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Clarification Of DL Fleet  
User currently offlineFlavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Hello all, I have just a quick question for all the Delta folks out there: What is the specific breakdown of DL fleet? Here is what I know:

737-800: 71
757-200: 121
767-300: 24
767-300ER: 59
767-400ER: 21
777-200ER: 8
MD-88: 120
MD:-90: 16
CRJ-100/200: 133
CRJ-700: 27

* How many 767-400ER's are transatlantic?
* How many MD-88 are Shuttle?
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

Thanks for the info

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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

767-300ER-60
767-300-20
757-136
CRJ-200-270
CRJ-700-74
CRJ-900-17
ERJ-135-17
ERJ-145-80
ERJ-170-16
EMB-120-12
BE1-8
ATR-72-12

[Edited 2007-08-17 22:36:06]

[Edited 2007-08-17 22:37:26]

User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9295 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 1):
767-300ER-60
767-300-20
757-136

no 24 is right and its only 134 (121+13) for the 757s



yep.
User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2304 times:

Slightly off topic here, but I got a trivia question regarding Delta's past widebody fleet. I know the answers, but how many true DL' s fans here will know this?
How many individual A310s, 747s, DC-10s, MD-11s & L-1011s has Delta Air Lines operated in times past?
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2293 times:
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Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
How many 767-400ER's are transatlantic?
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

Currently 8 of 21 764ERs have international BusinessElite seating; in the summer though, they have been using 4 domestic-configured 764ERs in addition for transatlantic as well (ATL-FCO, ATL-SNN, JFK-SNN, CVG-FCO) and selling the whole aircraft as coach.

757-200 transcontinental - if you mean equipped with the individual PTVs: total of 48 ex-Song 757s.

Yes, all 764ERs will eventually be converted; 8 done already; 5 will be done this coming winter in time for service next spring; and the remaining 8 will be done next winter in time for spring/summer 2009 deployment.


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2282 times:

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 3):
How many individual A310s, 747s, DC-10s, MD-11s & L-1011s has Delta Air Lines operated in times past?

Thats a hard question....

There were five 747-132s.

There were five DC-10-10s.

The L1011s, need to check , it gets confusing with the ex-UA/PA and ex-AC L1011-500s and the L1011-100s leased from TW.

Concerning the MD11s, DL took delivery of 15 (I think) plus the two leased airplanes that ended up with VASP...so 17 in total?

And, there were 7 A310-200s from Pan Am, 14 A310-300s from Pan Am, and then DL ordered another 7 A310-300s to replace the A310-200s, making 28 altogether operated by DL.

Am I close, I am doing this from memory without any research....so be kind!


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2261 times:

DutchJet...you are correct on the 747s & MD-11s. 5 747s and 17 MD-11s individually is what DL operated.
Try again on the rest.
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2253 times:

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 6):
Try again on the rest.

DL ordered 10 (not 7) additional A313s.......lets make that total 31instead of 28.

I really thought that there were 5 DC10s, but I forgot about the ex-WA airplanes (DL's second round with the DC10) making 14 in total.

How am I doing.


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2232 times:

Correct on the DC-10s. DL operated 14 individual DC-10s...5 from their own order, and 9 again from the Western buyout.
Incorrect on the A310s.
Hint on the Tristar fleet here...DL operated more L-1011s than any other carrier in the world.
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2232 times:
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IIRC, DL ordered 9 A310-300s in addition to the Pan Am birds.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2220 times:

DL's A310s

7 A312s ex PA
14 A313s ex PA

Quoting Panamair (Reply 9):
IIRC, DL ordered 9 A310-300s in addition to the Pan Am birds.

That would mean 30 all together?


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2207 times:

Bingo! On the A310 fleet, DL did indeed operated 30 different birds...21 from PA, and 9 new orders. DutchJet, you're 4 for 5 now. Keep going on the Tristar fleet.
Regards.

P.S. Another hint for the Tristar fleet. DL operated more L-1011s than the A310s, 747s, DC-10s & MD-11s fleets combined.

[Edited 2007-08-18 02:12:00]


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 11):
Bingo! On the A310 fleet, DL did indeed operated 30 different birds...21 from PA, and 9 new orders. DutchJet, you're 4 for 5 now. Keep going on the Tristar fleet.
Regards

I must give partial credit for the A310 to Panamair (thanks...)

As for the 1011s, thats so hard, 75 in total?


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4746 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
Hello all, I have just a quick question for all the Delta folks out there: What is the specific breakdown of DL fleet?

And soon you'll be able to add 6 777-232LRs by end of January 2009. Ship numbers and delivery months are readily available. 2 additional later that year.

10 or so 737-700s.

And possibly more 777s  Wink



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9295 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2108 times:

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 2):
no 24 is right and its only 134 (121+13) for the 757s

ok i was wrong DL web has 24 4 owned i have 28 12 owned(and mine is from TechOps so im right)

shuttle a/c ship: 9008-9015 N908DE-N915DE
8 764ER (anyone have the tail numbers?)

Quoting Flavio340 (Thread starter):
* How many 757-200 are transcontinental?
* Are all 767-400ER going to be converted into transatlantic, and will these allow for new routes?

i do not have the numbers for the transcons but DL will make all 752s able to do transcons so they will all be which means 121 757s



yep.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4746 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 14):
ok i was wrong DL web has 24 4 owned i have 28 12 owned(and mine is from TechOps so im right)

DL has 24 767-300s. Soon to be 23 as one is being returned to the lessor.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9295 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 15):
DL has 24 767-300s. Soon to be 23 as one is being returned to the lessor.

no sorry i try not to say your wrong because you never are but your wrong on this one.....i will send the list if you want but i got it from a buddy in Atlanta(in TechOps) and there numbers say your wrong(they work on the planes so i think they would know)



yep.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4746 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 16):
no sorry i try not to say your wrong because you never are but your wrong on this one.....i will send the list if you want but i got it from a buddy in Atlanta(in TechOps) and there numbers say your wrong(they work on the planes so i think they would know)


Sorry bro, I hate beating a dead-horse, but others and myself are right. The number is 24.

You can confirm this via Delta Air Lines, Inc.'s 10K filed with the SEC on 3/02/2007. Page 33 of 399.

I would copy and paste, but don't believe it's allowed from an SEC filing.

That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

[Edited 2007-08-18 03:52:42]


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9295 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 17):
Sorry bro, I hate beating a dead-horse, but others and myself are right. The number is 24.

You can confirm this via Delta Air Lines, Inc.'s 10K filed with the SEC on 3/02/2007. Page 33 of 399.

I would copy and paste, but don't believe it's allowed from an SEC filing.

That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

dammit you are right didn't DL have to send 4 back to the leaser?(which went to HA)
Can someone get me some N-numbers or Ship numbers along with the one thats about to go
Alitalia744 your there man sorry about that bro



yep.
User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

IIRC, three more 763 (Domestic) , three MD-88's and one 757 (ship 620) are leaving the fleet in the fall.


This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

DutchJet...the correct total for the L-1011 fleet is 70 airframes. 53 standard-body Tristars and 17 Tristar 500s.
And yes, PanAmAir does get partial credit for the A310 fleet answer. You both have earned a place on my respected user list. Well done, guys.
Regards.



"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 17):
That being said, there are 24 on property now, and one is being returned to the lessor, making it 23 soon.

Which one?

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 19):
IIRC, three more 763 (Domestic) , three MD-88's and one 757 (ship 620) are leaving the fleet in the fall.

Wow, that's a lot. Why is DL continuing to downsize their fleet despite being clearly short of mainline planes. Doesn't make sense. Anyone know which specific aircraft are going and why?

Jeremy


User currently offlineDl_mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 21):
Wow, that's a lot. Why is DL continuing to downsize their fleet despite being clearly short of mainline planes. Doesn't make sense. Anyone know which specific aircraft are going and why?

I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.



This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4746 posts, RR: 45
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 22):
I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.

Exactly, the lessors wanted $X and DL was willing to pay $Y. No deal, so the planes are going back.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2331 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 23):
Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 22):
I have heard that DL did not want to pay the lease rates that the leasors wanted.

Exactly, the lessors wanted $X and DL was willing to pay $Y. No deal, so the planes are going back.

How many of the MD-88's and 752's are owned and leased?



There's nothing quite like a tri-jet.
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