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UPS A306F/767F Question  
User currently offlineF4N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (15 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

To all: In a recent thread our friend UPSpilot mentioned that UPS had allowed all its' 767F options
to expire without exercising any of them. Since UPS has since ordered the similar A306F, does this indicate that UPS is dissatisfied with the 767F or were there other considerations?

Can anyone elaborate?

Best regards,


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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4556 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (15 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Actually it seems that the A300-600F order now might be decreased due to the MD-11s that Boeing is preparing to convert to freighters and deliver to UPS.

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User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

I had asked the same question, and someone from UPS said that UPS loves their 763Fs but the A306Fs are being purchased to operate short/medium range routes, and to free up 763Fs on these routes so they can operate on longe range routes which they were purchased to do. The reason for choosing the A306F is that it is more economical to operate on these routes, and it fits better on these routes than their 763Fs do.
Happy Flying, Mr. T

User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1403 times:

Although similar to the 767s, the A300s were ordered to fill a specific regional requirement for a larger payload (100,000 lbs, I believe). As mentionned above, this would free the 767s for long-haul. I had previously read about some speculation that it may have also involved a combination of politics (European route rights) and dissatisfaction with the Boeing product. I'm not starting an Airbus vs Boeing thread, but there were some well publicized problems with 767s having been delivered to UPS with some defects in the tail.

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User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (15 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

King767 and Falconflyer have answered the question. King767 reiterated exactly what I stated in a previous post.
The A306 makes a nice fit between the 75 and 76 for UPS. It allows the 76 to do what it was bought for  

As far as the MD-11 what CX747 stated reducing the amount of A306's. UPS has a firm commitment for 30 A306's till 2008 and options for 30 more. We won't know about the options until then but there will be atleast 30 buses in the fleet. The MD-11 purchase was for UPS's long range fleet to complement the current 747 and 767 fleets. The A306 was soley purchased for regional wide body lift, not long range lift. With the China routes starting in April UPS needed extra long range lift. Another 747-200 has been added to the fleet. 13 MD-11's to start with options and also more 747's possibly. There have been talks about 747-300 conversions like Atlas and also 400 and 747x talks also.

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