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CO And IAH Terminal D  
User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 616 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

CO and IAH Terminal D

Yesterday, to my surprise my Continental Express flight said D1. When I first saw this I thought it was a mistake therefore when I landed at IAH I asked the representative and they said D1 is right. This was a flight to DAL. I saw CO Express using gates all the way up to D6. I was talking to the gate agent and she said they started using this recently and that she thinks Continental will be using D for a while to come. She said it was used as overflow before, but now she said it is being used daily.

Does anyone know:
How long is Continental Express going to be using Terminal D?
When did Continental Express start flying out of Terminal D?
Does this mean Continental now operates flights out of all the Terminals at IAH?

Oh while I was there, another flight had a gate change to Terminal B and another added to D. This is really going to suck for people having gate changes to go from B to D or D to B. Otherwise, I loved being over at D. It makes connections so much easier from C/E, quiet, less crowded, and you get the added bonus of watching Air France, British Airways, KLM, and Lufthansa wide bodies.








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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5271 times:

I think it has to do with construction at Terminal B, they are replacing the banjo concourses with linear concourses ala Terminal A. One of the IAH guys will have the details.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5252 times:

COEX international arrivals have been using D1-D4ish for many years to allow for passengers to clear customs, primarily from Mexician cities. After the passengers deplaned, the aircraft was towed over to B or the hardstands.

Due to the reduction in gates on B during reconstruction, COEX is now using these gates for departures.


User currently offlineJustlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5238 times:
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Although they normally utilize the remote parking directly in front of Terminal D at IAH, COEX RJs have routinely parked at the 'D' gates for several years. Gates D1 through D4a are controlled by CO, however, I have recently seen COEX aircraft parked at D6 and D7 as well. These aircraft are normally the flights that were inbound from destinations in Mexico and continue onward to U.S. cities.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5225 times:

This is all in preparation of the reconstruction of Terminal B. South Concourse is coming down first and then rebuilt - then the North Concourse - I believe the whole terminal will be ready 2011-2012.


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User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

Thanks for the input. I talked to the gate agent for a while, (she was not the one working my flight). I talked to the agents in B all the time too. This agent did not know anything about Continental Express and she told me she never works Continental Express. The gate agents working these flights are out of Terminal C and she said they never bid for B (high up the list in seniority) therefore they never work Continental Express. Many of the passengers were also asking questions to make sure this was the right flight because they have never flow out of D. (The KLM flight number stuck up on the board didn't help either) Everyone I talked to said they never flown out of D.

The gate agent for my flight did not even ask for Elite Access boarding. She started with the back of the plane. I question her and she said she forgot, since there wasn’t a First Class and all she forgot about Elite Customers. She also does not work Continental Express. Besides that, I LOVE Terminal D and will take that ANYDAY over B. I walked down and looked at KLM, Air France, British Airways, Lufthansa, and Peter Max was also there at Terminal E of course.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5142 times:

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 5):
Many of the passengers were also asking questions to make sure this was the right flight because they have never flow out of D. (The KLM flight number stuck up on the board didn't help either) Everyone I talked to said they never flown out of D.

That's right, it was quite rare for COex to depart D. Arrive D? Sure. But depart, no. D1-D6 were generally used for 737 ops and international arrivals. This was necessary (the 737 ops) both before Terminal E was complete, and while IAH was renovating each wing of Terminal C (cutting down on gates). Now all those projects are finished. But as others have said, there's a COex gate shortage due to over loading (lots of hardstands, too), and now B being rebuilt. COex had also spilled over into Terminal A...

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 5):
I question her and she said she forgot, since there wasn’t a First Class and all she forgot about Elite Customers. She also does not work Continental Express.

Okay.



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User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4976 times:

I almost got lucky when I was travelled on CO from IND -IAH, when we landed and we were supposed to go to one of gate at Terminal D but somehow last minutes they changed gate to Terminal C. One of my grandma was lucky because she left on CO back to IND, her plane left at D3 I think. I always want to arrival or depature out of D to experience it.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4905 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 7):
One of my grandma was lucky because she left on CO back to IND, her plane left at D3 I think. I always want to arrival or depature out of D to experience it.

It's the worst mainline experience at IAH. You aren't missing much...



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User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

The responses gave me more questions:

Since construction of B is going to take a while, will CO decorate the gates in D with CO signage and information?

With CO mainline at C/E and CO Express at B and now D and (A?), will IAH run out of gate space for new airlines? Is CO occupying everything that is left?

I know E is the “International Terminal”, but why is CO the only airline using it?
Did CO pay for part of the construction?

Speaking of International Terminal, it is usually the first and last thing people see when visiting a country. IAH has plenty of international airlines service (compared to DFW) yet they fly out of D (IAH) which is not the worst Terminal in the world but by no means something to be proud of. (Just realized Terminal D at DFW & IAH is where International Airlines are located) Will IAH build a “NEW” International Terminal for International Airlines? Or will D be rebuilt as a domestic Terminal where CO can move domestic flights from E to new D and E truly become the International Terminal?

If so are they going to replace D, and when will that be?
Since D is the “international terminal” couldn’t CO Express fly their international departures out of there instead of B? When I was at the D gates, all the CO Express flights were domestic.



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User currently offlineNateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 9):
The responses gave me more questions:

Since construction of B is going to take a while, will CO decorate the gates in D with CO signage and information?

With CO mainline at C/E and CO Express at B and now D and (A?), will IAH run out of gate space for new airlines? Is CO occupying everything that is left?

I know E is the “International Terminal”, but why is CO the only airline using it?
Did CO pay for part of the construction?

Speaking of International Terminal, it is usually the first and last thing people see when visiting a country. IAH has plenty of international airlines service (compared to DFW) yet they fly out of D (IAH) which is not the worst Terminal in the world but by no means something to be proud of. (Just realized Terminal D at DFW & IAH is where International Airlines are located) Will IAH build a “NEW” International Terminal for International Airlines? Or will D be rebuilt as a domestic Terminal where CO can move domestic flights from E to new D and E truly become the International Terminal?

If so are they going to replace D, and when will that be?
Since D is the “international terminal” couldn’t CO Express fly their international departures out of there instead of B? When I was at the D gates, all the CO Express flights were domestic.

Here are the current master plans for the major Houston airports: http://www.fly2houston.com/iahMasterPlan

The brochures have a nice summary with a map of all near and long term planned improvements.



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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 7):
I almost got lucky when I was travelled on CO from IND -IAH, when we landed and we were supposed to go to one of gate at Terminal D but somehow last minutes they changed gate to Terminal C. One of my grandma was lucky because she left on CO back to IND, her plane left at D3 I think. I always want to arrival or depature out of D to experience it.

The difference with D is that some gates require you to go down a series of looping ramps (or in the case of D12, a labryinth which includes riding down an escalator and negotiating a series of hallways making sure you do not enter customs) prior to entering the jetway. I think gates D1-D3 are the standard jetways attached to the boarding area directly.


User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3436 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4815 times:
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Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 11):
think gates D1-D3 are the standard jetways attached to the boarding area directly.

D1-3 were C1-3 before D (then called IAB) was built. D4-12 were added on, and C 4-17 were renumbered C14-27

[Edited 2007-08-14 10:23:09]


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 10):
The brochures have a nice summary with a map of all near and long term planned improvements.

Cool. No way project ever goes beyond the near term plan, and even then, not to that extent. Don't see the concourse between C and B happening, nor the connection of all the terminals via structures (the train will extend to A, that's all), and at most, only one of the concourses on D, since international expansion by non-CO airlines is just not going to warrant it any time soon.

But overall, if you look at the size of E, the concourses all seem to thin, a throwback to the crowded designs of 20 years ago. Any new mainline concourses will be as "thick" as E's two wings.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6766 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 12):
D1-3 were C1-3 before D (then called IAB) was built. D4-12 were added on, and C 4-17 were renumbered C14-27

 checkmark  You're showing your age. C1-C3 were the international gates in Terminal C before Terminal IAB was built; Terminal B also had international gates, but I don't recall in which "flight station."

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
It's the worst mainline experience at IAH. You aren't missing much...

Part of the problem with Terminal D is that it gets so little use these days, so there's not much of a reason to pour money into refurbishing the facility. It really is a ghost town until the European carriers depart in the afternoon. And there's probably a bit of desire on HAS's part to let the hometown airline have the nicer facilities...

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13):
if you look at the size of E, the concourses all seem to thin

The North & South Concourses of Terminal A are about the right width; the concourses are fairly short so there's not much of a need for moving sidewalks. The biggest thing A sees these days is probably a 757, if that.


User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3436 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4671 times:
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Quoting ScottB (Reply 14):
You're showing your age. C1-C3 were the international gates in Terminal C before Terminal IAB was built

Yes I am...  old  ... but I still recall that C43-46 were the FIS arrivals before D/IAB. The FIS space became C47; the hardstand for CoEx for several years until they moved over to B.



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User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 725 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

The CoEx flights operating out of Terminal D were/are not because of reconstruction of the "banjos" of Terminal B... at least not yet... they are currently for the re-design of the Hardstands that are with Terminal B... they finally have finished the first part of that and should be working on Phase 2 and it is scheduled to be completed by October.... basically No more buses and pretty much all covered walkways....

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