demanding a hijacker help her serve passengers, and his obeying! That lady had guts!!


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

I didn't realize how poorly she was treated during the strike. Its mind boggling why people would do that to someone who saved so many lives and added so much to the reputation of both TWA and the flight attendant position as a whole.

User currently offlineWindjammer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 10 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Are you referring to the box of dead roses? Yes, that was an ugly moment. I often wonder if that contributed to her leaving TWA and moving to Delta. Does anyone know?

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