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DL To Announce SLC-CDG On 8/13  
User currently offlineDelta7004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10633 times:

I've been told at work that the DL big dogs are coming up to SLC tomorrow to make an official SLC-CDG announcement, supposedly to begin on June 1 next year with 763ERs. Just a heads up to keep an eye on the Delta Newsroom tomorrow.

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User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10624 times:

My credit card is out and ready to book seats on the inaugural flight.  Big grin

User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4339 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10444 times:

Will it be a nonstop SLC-CDG?
Not a SLC-JFK-CDG or SLC-ATL-CDG using the same flight number? in 763ER all the way?
Regards.



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User currently offlineDelta7004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10410 times:

Nonstop, SLC-CDG, about 10 hours flight time. No going through ATL or JFK. 763ER with BusinessElite from SLC-CDG, the first scheduled nonstop route to Europe in SLC's history.

User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 10013 times:

Quoting Delta7004 (Thread starter):
I've been told at work that the DL big dogs are coming up to SLC tomorrow to make an official SLC-CDG announcement, supposedly to begin on June 1 next year with 763ERs. Just a heads up to keep an eye on the Delta Newsroom tomorrow.

I've got it bookmarked and ready. Also it pays to take a look at the SLC media sites; KSL.com, SLTrib.com, Desnews.com etc...



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9756 times:

Its going to be interesting to see if SLC-CDG becomes a reality....one of our DL experts said weeks ago that August 13 would be the announcement date if DL was to launch the flight and, again, we hear that date, so something is up. We have had many discussions concerning the ""pros and cons"" of this proposed service, lets see what happens.

User currently offlineBoslax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9573 times:

Word is that the SLC-CDG announcement will be made after there is some resolution to the mine accident south of Salt Lake City. Hoping and praying for a safe return home for the miners.

User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9375 times:

what about the runway-based restrictions affecting summer service? As I understood it, the 763 will be unable to operate fully loaded out of SLC in 90+ degree weather at 4500 feet ASL. SLC was planning an extension of 34R/16L, is that still in the works? Will the flight be weight-restricted?

User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9291 times:

Will it be daily service?

if so would it mean a 2 a/c rotation?

from where is DL freeing 2 763's for this one?



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 9193 times:

Quoting Boslax (Reply 6):
Word is that the SLC-CDG announcement will be made after there is some resolution to the mine accident south of Salt Lake City. Hoping and praying for a safe return home for the miners.

 checkmark  A third hole is currently being drilled. Won't know anything until tomorrow AM.



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User currently offlineDelta7004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 9007 times:

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Word is that the SLC-CDG announcement will be made after there is some resolution to the mine accident south of Salt Lake City. Hoping and praying for a safe return home for the miners.

That's what I heard today too. Postponed until the end of this week/beginning of next.

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what about the runway-based restrictions affecting summer service? As I understood it, the 763 will be unable to operate fully loaded out of SLC in 90+ degree weather at 4500 feet ASL. SLC was planning an extension of 34R/16L, is that still in the works? Will the flight be weight-restricted?

That's where DL would probably have to schedule the outbound leg either in the morning, or more probably, in the late evening (like 10-11 PM), unless the runways are lengthened by the time the flights start.

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Will it be daily service?

if so would it mean a 2 a/c rotation?

from where is DL freeing 2 763's for this one?

Well, my guess is probably daily (but we won't know for sure until the official announcement). I wouldn't be surprised to see rotations like JFK-CDG-SLC-CDG-CVG because I doubt they would operate the aircraft domestically from JFK/ATL-SLC and they would need to rotate the planes around other routes somehow, which may work out to possibly just one aircraft extra in the rotation. Since ATL-EDI is going away soon, that 767 will probably find it's way over to SLC-CDG rotations.


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1601 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

wha wha wha!!!!???!! Well isn't this great news. Can't wait to cash in some miles... Hopefully there will be lots of availability when the first announce it. I'm very curious to see how the 763 will rotate, or if it will go JFK-CDG-SLC-CDG-JFK or something like that. I'd love to see it added on from ATL, or JFK (gosh i miss those 763ER flights from JFK-SLC), but like others have said, this will probably not happen.


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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8828 times:

Quoting Delta7004 (Reply 10):
That's where DL would probably have to schedule the outbound leg either in the morning, or more probably, in the late evening (like 10-11 PM), unless the runways are lengthened by the time the flights start.

I dunno about that. If the flight left in the morning, it would get into CDG around 4 or 5 am - not ideal. And if it left that late at night, it would get into CDG very late - which would hurt connections (the very connections this flight would be designed to feed). Plus, it will need to be timed to meet the various banks in SLC.


User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8737 times:
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Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 8):
if so would it mean a 2 a/c rotation?

from where is DL freeing 2 763's for this one?

Guys, the same aircraft that flies SLC-CDG doesn't have to fly back to SLC... it can be used for one of the shorter trans-Atlantic runs like JFK or CVG. So you could take on this route with one aircraft.

Several routes currently flown with the 767-300 can eventually be turned over to the ex-TW 757s.


User currently offlineOsprey88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8640 times:

Quoting MastaHanky (Reply 1):
My credit card is out and ready to book seats on the inaugural flight

As is mine. Hopefully, I'll be able to get some time off then to do this!



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4792 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8509 times:
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Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 8):
from where is DL freeing 2 763's for this one?

Lots of places...not only will the ex-TW 752s replace some existing 763 routes, plus 5 more 764s will be reconfigured for international by next summer, thus freeing up some more 763ERs....


User currently offlineDelta7004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8406 times:

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Lots of places...not only will the ex-TW 752s replace some existing 763 routes, plus 5 more 764s will be reconfigured for international by next summer, thus freeing up some more 763ERs....

Not necessarily, they will be based out of JFK and SLC only, probably for new (or resurrecting) markets like SLC-KOA, JFK-Belfast, JFK-Birmingham, JFK-Keflavik, JFK-Oslo, etc.

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I dunno about that. If the flight left in the morning, it would get into CDG around 4 or 5 am - not ideal. And if it left that late at night, it would get into CDG very late - which would hurt connections (the very connections this flight would be designed to feed). Plus, it will need to be timed to meet the various banks in SLC.

True, but it's hard to say which DL would rather compromise, weight or time. Let's hope SLC decides to lengthen at least one of the runways another 3,000 ft.


User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8336 times:
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Quoting Delta7004 (Reply 16):
Let's hope SLC decides to lengthen at least one of the runways another 3,000 ft.

That is something that would take a couple of years even if they decided today to do it.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8271 times:

Quoting Delta7004 (Reply 16):
they will be based out of JFK and SLC only, probably for new (or resurrecting) markets like SLC-KOA,

That one will probably go LAX-KOA. SLC-OGG will likely go to a 752 when they acheive the 180 ETOPs required for mainland-Hawaii service.

[Edited 2007-08-14 16:12:43]


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User currently offlineWCS From Canada, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Hi,

Any idea if AF will codeshare the flight, providing this rumor turns to be true?



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8089 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 18):
when they acheive the 180 ETOPs required for mainland-Hawaii service.

...which might not take much/any time at all; considering that DL is one of the most ETOPS-experienced airlines out there, and Boeing's come up with some rather crackerjack methods of ushering along the certification process for newly-acquired airframes as well.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4792 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8040 times:
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Quoting WCS (Reply 19):
Any idea if AF will codeshare the flight, providing this rumor turns to be true?

Should be a given....AF and DL codeshare on almost all of each other's USA-France flights (only exception I believe is DTW-CDG where AF and NW codeshare instead).


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 3993 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8040 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 20):
...which might not take much/any time at all; considering that DL is one of the most ETOPS-experienced airlines out there, and Boeing's come up with some rather crackerjack methods of ushering along the certification process for newly-acquired airframes as well.

Many still think the entire fleet of ex-TWA/AA 752's will go to Europe first. But more than likely some of them will make it over to SLC/LAX-Hawaii service over the next year or two as they come on line. Keep in mind that AA uses 752s (RR powered) to get to Hawaii from LAX and NW uses their 753s from SEA to the outer islands (OGG/KOA).



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7958 times:
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Quoting WCS (Reply 19):
Any idea if AF will codeshare the flight, providing this rumor turns to be true?

Without a doubt. The flight will have a very high liklihood of decent loads given the connection opportunities at both ends.


User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7917 times:

Having the flight leave in the late pm (10-11) would be both impractical (for reasons already stated dealing with connections), and wouldn't help the runway cause. Often, temps at those hours are hovering in the low 90s. SLC is an oven in the summer (and an ice box in the winter). Morning lows are typically in the mid-70s only July and August.

25 Post contains links MastaHanky : The rumors are getting stronger ... and the Salt Lake Tribune is pretty reliable... http://www.sltrib.com/ci_6654928
26 BlrBird : " target=_blank>http://www.sltrib.com/ci_6654928 All the grants added together work out around $1.5m, how much does a new route start up cost an airli
27 Post contains images ILOVEA340 : WEll for a major it;'s very expensive if the city is not yet served. if it is already served, then the majority of the investment is in the marketing
28 Delta7004 : " target=_blank>http://www.sltrib.com/ci_6654928 Was about to post that too. It's not rumor at this point, it's gonna happen, just a matter of an anno
29 FLYGUY767 : I have heard the same date announcement was to be on the 13 August, however traditionally arent new TATL routes for the upcoming year announced in th
30 Dutchjet : Sometimes, for spin purposes, the announcement dates are made very early.......CO announced its new CLE-CDG service (for Summer 2008) over a year in
31 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : Dutchjet as always thank you for your information! -JD
32 PSU.DTW.SCE : The general rule is 6 months out for international, 3 months for domestic. As said, sometimes is more to generate more publicity or allow for more adv
33 WorldTraveler : There will be a raft of new DL service announcements SOON! DL knows SLC badly wants European service; DL is smart enough to ask SLC to put something o
34 DeltaL1011man : no DL will be putting Biz class on all of them.....DL has said all 10(and maybe 3 more) will fly from JFK and they will do some JFK-ATL turns for MX
35 Post contains links SLCUT2777 : Even the more conservative Deseret News has wind of this one: http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695201835,00.html Quite interestingly this articl
36 DAL767400ER : Gotta wonder what that number is based on. Sure can't be 14 larger cities that currently don't have any CDG flights, as I strongly doubt they'd even
37 MCOAviationFan : Correct! DL normally announces International spring expansion in October. Expect an announcement sometime mid October regarding where the 757ETOPS wi
38 Dutchjet : That is an odd number.......and why would DL pass skip over 14 ""better opportunities"" and launch SLC-CDG? Of course, the only reason why DL may lau
39 MCOAviationFan : Dutchjet, I cannot provide a link or printed confirmation, but according to my contacts which have been 100% reliable in the past, the number is inde
40 WorldTraveler : you are free to doubt... but DL is the one that is putting their resources at risk and they do know what they are doing. It will do very well.
41 SLCUT2777 : Keep in mind that communities like PIT which have lost any and all trans-Atlantic service are playing this economic subsidy card hard to carriers lik
42 PSU.DTW.SCE : PIT approached NW to discuss PIT-AMS 752 service. One can assume that NW would want an enormous incentive package to make such a route work. MEM-AMS
43 Dutchjet : Thanks, I did not realize that I needed your permission. Where did I say that Delta did not know what it was doing....it MAY launch a new route from
44 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : Totally Agree.. Most Angelenos and San Franciscans that I know want nonstop service, as both are mixed markets with both business and leisure demand.
45 Panamair : What's PIS?
46 Dutchjet : Pisa....which is PSA...sorry, that wasnt very elegant, was it?
47 Panamair : No, but what's wrong with JFK-Pisa?
48 Dutchjet : I heard from a credible source (which I cannot disclose, sorry) that the route is not meeting its targets. Nothing more, nothing less.
49 SLCUT2777 : Keep in mind that NYC customers can get TATL service from nearby EWR on CO or JFK on DL given that LGA is a slot/perimeter controlled airport. MDW ha
50 FlyPNS1 : I don't think even DL is confident it will do well, which is why they are demanding huge upfront subsidies in order to launch this route. If DL was s
51 UAL777UK : So it looks like this rumour of the new flight has in fact been nothing more than a rumour as 7 days later after it was apparently going to be announc
52 Dutchjet : I am not sure about that.....first, there was the mining disaster in Utah; the media was understandably focused on those events and the route announc
53 Post contains images Jetlanta : They are more confident than all of this would indicate. Just applying good business practices.
54 LAXdude1023 : I certainly hope that this is more than a rumor. I think DL could do well on this route. SLC-CDG would fall in line with DL's international "out of th
55 MSYtristar : I've heard from some folks here in ATL (from several people, actually) that DL is looking at linking CDG from a couple of U.S markets which currently
56 FLYGUY767 : Wouldnt that be cities such as: Hartford Orlando Raleigh -JD
57 SESGDL : FLL-CDG has been rumored for the longest while. Of all of these possibilities, I'd say FLL-CDG is the strongest. We shall see... Jeremy
58 DAL767400ER : Would that actually be a new rumor, or the same old rumor about MSY/FLL/BOS-CDG, which DL was actually poised to announce had 9-11 not happened?
59 FLYGUY767 : With the daily Air France 747-400 from Miami, I doubt that would be a reality unless Delta has a 767-300 with time to burn.. -JD
60 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Lemme guess....MSY is one of them
61 Post contains images FLYGUY767 : Now the statement by MSYTristar is seeming to make sense... -JD
62 MSYtristar : Damnit you guys figured out the joke already?! Jeez, I need to work on my act!
63 Post contains images MaverickM11 : That's the same number I came up with. Of those other 14 better opportunities, DL has hubs at 0 of them .
64 LAXdude1023 : My first thought would be Florida, since (outside ATL) I believe that is going to the be the largest concentration of Skymiles members. Outside Flori
65 MSYtristar : In all honesty, I work with people who spent a lot of years at DL in various roles, so they are still "in" the rumor circle I guess, and I do hear FL
66 FLYGUY767 : Which more than likely means they without an Air France/Delta Air Lines agreement similar to the NW/KL agreement seem near improbable to occur. The u
67 RL757PVD : BDL-CDG would be do able on a ETOPS 757, but I think it would only be sucessful at the expense of NW's BDL-AMS
68 FLYGUY767 : MSYTristar, I have no doubt that a few years down the road when New Orleans is back on its feet and is again able to draw more business and tourism i
69 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Isn't the main runway at FLL less than 10,000'? Wouldn't this likewise cause problems for a Europe bound 763ER? I know having a runway less than 10,0
70 DAL767400ER : I'm not sure it would have even lasted that long, as IIRC, the routing was heavily dependant on the DFW start, and with the dehubbing of DFW, I'm not
71 Post contains links Panamair : Well, here's more indication of an SLC-CDG route next year as well as the relaunch of JFK-LYS (no doubt with DL's 752 ETOPS)....sorry, article (about
72 FLYGUY767 : Northwest Airlines has large pools of Frequent Flyers in both the New York and Boston markets. As New York previously served as an Asian gateway for
73 Post contains links LIPZ : Utah approves $250,000 for Delta flights to Europe "We plan on having an announcement about our 2008 international flight (from Salt Lake) in the next
74 Panamair : For the record, that wasn't my quote....
75 FLYGUY767 : Airliners.net hiccup the quote was from... DAL767400ER -JD
76 SESGDL : NW routinely does 744 flights from MSP-NRT on a 10,000 foot runway, at a higher elevation than FLL, so there would be zero problems with a full-weigh
77 WesternA318 : Umm, the Mormon Church perhaps? American Express, Discover, Oracle, Morton Thiokol, Northrop Grumman, Boeing (they have quite a few offices out here)
78 Post contains links and images SLCUT2777 : The LDS Church has cut back their missionary operations in Europe for well over a decade now. Perhaps the outdoor and ski industry retailers will fin
79 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Do they even have a widebody capable international gate? Last I remember the international "gate" was off of the RJ concourse. And the customs and im
80 WesternA318 : LMAO, not with the Brasilias nested 10 feet away, lol...
81 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Tell us about it! Signed, AeroMexico Well, most pax would probably never see the terminal from the outside anyway .
82 BNinMSY : A Boeing 767 from MSY to CDG or AMS would rock ... there is a great deal of oil/crew change/tourism traffic .. it would seem logical in a matter of 2-
83 MastaHanky : Today's Salt Lake Tribune says Ed Bastian is going to be in SLC today to "discuss Delta's plans to add direct flights from Utah to Europe". Stupid tea
84 PSU.DTW.SCE : There is no Skyteam AMS service to PHL, DEN, PHX, DFW, PDX, etc.......MSY would be very far down on that list. MSY is nowhere near ready for daily, s
85 MSYtristar : I agree, although the demand is there for the service. Scheduled international airlines are generally still spooked by what happened there two years
86 ConcordeBoy : ...based on? Eh, we said that about FRA too-- and Lufty chose them over both MSP and us.
87 SaturnV : The customs and international arrivals building was built in the mid 90's when it looked like Delta was going to start a SLC LGW flight. The internati
88 Post contains images Rookinla : But I would be surprised to see MSY before MCO gets CDG service from DL or AF. Also, do you really think that there is enough O&D to make the route w
89 MSYtristar : To be totally honest, MCO would absolutely come before MSY. Not even close. But after working in that airport for 5 years, I can attest to the demand
90 MSYtristar : Well, a big part of the problem is that the state of LA doesn't ever seem to ever CONSIDER offering incentives for international service, as so many
91 Rookinla : I completely agree...That's one way that MCO hooked LH...and hopefully AF in the future. New Orleans is a great city that I have really enjoyed visit
92 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...but that's yet another testament to this region's bass-ackwards way of doing thing things: with areas such as RDU, PDX, etc; while the government/
93 Post contains links Panamair : Well, it's 10 days late but here's the official press release: http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/070823/125519.html
94 MaverickM11 : SLC has a hub and a lot of cash. MSY has neither.
95 ConcordeBoy : City doesn't, but the metro and state certainly do-- about $1B more than was expected. They could cough up if they were competent. If.
96 MSYtristar : The sad thing is if you ask a resident in Paris (or the EU in general) about what city they would rather visit, New Orleans or Salt Lake City, they w
97 PSU.DTW.SCE : " target=_blank>http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/070823/12551....html Lost in the MSY whine and cheese party, the official announcement has now been made. Just
98 RobertS975 : 763ER flights starting June 2 2008: DL 170 SLC 5pm CDG 11:05am +1 DL 171 CDG 10:20am SLC 1:50pm
99 MSYtristar : Whoopdee-freaking-doo! Already posted above! Is there any other choice? My congrats goes out to those cities because they are located in states which
100 Post contains images LAXdude1023 : Congrats to SLC!!! I hope DL can make a decent run at the route and hopefully it will be a success!!! You dont sound bitter at all. I cant think of wh
101 Post contains images MSYtristar : Not really bitter at DL or at SLC even, just with our lame ass state...every time I hear another mid-sized market getting a Euro flight, it just make
102 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...to which someone standing next to them would probably respond with "don't you remember, the place where Olaf/Franz/Phillipe won a medal in 2002".
103 Post contains images MSYtristar : Ah yes, the memories of the Olympics, I forgot about that. That is certainly true. But I know French people, they'd easily prefer an evening of jazz
104 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...yeah, how's that lookin' about now?
105 MaverickM11 : I'm not so sure about that...Euros *love* the desert.
106 MSYtristar : It's looking like the Trump Tower New Orleans: not gunna happen! Oh I'm not doubting that there won't be some Euros taking a vacation to explore Utah
107 Jetlanta : My friend, with all due respect, you are completely ignoring the actual business case of this. No amount of money the city or the state can put up wi
108 MSYtristar : It's nice to hear from someone who has knowledge on the subject, and I have little doubt that if some airline wanted to fly to MSY from Europe, they
109 ConcordeBoy : Thing is though, from what I've been able to discern: the O&D between Louisiana and LON and FRA is actually greater than PAR. ..or CUN (network sched
110 Post contains images MSYtristar : AMS is up there....that's the flight I was talking about....we were running a 12:10pm DC-9 to DTW and plenty of times half the plane was connecting t
111 Post contains images WesternA318 : I've bought meself the one-way bizclass to CDG, KLM to AMS, then the NW A332 to MEM, and CO MEM-IAH-SLC. Now THIS'LL be fun! First time going with my
112 MSYtristar : Hey man, congrats! Paris has endless oppurtunities for popping the question. Might be the best place on the planet for doing that.
113 WesternA318 : *grins* thankyewverymuch, although my idea of a romantic time IS in 1st class across the pond, lol, I just might ask on the way there, being the geek
114 Post contains images MSYtristar : Well, wait until you're on the ground in CDG at least. That will count.
115 Post contains images MastaHanky : Let me know what seat you're in and I'll drop by and say hi. I'm trying to round up a friend or two to go myself; I'll probably book this weekend.
116 Post contains images WesternA318 : Hmm, on the way to customs? Just kidding...
117 Jetlanta : But Transatlantic service is supported by premium traffic cabin, and there would be very little in MSY. The other thing is that no nonstop service is
118 WesternA318 : Ahh, it WOULD be nice to spend the flight with a few more friends!!
119 MaverickM11 : I think demand for MSY to Europe is right behind that of RSW to Europe.
120 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Funny thing, many including myself have said that about SLC, but nearly 30 years ago which city ended up taking the others NBA team? Which is why onc
121 Post contains images Jetlanta : Do you make this stuff up as you go? Seriously, Grinstein had next to nothing to do with this decision. He simply doesn't get involved in network mat
122 ConcordeBoy : not sure what inane point you're going for... though keep in mind that RSW has maintained nonstop service to Europe for years.
123 Post contains images MaverickM11 : The problem is few airlines other than BA can offer meaningful connections over LON. You can hope for LTU service, at best
124 Post contains images MSYtristar : I don't know that you can say that for sure. On the same token, I am not involved in the business community of New Orleans, nor do I know how many co
125 MaverickM11 : I always wondered why it was the Utah Jazz, seeing as there's nothing "jazz" about Utah (or Canadian regional jet providers either for that matter)
126 ConcordeBoy : ...whatever works. Hell, aside from LH, MP is the Euro-carrier to show the next highest amount of interest in MSY
127 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : No. Several people have told me that (DL employees) and many of the SLC (both the S.L. Tribune and Deseret News) papers likewise have pointed this ou
128 ConcordeBoy : ...which, in keeping with the other poster's assertion, was little more than an afterthought once the decision had been made to 86 that hub.
129 MaverickM11 : SLC is actually a pretty great place, and Mormonisms aside, could be the next DEN.
130 Post contains links and images SLCUT2777 : But "the Mormonism" is still a very big stigma SLC must overcome, especially when one comes here for the first time and sees how this place operates.
131 WesternA318 : They did to LGW and FRA, as well as to CDG I believe all axed when Mullin took control. Ick, give the stingers back to Charlotte! Isn't that also why
132 MaverickM11 : When? Not after 1996....
133 WorldTraveler : DL never flew to any city in Europe besides FRA from DFW. SLC will do very well for DL as long as the airport doesn't get greedy and try to spend bil
134 RobertS975 : It sure ain't dry in the SLC Crown Room!
135 Gunsontheroof : Kept the name when the team moved from New Orleans (if you already knew that and where asking why it was kept, I apologize for telling you what you a
136 WesternA318 : LMAO, never been in there...
137 WorldTraveler : notice also that DL says they will have the capacity to carry 5 tons of cargo on the route. So much for those people who thought that DL would not eve
138 SLCUT2777 : I don't think the city Department of Airports will authorize a huge expense, BUT they do need to get away from the band-aid approaches they've been t
139 WesternA318 : The las major terminal expansion on T-2 was what, back when Western added the D concourse?
140 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : 1978 is when T-2 was completed and opened by Western, and 1984 is when the D concourse opened. In reality, the present facility is built to handle 10
141 WesternA318 : SLCUT2777, Do you know anything about Western's 767-200 order back in the early 1980's?
142 SLCUT2777 : I've heard about it, but nothing really specific. Probably BrettDespain might know more since his father flew for Western.
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