DeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 20032 times:
Quoting RichM (Reply 1): and in my opinion it just looks odd.
Not uncommon to feel that way when things change drastically. Also not uncommon is something like this looking totally normal years from now and what we think looks good now will be percieved as dated.
Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
CruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 19690 times:
I love it, it is clean, uncluttered and the displayes are HUGE. I also love the HUD's. I could never understand how HUD's became pretty much the standard for military applications, yet not so for civil applications.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 19206 times:
Now thats what I call a Volvo cockpit or very luxurious. It looks very cozy. Do the seats come equipped with heaters?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 21029 posts, RR: 60 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18705 times:
Quoting Khobar (Reply 3): You can tell some long hours are being invested in the project - that guy at the controls looks like he's been up way way past bedtime three days ago.
Nah, that's just how the chicks dig the hair these days. "I'm a slacker who just rolled out of bed and didn't bother to shower. Aren't I hot?"
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18426 times:
Skyexramper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 18026 times:
Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 11): Where are the steam-driven back-up instruments?
The same place they are on a lot the other newer planes....long gone. Most planes have mini PFDs installed to replace the old mechanical airspeed, attitude indicators and altimeter. Also there is a flight director so there is no need for a nav aid backup.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 17968 times:
Grantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 17824 times:
Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 9): I'm just glad they went with gray instead of that abhorrent brown. This looks much better then the 777 cockpit for example.
That awful brown used to remind me of the ancient WWII era (or so it felt) steel desk I used to sit at in a converted warehouse when i first signed on as an engineer at Boeing - when desks were organized in long rows and our physical address was expressed as a column number. It always struck me how similar a Boeing flightdeck felt to the engineering office spaces. At least the flightdeck computers weren't powered by extension cords hanging down from the ceilings.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 17762 times:
Quoting CruzinAltitude (Reply 4): I also love the HUD's. I could never understand how HUD's became pretty much the standard for military applications, yet not so for civil applications.
It's a cost thing. HUDs cost money and are normally not needed in commercial ops. Many military pilots need to keep the target and flight data in view at the same time, for example in combat. Civilian pilots have time to look down. The HUD helps of course.
Nowadays, the price of a HUD has come down to the point that this previous nice to have is becoming standard.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo
Grantcv From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 429 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 17085 times:
Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 17): ......but does it have somewhere to plug in your charger for a mobile phone?
If I were piloting a 787, I would also demand an iPod connector to play my tunes.
Thebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16856 times:
Quoting RichM (Reply 1): The 787 cockpit looks like what you'd expect in a space craft, and in my opinion it just looks odd.
Looks are subjective. Personally, I love the look of the new cockpit. It's clean, modern and "all business." The fact it looks like it belongs in a space craft is icing on the cake.
Someone posted earlier, and I agree, that the design will most likely endure far longer than that of previous (and most current) designs. I love it!
OldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3206 posts, RR: 66 Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16470 times:
DeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16336 times:
Quoting Grantcv (Reply 18): I would also demand an iPod connector to play my tunes.
Simple, remove headset, insert Ipod, how many speakers does the 787 cabin have? And does it have subs?
Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
Nuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 206 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16261 times:
Is boeing ever going to put a tray table in for the pilots???
Thebry From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16102 times:
Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 21): Quoting Grantcv (Reply 18):
I would also demand an iPod connector to play my tunes.
Simple, remove headset, insert Ipod, how many speakers does the 787 cabin have? And does it have subs?
Yeah, but the headset jack isn't the "true" audio-out for the iPod. To get the highest quality sound output (and remote control features) you've got to use the dock connector on the bottom of the iPod -- hence the need for an in-dash iPod connector. I've got this setup on my BMW and LOVE it. The sound quality is way better than what I'd get through the headphone jack.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15870 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 15366 times:
Quoting Nuggetsyl (Reply 22): Is boeing ever going to put a tray table in for the pilots???
Well, there is a serious issue here. The Airbus table is rated for the weight of a French flight attendant. Boeing would have to rate it for the weight of an American flight attendant, with the increased structural challenges that would entail.
Tongue firmly in cheek of course.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo
25 2H4: Visions of the 777 wing ultimate load test come to mind..... 2H4
27 Juan911411: "P-I aerospace reporter James Wallace in right seat of 787 cockpit. Note the HUD (head up display). The 787 has one for the pilot and another for the
28 IAD787: These should give some indication as well of what the final product will look like: http://flightblogger.blogspot.com/2007/06/view-from-up-front.html
29 S12PPL: Looks great to me! I hope I get to fly on one some day soon
31 JBirdAV8r: Ironically a derivative of these very displays are planned for NASA's new Orion spacecraft.
32 474218: Am I missing something? The title says real pictures "Real 787 Cockpit Pics" but all the pictures appear to be of a mock up or simulator.
33 Blackbird1331: I like it, but more importantly is that the pilots that fly the 787 find it easy to use. It's all about pilot workload.
34 Oceanic: I suppose the answer lies with the fact that "real" is a relative term. I'm sure the poster meant it in the sense that these are the first shots of t
35 PC12Fan: Or even an awesome, single engine turboprop.
36 Flanker: Is it just me or are there no backup instrument guages?
37 Mcdu: If referring to the 787 I am sure it is a power source issue. If they can get power to screen and a "SARU" ala the 777 then it probably doesn't need
38 WingedMigrator: A real cockpit would have to be completed before pictures of it could be taken, let alone posted on a.net
39 777DEN: It looks like there is a stack of 3 standby instruments between the 2 center displays, all electronic standbys ala 737NG or 777-300
40 JetMech: And I bet same damn lucky sod of an Air France pilot will put the additional structural strength of a Boeing table to good use by sitting two French
41 ThrottleHold: Looks good....but would look a lot better without those old-fashioned yokes sticking up! Should've gone with the sidesticks.
42 474218: Thats why I posted what I did. People seem to forget that words have meaning and to use the word "real" implies that it was a photo of a "real" 787 c
43 Indy: Maybe it is because I am a creature of habit but it seems like the new designs just turn over too much control to the computer. Personally I'd trust a
44 Starlionblue: Well that's a whole other can of worms. But consider two things: - Airbi with considerably more "control" (and the term needs to be used judiciously)
45 N231YE: The brown was chosen by Boeing because it has a psychologically "calming" effect.... But I admit, the grey looks much better.
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