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Jet To Launch Delhi-Toronto Via Brussels  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8085 times:

Jet Airways to launch Delhi-Toronto via Brussels service.
http://indiaaviation.aero/news/index...ontent&task=view&id=4353&Itemid=59

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Jet Airways announced the introduction of a new flight linking Delhi with Toronto via Brussels, five times a week.This flight will also give Jet Airways passengers an opportunity to connect to New York (Newark) via its Hub in Brussels. At Brussels, flights will be synchoronized in order to provide passengers transfer access between Delhi and Newark and Mumbai & Toronto.

Jet Airways will operate the Delhi – Brussels – Toronto flight with an Airbus 330-200 aircraft, which has been especially configured for international operations with 30 seats in Premiere Class and 190 seats in the Economy Class. The new Première lie flat beds represent the absolute latest in airline seat technology. Featuring a 73” bed length, that electronically converts to an enormous 180 degree flat bed with lumbar support and massage systems. The new economy seat has a seat pitch of 32”.

The state-of-the-art In-Flight Panasonic eX2 Entertainment system offers passengers over 200 hours of Hollywood and Bollywood movies, regional films, television and short programming, audio CD’s covering every music genre; all on demand and all heard through Bose noise cancellation headphones.

Flight 9W 226 will take off from Delhi, Indira Gandhi International Airport at 0245hrs and will arrive at Brussels International Airport at 0800 hrs. This flight will then depart from Brussels International Airport at 0955 hrs and will arrive in Totonto International Airport at 1215 hrs. The flight will operate daily except Tuesday and Thursday.

From Toronto International Airport, 9W 225 will depart at 2015 hrs and will arrives at Brussels International Airport at 0955 hrs. This flight will then depart from Brussels International Airport at 1155 hrs and reach Delhi, Indira Gandhi International Airport at 2335 hrs.

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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7842 times:

From another news report, the DEL-BRU-YYZ service is expected to start on Sept. 5.

User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7842 times:

The departures and arrivals are very well timed....2015 departure and 1215 arrival at YYZ...the timings on the BOM/DEL side are also equally good....hope this flight does well for 9W..... smile 

User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7659 times:

It's rumoured this route will soon switch to a 77W when 9W move the 330 to serve "a southern city" - either BLR or MAA.


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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7615 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 3):
t's rumoured this route will soon switch to a 77W when 9W move the 330 to serve "a southern city" - either BLR or MAA.

If their investors conference is to be believed it will be BLR.

karan


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7593 times:

I am really curios to see how things will unfold at BRU now that both 9W and EY are establishing a larger presence there.

This particular announcement is good news for me, now my only question becomes whether to choose YYZ-AUH-KTM on EY or YYZ-BRU-DEL-KTM on 9W this winter.

YOWza



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
This particular announcement is good news for me, now my only question becomes whether to choose YYZ-AUH-KTM on EY

Anything is better than transiting at DEL! Go with EY  Smile



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 6):
Anything is better than transiting at DEL! Go with EY

I've heard that but it would be a nice change. I'm a little sick of transiting in the GCC

YOWza



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

With the use of Brussels as an intermediate point, will pax be able to interchange on flights?

ie. is 9W going to establish BRU as the base, so that DEL-BRU-YYZ flights connect with BOM-BRU-JFK, BLR-BRU-ORD etc or any other flights they launch in the future?

Makes a lot more sense to connect over BRU then force domestic connections within India IMO.


User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7277 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 8):
With the use of Brussels as an intermediate point, will pax be able to interchange on flights?

ie. is 9W going to establish BRU as the base, so that DEL-BRU-YYZ flights connect with BOM-BRU-JFK, BLR-BRU-ORD etc or any other flights they launch in the future?

Makes a lot more sense to connect over BRU then force domestic connections within India IMO.

In short, yes. Brussels will be used as a scissor hub


User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4179 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7264 times:
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Quoting YOWza (Reply 5):
EY are establishing a larger presence there.

What larger presence is EY establishing in BRU ? I thought it was just a (daily ?) flight. Granted, for BRU, that may be large, but still.



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7250 times:

Now that 9W is establishing BRU as a hub, will they still want to fly their own services to UK points outside London. BRU would be a good point to transfer onto codeshare flights operated by SN Brussels to MAN/BHX etc. Will SN codeshare on the 9W flights?

User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7051 times:

Will 9W have fifth freedom rights on the BRU-YYZ leg?

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7039 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 10):
What larger presence is EY establishing in BRU ? I thought it was just a (daily ?) flight. Granted, for BRU, that may be large, but still.

Well speculation is that EY will tack on a leg to some/all of the BRU flights to enter another market quickly using the already stretched resources available to them. This is now possible as YYZ-BRU is now direct.

YOWza



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User currently offlineVinniewinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7021 times:

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 11):
Now that 9W is establishing BRU as a hub, will they still want to fly their own services to UK points outside London. BRU would be a good point to transfer onto codeshare flights operated by SN Brussels to MAN/BHX etc. Will SN codeshare on the 9W flights?

Yes they will codeshare on a number of routes! Think they will still want to at some point... There are currently huge discussions about Brussels airlines premium service for european flights! Apparently it is not well liked since it is more economy + than Business class! One wonders whether a tired business class passsengers will want to 1) connect to another flight 2) Enjoy fairly limited service on the Brussels Airlines leg of their trip....


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6955 times:
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Great news for BRU since we lost that YYZ connection with EY. A switch from the A330 to a 777 in mid-term would not surprise me at all.

Everyone was expecting the official news. BRU will indeed be used as a scissor hub.
I have heard that Jet's lounge facilities are really impressive here !! Separate F and C class lounges...  smile 

I'm just a bit surprised to see that 9W will ground its A332 for 8 hours in YYZ.

Now "busy" BRU waits for the BLR-BRU-ORD link !  cheerful 

FB.



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User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6912 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
I'm just a bit surprised to see that 9W will ground its A332 for 8 hours in YYZ.

Well it is surprising.

i know its probably not going to happen or even possible for 9W to consider continuing this flight to YVR??!! Isn't it something like 8th freedom right??? just a suggestion rather than park the plane at YYZ for almost half a day.



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User currently offlineVincewy From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6894 times:

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 16):
i know its probably not going to happen or even possible for 9W to consider continuing this flight to YVR??!! Isn't it something like 8th freedom right??? just a suggestion rather than park the plane at YYZ for almost half a day.

The 8 hour stop is actually needed for the aircraft to rest, if you look at the schedule in DEL, it'll have to turn around in 3 hours for the next flight.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6872 times:
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Quoting YOW (Reply 12):
Will 9W have fifth freedom rights on the BRU-YYZ leg?

They have full 5th freedom rights on BRU-Canada/USA market.

FB.



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6853 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
Now "busy" BRU waits for the BLR-BRU-ORD link ! cheerful

Is that a "wish-list" or a rumor or a "confirmed" flight?

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 15):
I have heard that Jet's lounge facilities are really impressive here !! Separate F and C class lounges...

Any one with pictures?



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User currently offlineJlk From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6721 times:

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 18):
Quoting YOW (Reply 12):
Will 9W have fifth freedom rights on the BRU-YYZ leg?

They have full 5th freedom rights on BRU-Canada/USA market.

The way 9W is investing in BRU, I believe they can get 5th freedom from BRU to any country they want.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

Quoting Jlk (Reply 20):
The way 9W is investing in BRU, I believe they can get 5th freedom from BRU to any country they want.

Provided their air services agreement between India and the 3rd country involved also includes 5th freedom rights.


User currently offlineVtnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

Quoting Vincewy (Reply 17):

The 8 hour stop is actually needed for the aircraft to rest

Will my respect rating increase if I don't respond to this????



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User currently offlineJlk From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6245 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
Provided their air services agreement between india and the 3rd country involved also includes 5th freedom rights.

I think the 3rd country cannot control the 5th freedom bilateral with the intermediate country. Can you provide an example of a bilateral that limits a carrier's 5th freedom rights from an intermediate stop?

In a A->B->C route,
the A->C bilateral usually limits the traffic rights to C from A and doesn't govern if the intermediate stop is B or B1 or B2 and what treaties are in place between A & B.


User currently offlineVTMAA From India, joined Oct 2006, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6238 times:

Quoting Jlk (Reply 23):
In a A->B->C route,
the A->C bilateral usually limits the traffic rights to C from A and doesn't govern if the intermediate stop is B or B1 or B2 and what treaties are in place between A & B.

But what will happen to traffic carried by say Jet between B and C will this fall under B and C's agreement or A and C's agreement?


25 Viscount724 : My point was that the person posting the message I responded to seemed to imply that it was only the India-Belgium bilateral that would determine whe
26 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Planes need a good lunch and a warm bed tto, just like us....  I guess what he means is that the plane would be subjected to certain maintenance and
27 Vincewy : What's wrong with this quote? I thought it was a legit comment, the aircraft is stretched to the limit of over 16 hr/per 24 hr period.
28 Jlk : Well.. isn't this the 5th freedom that Belgium would have no problem granting to 9W. So in this case if 9W desires and if Belgium obliges there is no
29 Post contains links Viscount724 : Except the India-Canada bilateral specifies what points can be served between India and Canada. Belgium is not restricted so there is no problem for
30 Post contains links Blrsea : Jet might shelve plan for Blore-Toronto flight
31 Flybhx764 : Just wondering, where did this A330 come from? I thought 9W never had many?
32 Vtnyc : Just a cheeky comment. It's a waste of resources to have a multi million aircraft on the ground doing nothing. The few hours at turnaround are more t
33 Pnwtraveler : There are ads already in the paper touting the new first class suites. I am looking forward to seeing another top drawer airline at yyz,
34 Flying lsd : why advert about first class suites in yyz? a332 do th ejob to yyz in 2 class configuration! business ( called premiere) and coach class.
35 Amritpal : nthing for YVR, it seems like?
36 Gr8Circle : Somehow, I too recall the 9W ad that appeared in the Toronto Star couple of days back speaking about First, Premiere and Economy..maybe I'm wrong....
37 FLYACYYZ : Technically, they are offering first class to BOM (kind of, sort of), on the cross connection at BRU. As such, they will probably have a calculated f
38 Post contains links Blrsea : Jet to fly Chennai-Brussels-Newark flight
39 Flying lsd : and what about th eexisting bombay -brussels -newark? don't see double daily to Newark because all flight are syncronised to brussels in this case 2 p
40 Gr8Circle : I think it possibly may be just a MAA-BRU flight, providing feed to the EWR flight and the YYZ flight....so there will probably be a single flight in
41 Jlk : I thought it is a MAA-BRU flight that connects to the BRU-EWR flight from BOM. Isn't that the case? Are there two separate flights getting into EWR?
42 Scorpio : That should be the JFK flight. Probably a typo or something.
43 Post contains links Blrsea : Jet set to fly Madrid, Birmingham, Geneva
44 Post contains images Mk777 : So 9W will now fly to GVA or will it be SN codeshare? If 9W is flying to GVA, then maybe they could continue on to IAD from there if they will be all
45 SNBru : The Jet Airways code share partner in brussels is Brussels Airlines. Did they reach a deal yet, because no flights are offered yet on the Brussels Air
46 Scorpio : SN codeshare: Flights to ORD from BRU are in the plans of 9W.
47 Pnwtraveler : Yes the ads have been in the Toronto Star and do definitely show all three classes. I was told they will be using Terminal 1. Those gates already seem
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