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Former AA Pier At DCA (question)  
User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Can anyone tell me when the former AA pier at DCA was demolished? Was it before or after the opening of terminals B and C? Thank you.

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User currently offlineJustPlaneNutz From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 492 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

It was shortly after the new terminal opened in 1997. The historic part of terminal A was then restored Terminal B is partly new, partly old (CO gates).

User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Speaking of the old AA pier at DCA does anyone have any pics of the interior/exterior of it or the rest of the parts of the old DCA terminal that have since been demolished ?

User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

When I would get stuck at DCA for a while and had finished eating at Legal Seafoods  Smile or bored in the Red Carpet Lounge, I would often walk down to the old terminal. Kinda neat seeing it. The tiny "museum" up the flight of stairs had a nice view of the runway.

User currently offlineRICguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Does anyone recall how many gates were on the AA pier? I vaugly remember there being about 8 or 9 gates. Didn't Eastern use a few too prior to their bankruptsy? Also, wasn't the Northwest peir supposed to be demoloshed as well making way for the entire terminal A renovation with new gates? Is that still part of DCA's plan?

Anyone by chance have a map of DCA early to mid 80s with airline locations and gate assignments?


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Quoting RICguy (Reply 4):
Does anyone recall how many gates were on the AA pier?

I believe it was 5 (but might have only been 4). In the early/mid 80's those gate were used by AA, New York Air (and later CO), Air Atlanta, and Air Florida. On some DCA terminal maps I remember the US Air gates looked like they were part of the AA pier, but in reality the US Air pier was on a lower level (you took an escalotor down to get to them) and the AA pier was on the same level as the ticketing lobbies.



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlinePhllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

There were 5 gates upstairs used by AA and Midway II that faced the banjo. The Delta Shuttle gates were downstairs.

Before the new terminal opened, NW, CO, TZ & YX operated in the banjo, along with AE.

AA and Midway II were next, with the Delta Shuttle downstairs. TWA & UA operated roughly where CO is now. AC used a gate right out of the rotunda as did the US Shuttle, which was also downstairs.

DL & US were in the Interim Terminal.


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3242 times:

Quoting Phllax (Reply 6):
There were 5 gates upstairs used by AA and Midway II that faced the banjo. The Delta Shuttle gates were downstairs.

Before the new terminal opened, NW, CO, TZ & YX operated in the banjo, along with AE.

AA and Midway II were next, with the Delta Shuttle downstairs. TWA & UA operated roughly where CO is now. AC used a gate right out of the rotunda as did the US Shuttle, which was also downstairs.

 checkmark  That was the set up in the very late 80's/early 90's once the North Terminal was demolished to make way for the new terminals.



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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1551 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Quoting RICguy (Reply 4):

Anyone by chance have a map of DCA early to mid 80s with airline locations and gate assignments?

DepartedFlights.com has a map from May, 1984:

http://www.departedflights.com/DCAce050184.jpg

Here's a map I scanned in the other day from Jan/Feb, 1994:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/BangZoom/Historic%20Files/DCAMap-1-2004.png


User currently offlineRICguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Thanks for the update and maps everyone....

I did fly out of DCA as a child back in the early to mid 80's on Braniff II. They shared the same gates with UA. I believe we departed from gate 27. I do remember seeing two Pan Am 727 and a DH7 parked on the Pier next to gate 27. I believe it was demolished once the interim terminal was opened.

I also remember the Red Carpet Club was excellent for spotting back in the day too.


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Quoting RICguy (Reply 9):
I did fly out of DCA as a child back in the early to mid 80's on Braniff II. They shared the same gates with UA.

Braniff II originally used Gate 1 (as did Western and NW) in the Banjo Pier at DCA and later moved to the gate they shared with UA.

Quoting RICguy (Reply 9):
I do remember seeing two Pan Am 727 and a DH7 parked on the Pier next to gate 27. I believe it was demolished once the interim terminal was opened.

That was the Pier for the North Terminal. The gates on that Pier started with gate 29 and went up to gate 34 or 35 as I recall with PE using Gate 29, DL using 30-31 and PA using 32-34/5. You are correct, that Pier was demolished when the interim terminal opened.



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlineRICguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Quoting PExDCA (Reply 10):
That was the Pier for the North Terminal. The gates on that Pier started with gate 29 and went up to gate 34 or 35 as I recall with PE using Gate 29, DL using 30-31 and PA using 32-34/5. You are correct, that Pier was demolished when the interim terminal opened.

Didn't Piedmont use a part of the North Terminal too? I thought there were a few gates off to the side of the north terminal.

Quoting PExDCA (Reply 10):
Braniff II originally used Gate 1 (as did Western and NW) in the Banjo Pier at DCA

Yes, it is now coming back to me. I flew out of DCA on Braniff II twice and departed once from the Banjo and once from the UA gates. I haven't been to DCA in about a year or so and that was to pick someone up. Are they going to ever tear down the Banjo and replace the gates in a similar fashion to Continental's gate layout? I know that was part of their initial plan.

Does anyone remember the walls of the hallway down to the circular part of the Banjo (gate area)? They had some strange retro curvature to them. I am a real Star Wars geek too, and I thought the walls looked similar to the Space Ship Tantive IV in the opening seen of Star Wars when the storm troopers attacked the rebels....at least that is how I remembered it as a kid in the early 1980s. Are the walls the same????


User currently offline727Tiger From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting RICguy (Reply 11):
Does anyone remember the walls of the hallway down to the circular part of the Banjo (gate area)? They had some strange retro curvature to them. I am a real Star Wars geek too, and I thought the walls looked similar to the Space Ship Tantive IV in the opening seen of Star Wars when the storm troopers attacked the rebels....at least that is how I remembered it as a kid in the early 1980s.

I flew out of DCA in the summer of 1983 on TWA to STL. That's exactly how I remember those walls. Of course, our trio was running as fast as it could to catch that flight, so I wasn't exactly soaking up my surroundings.

We flew into DCA from Charlotte on Piedmont, following the River Approach. What an introduction to DCA on a drizzly summer Sunday.


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2891 times:

Quoting RICguy (Reply 11):
Didn't Piedmont use a part of the North Terminal too?

Piedmont had its own mini-terminal that was an attached as an extention on the North side of the North Terminal. I believe it had 3 (or maybe 4) dedicated gates on a second level above the ticket counter. See the blue & white map above and you will see the location.

Quoting RICguy (Reply 11):
Does anyone remember the walls of the hallway down to the circular part of the Banjo (gate area)? They had some strange retro curvature to them.

 checkmark 



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlineKDCA From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

Hopefully that horribe "banjo" terminal will bite the dust sometime soon.

It seems that there is a lot of tarmac space in front of the original terminal in between th CO gates and the banjo. Will this are be utilized for anything other than RON parking?


User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

It's interesting what you'll find in the old terminal like the small museum and aerial views of the airport (I wish someone would put these pictures into a book about DCA because if it were published, I would buy it) over the years plus a quiet spot for watching most of the action. I woudl love to have see pictures of what that area must have been like int he 1960's-early 1990's. Also there is a set fo stairs that literally goes nowhere because there's a sheetrock wall at the bottum of it.

User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting Teneriffe77 (Reply 15):
Also there is a set fo stairs that literally goes nowhere because there's a sheetrock wall at the bottum of it.

Depending on where the stairs are it may be leading to some of the gates that until the mid-90's were loacted at ramp level. These included former US Air gates in their Pier just behind the AA Pier or the former Eastern Shuttle Gates off the historic ticket lobby.



"A single twig breaks, but the bundle of twigs is strong." - Tecumseh
User currently offlineJustPlaneNutz From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 492 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Quoting KDCA (Reply 14):
Hopefully that horribe "banjo" terminal will bite the dust sometime soon

No, no, no. I acutally like the old girl. Reminds me of flying as a kid.


User currently offlinePExDCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Quoting JustPlaneNutz (Reply 17):
No, no, no. I acutally like the old girl.

 checkmark  Me too!



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