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Swiss Aviation Thread 12 - Follow-up!  
User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14259 times:

As the previous Thread 12 was accidentally locked, here it's follow up. The first attempt remained rather firmly on the ground, lets make this one take-off!!

Swiss Aviation XII (by RootsAir Aug 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Swiss Aviation Thread Locked, Why? (by SandroZRH Aug 19 2007 in Site Related)

Swiss Order 9 A330-300s (by FCKC Aug 20 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Enjoy yourself, but do not forget to fasten your seat belts!!

Cheers.

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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14172 times:

way to go, let's take off and fly

"Yes the cabin refurbishment has started about two weeks ago and it will be painted at ZRH

regards

Charles"

Thanks for the info charles, btw: how come JMJ was painted in the UK, are prices the same for both ZRH and UK for painting?

[Edited 2007-08-20 21:05:15]

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 13995 times:

According to DPTS, Belle Air has announced its intention to operate during the whole winter a twice weekly GVA-PRN service with its MD-82.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 13986 times:

I have a few questions re LX's Avros:

1. Have the 4 RJ85s left the fleet yet?
2. Will the RJ85s be replaced by more RJ100s? I seem to recall an earlier thread that seemed to indicate they would be replaced to keep the total Avro fleet at 24 but forget the details. If they don't replace them, how will this affect the current schedule since they are already contracting out certain routes to other carriers (Cirrus, Helvetic, Flightline)?
3. How many RJ100s now have the new lightweight Recaro seats?


User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 13971 times:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 2):
According to DPTS, Belle Air has announced its intention to operate during the whole winter a twice weekly GVA-PRN service with its MD-82.

I wouldn't hold my breath. Belle Air has the habit of announcing routes that it never starts, or canceling them right after. Although demand is larger from PRN, it's strange that GVA is being served from PRN as opposed to TIA, since Belle Air has no flights to either GVA or PRN currently. This means that they will either have to serve GVA from TIA as well, or most likely start flights from TIA to PRN.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 13956 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
3. How many RJ100s now have the new lightweight Recaro seats?

All of them.


User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 13953 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
1. Have the 4 RJ85s left the fleet yet?

Three are still around, apparently.

http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_swiss/company/fleet/Pages/fleet.aspx


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 13945 times:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 6):
Three are still around, apparently.

They operate to STR, BRU, NUE, WAW and MXP


User currently offlineSwissairtaz From Switzerland, joined Jul 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 13912 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 1):
Thanks for the info charles, btw: how come JMJ was painted in the UK, are prices the same for both ZRH and UK for painting?

No capacity at SRT for JMJ, no idea about prices

regards

Charles



md11 forever
User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 hour ago) and read 13876 times:

What has happend to the RJ100 at LCY? Is it still blocked?

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months ago) and read 13843 times:

2007 interim result: profit of 46.1 million Swiss francs, plus 24.5 percent versus prior-year period, resignation of CEO Josef Felder as of 31 August 2008. Following a profit of 87.5 million Swiss francs for the full 2006 financial year, Unique (Flughafen Zürich AG) has reported a profit of 46.1 million Swiss francs for the first six months of 2007. The passenger volume at Zurich Airport rose by 8.1 percent versus the same period last year, while the number of flight movements increased by 2.1 percent. Unique (Flughafen Zürich AG) anticipates a total of around 20.4 million passengers for the full 2007 financial year.



More details here


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13783 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 5):

All of them.

that's good news much earlier than expected, they planned by feb 2008 or so to have the entire Avro fleet with the new seats. The rest of the RJ85's ayway are gone by the end of the year with I gues a replacement of 4 RJ100's?

BTW: Anybody know why LX008 to ORD on HB-IQO (A332) got cancelled today?

[Edited 2007-08-22 13:34:45]

User currently offlineSwissairtaz From Switzerland, joined Jul 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13730 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 11):
BTW: Anybody know why LX008 to ORD on HB-IQO (A332) got cancelled today?

An unexpected engine change.

regards

Charles



md11 forever
User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13614 times:

Quoting Swissairtaz (Reply 12):

ok, thanks


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5564 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13611 times:

Does anybody know: a few minutes ago there was thread about the LX A 332. I wanted to post in there but got the message that the thread does not exist anymore. Why??????

[Edited 2007-08-22 21:59:53]

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13599 times:

maybe it had to do with the thread about LX geting the A333's in 2009 to replace it's remaining 9 A332's?

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13593 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 14):
Does anybody know: a few minutes ago there was thread about the LX A 332. I wanted to post in there but got the message that the thread does not exist anymore. Why??????

LX 332: Anything I Should Watch For? (by KrisYUL Aug 22 2007 in Aviation Polls & Prefs)


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5564 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13593 times:

no. There was somebody who flies soon the LX 332 and had some questions about them.

User currently offlineSeansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 805 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13584 times:

Does anybody know why the Star Alliance RJ100 has been parked at LCY for at least 2 days now?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5564 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13583 times:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 16):
LX 332: Anything I Should Watch For? (by KrisYUL Aug 22 2007 in Aviation Polls & Prefs

Thanks. They put it to the other forum.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13574 times:

Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 18):
Does anybody know why the Star Alliance RJ100 has been parked at LCY for at least 2 days now?

I heard it went tech, not sure though


User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13572 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 19):
Thanks. They put it to the other forum.

You're welcome. I saw that thread earlier in CivAv, and when I read your question this happened:  idea .


User currently offlineHBChris From Switzerland, joined Jun 2007, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13563 times:

Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 18):
Does anybody know why the Star Alliance RJ100 has been parked at LCY for at least 2 days now?

It made a hard landing due to strong winds and is now "Substantially damaged". Look at http://www.baz.ch/news/index.cfm?sta...C9B9349-1422-0CEF-7051677AB8036AF6 (German only) or the accident report http://www.bfu.admin.ch/common/pdf/HB-IYU.pdf


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13557 times:

I gues that the aircraft is currently out of service has no affect on the operations as the avro fleet is currently anyway not operating to it's maximum cacpaity due to flight personal shortage?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13509 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 5):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
3. How many RJ100s now have the new lightweight Recaro seats?

All of them.

Thanks. Must have finished this job very recently as I was on two RJ100s 2 weeks ago (ZRH-DUS and ZRH-GVA) and both still had the old seats.


25 Post contains images SandroZRH : Hmm, i thought they had finished all of them by now, i might be wrong though?
26 FRALIM : Things may have changed dramatically in the last few weeks, but I have my doubts.... By the end of July there were only four RJ100 with the new seats
27 LXA340 : I doubt also that if they scheduled to complete the refurbishment of the seats by Feb 2008 they suddenly finished it that much earlier. Although as t
28 SandroZRH : Flown on three different Avros within the last 2 months and they all had the new interior, hence i assumed the whole fleet was completed.
29 Swissairtaz : Dont worry, might happen to receive wrong information from somebody, happend to me as well. regards Charles
30 LXA340 : on another note are all the A32S completed with new seats including the 5 ex SR planes that joined from TK?
31 LXA340 : on another note are all the A32S completed with new seats including the 5 ex SR planes that joined from TK?
32 Post contains links and images SandroZRH : Hey guys, the legendary Terassen-fest will take place from today until sunday, like every year. Again, the bustour will be for free and one will be ab
33 Sr176 : According skyland.ch another two A-320 (ex IJD, IJE) will join the fleet and put into service in December 07. They are as well coming from TK.
34 ZRH : Hey Sandro. I think for me it is also Sunday. You have my mobil number call me or write an SMS to meet. Philipp
35 Sr176 : So what can we in ZRH expect from the winter schedule? Let's summarize: EasyJet to LUT 2/d (from Sept 18) Cirrus to DRS from 2/d to 3/d on all weekday
36 SwissA330 : Sandro, they are not yet all of them with new seats flew one a couple of days ago with old seats! Strangely i haven't been on an avro with new seats
37 ZRH : In the NZZ of today (August 24) on page 25 there is a short note that Swiss will takeover 100% of the shares of Swiss Aviation Training. This is the c
38 Helvknight : Any idea why LX 8 to ORD is cancelled again today? (showing on the monitors in ZRH) Aircraft gone tech?
39 Sr176 : Don't worry Helvknight, today you are not on LX8. Enjoy your flight on this sunny day.
40 LXA340 : I think the inbound flight of ORD was cancelled last night due to bad weather in ORD not sure though. That exact aircraft was tech 2 days ago so prob
41 Post contains links ZRH : Yes could be. There's a thread here: Chicago ATC Out - Tornado Warning
42 Post contains images SandroZRH : Strangely I dont. I thought i had it but was well surprised when i looked through my numbers without luck! Send me a pm LX 8 diverted to DTW last nig
43 Post contains images SandroZRH : Update: Apparently one LX A332 went tech away form home somewhere, hence LX8 was cancelled. And my dad witnessed LX A343 HB-JMF having a birdstrike on
44 LXA340 : that would be the flight from Jeddah / Riyahd which was cancelled, so at one of those 2 stations it went tech then. They couldnt afford another plane
45 Post contains images AntonovA330 : Must have been a very small bird to fit into that tiny CFM This has somebody already asked before, but do someone know about possible seat manufactur
46 Swissairtaz : ENG #2 stall at FL410, A/C stucks now at RUH for engine inspection regards Charles
47 LXA340 : Oh, looks like the problem is solved by now, plane on it's way back to ZRH. IQC I think went tech today as it arrived at 8 from DXB and is scheduled
48 717fan : They are also planning to operate 4 weekly flights to Zurich.
49 Swissairtaz : Windshield change
50 LXA340 : thanks
51 Post contains links OceansWorld : Swiss AviationTraining to become a full SWISS subsidiary http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20070823.aspx
52 LX64A332 : How is the US PHL-ZRH route doing in terms of loads? Any chance they might also start from CLT? regards, LX64A332
53 Post contains images SandroZRH : I heard that the flights have been going out full almost everyday. Don't know anything about the yields, but they can't be that bad. About CLT, i dou
54 LX64A332 : LOL yepp I'm askin because the connections out of CLT would be ideal for me because I live in NAS, and I really try to avoid MIA but sometimes you ha
55 Saab2000 : Word for the Swiss Aviation fans back in Switzerland - I just passed my upgrade training and will now be captain on the CRJ here in the US! Still wait
56 Post contains images SandroZRH : Half a mile from where i used to live back then I'll never forget that. My dad was called out of bed for a "special duty" (He was head of the MCC bac
57 Swissairtaz : Good luck regards Charles
58 HECA : Congratulations and good luck!
59 Post contains images LXA340 : Congratulations and good luck for your future with many happy landing in ZRH and GVA with you in control of an LX A350 some day BTW: What's the longe
60 Acontador : Hi you guys! Well, this time it's confirmed, and I'm on LX 97 from SCL to ZRH in September! Since it's my first time in many, many years that I fly to
61 LXA340 : I'd say between 12 - 13:30 / 14:00 that's the busiest time of day regarding departures, especially if you want to see heavies. There are 8-9 departur
62 Post contains images OceansWorld : What ?
63 Post contains images LXA340 : ups.... TG A346
64 SandroZRH : Also around 10am when quite a few LX A332s, A343s and almost all North american carriers leave.
65 Post contains links OceansWorld : While searching a thread, I stumbled on this one. Any particular reason to answer the question ? What's Between Swiss Intl And Novartis? (by DIJKKIJK
66 Acontador : Thanks LXA340/SandroZRH! Any website with more info on spotting at ZRH? Regarding LX 97, has there been any delays upon arrival? I'm asking because o
67 Post contains links ZRH : Here's the page of Zurich Airport, click on the link "Your Visit": http://www.zurich-airport.com/ You should arrive at Arrival 2 (by Skymetro from th
68 Helvknight : Congratulations and all the best.
69 Post contains links and images LXLucien : Go to: http://www.planepics.org/zurich_spot_en.html Many Infos about the Spots in ZRH! Just BTW, does anybody have experience with LX18 to EWR? How's
70 Saab2000 : Longest flight we have in the CRJ at my company is PHL-MCI. In the winter it has been blocked as high as 3:05 or so. Normally the flight itself is ab
71 Post contains links Gerardo : Claro hombre! Try www.dominguez-online.ch Cheers Gerardo
72 Post contains images LXA340 : hehe, yeah I also wouldn't want to be on one of them, wouldn't mind the jump seat though AC (Jazz) uses it on quite long routes of flights up to 4 ho
73 LXLucien : Hi LX340 Thanks for your report! Okay... don't sound very good, but i guess still better as JFK as it's smaller and has fewer delays! And shorter Immi
74 LXA340 : Well the JFK flight that departs at 21:00 is the one you would compare it too. But yeah lately it's a real big hastle for the flight to get out out o
75 Helvknight : I came in from FRA earlier this evening and saw a JL 744 sitting at the E dock. I thought JL had axed the NRT flight after LX joined Star. Nothing on
76 SandroZRH : They operate various charter flights to ZRH from different Japanese cities throughout the summer, such as Sapporo, Hiroshima, Nagoya etc.
77 Helvknight : I didn't know that. Thanks, Sandro.
78 LXA340 : A short question regarding the Airbus A340's HB-JMH and I of LX are those A340-313X or E's? Incase yes, what's the difference with the E's they have m
79 Post contains images Acontador : Thank you all for the good info!
80 Post contains images Swissy : Way to go I hope so!! I have still not given up on you (flying for Swiss again)!!!!! Will be returning to ZRH next week on AC878, enjoy family, food,
81 Post contains images Saab2000 : Thanks!! I still have that dream of flying a HB-XXX airplane again with a big red tail with white cross on it! But it probably won't happen until som
82 LXA340 : I mean I am not an expert but at least what I saw, it really looks like if there are a few raindrops the whole airtraffic gets delayed. Obviously whe
83 Post contains images Swissy : Working out of YYZ most of the time (for to long ) it sometimes wonders me how things are still moving over here, sure they have all the proper equip
84 OceansWorld : Must be quite a chaos in that weather and the lack of taxiways to reach the end of the runway at YHM...[Edited 2007-08-30 23:50:38]
85 Post contains images Swissy : Yep it was beyond me, got a call at night from "Lead of shift" and he advised me that everyone but 2 guys went home because of snow............. went
86 Saab2000 : That is correct. Partially. Remember that where I work in the US is very, very different from anywhere in Europe. The only place that is even close i
87 OceansWorld : Since about two weeks, I've noticed that when LX022 takeoff from runway 05, it later makes a 180° left turn and goes straight ahead South West over F
88 LXA340 : Wouldn't the flight at some point have simmilar routing than alll the ZRH -NY flights direction paris then over the channel flying over London, etc a
89 SandroZRH : I've been following that flight on google earth a couple of times and it always seems to take a very southern route over the atlantic, usually flying
90 OceansWorld : Many years ago, while flying with SR from ZRH to ORD, our flight followed the same kind of routing as what Sandro said. I don't remember everything,
91 LXA340 : Sounds interesting, wouldn't mind a change for once as well. All flights I took to JFK and YUL from ZRH went over Paris and the channel, just the poi
92 OceansWorld : Once I flew GVA-LAX, and after doing the 270° turn, the flight went almost straight over England, part of Scotland, below Iceland, the tip of Greenl
93 LXA340 : I gues when jetstream is really strong they take a very northern route. On this flight to JFK where we flew over Greenland we even flew over Montreal
94 717fan : Norwegian 1 or 2x weekly to OSL with 733 Any more new airlines, flights, frequencies? Thanks a lot
95 ChrisZRH : Air Mauritius is going to start mixed operation into ZRH and GVA with A340 and A330s. No infos about the date though Also two Novair A330s are getting
96 Post contains images Swissy : Hi guys, I know its late just a question, was there anywhere a SR111 topic??? here??? Will be back @ ZRH on Thursday!! Cheers,
97 LXA340 : hmmm... the site existed already at the time so I gues yes, somewhere deeply archived. However a few months ago the Incident was discused again after
98 LXA340 : An update on the stranded Avro plane at LCY. After technicians inspected the plane they came to the conclusion that the plane cannot be flown out befo
99 Post contains links OceansWorld : Amongst other... SR 111 Update (by EMIRATES Nov 1 1998 in Civil Aviation) SR111 - Crew Failure ? (by Bill Aug 12 1999 in Civil Aviation) This Is The
100 Post contains links OceansWorld : Another LX A340 has got a "name". http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ss_releases/Pages/pr_20070905.aspx
101 RJ100 : There will be another one named after the cities of Basel and Liestal on October 5 with a special event and a ferry flight BSL-ZRH.
102 LXA340 : I gues all the A340's will be named first and then the A32S family will follow? There is no point really to name the A330's as they will be laving in
103 Post contains links and images OceansWorld : This is correct as the aircraft was delivered on November 10th and this press release was published three days later. Though, I can't see the name on
104 LXA340 : I don't know if the logo is visible on any aircraft from the outside, the way it used to be with SR, which I found nice. With LX they write it on the
105 Post contains images SwissA330 : They could just give them back their old names that SR had at the time... A couple of important names would probably be missing, but they could give t
106 ZRH : Short question: tomorrow I will be flying ZRH-FCO on LX 1726. On the page of Zurich Airport I saw that today this flight was an MD 82 (LX number, no c
107 Post contains links OceansWorld : Yes. Go to reply 98 on this thread: Going For 11 - It's All Swiss Aviation (by SandroZRH Jul 22 2007 in Civil Aviation)
108 Post contains links ZRH : Just answered my own question: I found it on: http://www.airfleets.net/ . Entered service in 1988. Former China Eastern Aircraft, since 1999 with Span
109 Post contains images ZRH : Thanks. I see. Actually I am exited, though I flew many times on MD 80s (and DC 9) on Swissair, AA and others it is a long time ago I had one and pro
110 SandroZRH : That's odd indeed. I flew Swiss to MAD on monday and according to my itinerary, the plane used was supposed to be a Spanair MD82, however, when i arr
111 LXA340 : I think LX tries to mix operations where possible, so that some flights to MAD, BHX etc also get at least 1 daily real LX aircraft service. Looks lik
112 717fan : Read in another forum that EVA-Air wants to switch ist 3 x weekly flights to Taipei from Vienna to Zurich...Any truth on this one? Thanks
113 Post contains images SandroZRH : uuuuh, how lovely would that be
114 Post contains images ZRH : If true, this would be absolutely great .
115 AntonovA330 : Nice indeed! Two A320 (HB-IJD/E) will rejoin LX, first one coming in November.
116 LXA340 : Nice, nice nice. That would bring the Swiss International shorthaul fleet to 32 aircraft (26 planes originally when LX was founded) Lets hope the lon
117 Knightsofmalta : Three new European destinations are in the pipeline for SWISS, to be announced shortly but probably not starting until the next summer schedule.
118 LXA340 : Hmmmm....might Helsinki or St. Petersburg be one of them? What's the plan with the wetleases will LX be able to operate it's entire Avro fleet to max
119 Post contains images RJ100 : 100 Swiss Francs on LED. Seriously, LH has good business in LED, flights are usually packed, lowest fares around 400 Euros return. Booming economy, bo
120 SandroZRH : Two good bets and i really hope for the first. LED was nicely explained by Thomas, and HEL isn't much different. Fares of under CHF300 on AY are non-
121 Post contains images AntonovA330 : I don't remember exactly, but one for sure. Uuuh, I hope they do so, go T154 go! I agree, two daily would be a must. Both LEDand HEL would make sense
122 LXA340 : Maybe a return to Sofia, SR used to fly there I think?
123 Post contains images LTU932 : HB-JMH and JMI are both listed as A340-313Es according to ch-aviation.ch. And as for the differences between the Es and Xs, I believe the -313E has a
124 Viscount724 : One A332 was renamed "Genève" soon after they announced the change from mountains to cities/cantons. There was a little ceremony at GVA airport to u
125 LXA340 : That's the weird part, all of their (9) A340's HB-JMA - I which were brand new at delivery did have the enhanced cockpit as you showed on left pictur
126 Knightsofmalta : I'm afraid for Sandro that Helsinki is not going to be one of the new destinations.
127 Sr176 : What about another destination in Italy like Bologna or Genoa to strengthen the presence there?
128 Knightsofmalta : Has anybody been able to confirm that rumour regarding EVA switching from VIE to ZRH? That would just be too cool. I think their green planes look rat
129 RJ100 : Bologna and Florence were mentioned a couple of weeks ago... I don't see LED to be double daily, it is probably hard enough to get the traffic rights
130 Post contains images SandroZRH : pffffffffffff, i'll have to keep taking my business to AY then
131 Knightsofmalta : Starting in April, LX will operate GVA-OTP three times weekly on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday with the following schedule: GVA-OTP leaves at 13:40 a
132 LXA340 : Probably if LED will happen it will be a flight leaving in the morning to ZRH and arriving back at late afternoon or something like that I would assu
133 VORFMD : BR Station in VIE informed that this Info is NOT correct. BR will stay in VIE. Sorry for you ZRH Guys
134 Post contains images LXA340 : Will the flight also be like the GVA - Moscow flights that it will start in ZRH and end there again? How about the other 2 destinations will they be
135 Knightsofmalta : Bugger, I was looking forward to EVA. If I remember rightly that flight was operated by Denim Air until they stopped flying for LX. LX did consider o
136 LXA340 : It's really time this route gets double daily long haul equipment again. Hope LX will get the lost premium custumers of the night flight wich is oper
137 Post contains links OceansWorld : No false BR rumor for GVA, but a new twice-daily corporate shuttle to/from Mannheim operated by Cirrus Airlines. Could it be for Merck Serono ? http:/
138 Post contains images Infodesk : Could be worse! No dodgy wetleases there.......
139 LXA340 : lol...it's time this wetlease situation will end with LX, hopefully till summer 2008[Edited 2007-09-08 15:15:06]
140 Post contains images SandroZRH : True, and I wasn't complaining about AY, they're great. All i hoped for was LX launching HEL because i could nonrev, which would save me a considerab
141 LXA340 : Maybe some event for the Knabenschiessen, althogh I doubt it?
142 Post contains images RJ100 : I think it is a 25 years of Ju-Air celebration today. The Super Constellation flew low over my house just outside of Basel on the way to Dübendorf th
143 Post contains images SwissA330 : They have been training all Friday as well. I work in Hegnau, well, we didn't really work when the PS flew by and made some stunts
144 AntonovA330 : BTW, is there something like a new departure route out of ZRH? I'm asking because I have the impression that sometimes they're making the left turn ou
145 LXA340 : I read something a while ago about it, that they will introduce a new extended left curve out of ZRH when departing from Runway 16. The reason for it
146 ZRH : This is absolutely true. I have a recent experience. Today I came back from Rome. My early morning flight on Friday was a Spanair MD 82. Although I u
147 Swissairtaz : Exactly right, 25 years of Ju-Air. regards Charles
148 LXA340 : At least LX noticed that it might be smarter to deploy this plane not on one route but use it to various destinations then at least chances are hight
149 Post contains images SandroZRH : Another JL 744 charter was at ZRH today, this time from CTS
150 RJ100 : Some more info from BSL: -The new Swiss routes launched in January have an average load factor of 83%, Nice, Warsaw, Budapest, Manchester and Prague.
151 SandroZRH : What about AMS? Oh and people, keep your eyes open for Air India's first A333 which will leave SRTechnics in about two weeks, I'll try to get the exa
152 LXA340 : Are there plans to base 1 Airbus in BSL for the entire week for charters and some scheduled flights or will the expansion involve more Avros? I think
153 RJ100 : Sorry, I forgot to mention BCN and AMS. As reported, overall load factor is 76% and BCN is one of the new destinations, therefore belongs into the 83%
154 LXA340 : There ae currently 20 Avro RJ100's (Actually 19 as one is down in LCY no clue if or how long it will take to fix it) and 2 Avro RJ85's which will lea
155 SandroZRH : It's an ex-Novair machine. They'll only get two as of now, bith ex-Novair. The second plane is due to arrive right when the first one leaves. This ca
156 RJ100 : You might be right, I'm not familiar with the different expressions. For me based= staying overnight. But your comment sounds logical too. So the crew
157 Post contains links OceansWorld : Then it will be an A330-200 rather than a -300. http://www.ch-aviation.ch/airlinepage.php?code1=NVR[Edited 2007-09-11 15:02:02]
158 LXA340 : "SWISS is further expanding its Geneva-based network with the introduction next April of a thrice-weekly service to and from Bucharest. The new route
159 SandroZRH : No, I think the crew operates the plane all day long, then flies it to BSL and heads home from there. A new crew will pick it up in BSL the next morn
160 AntonovA330 : Thanks! Wow, good numbers indeed. I guess LX are quite happy with that trend.
161 LXA340 : Anybody has an idea how many Cabin Crews are still based in BSL and GVA, I gues pilots would only be Avro and all the Airbus pilots in ZRH and crews m
162 SandroZRH : Same happened to me when i flew back to BSL from AMS. The whole crew actually boarded the same trains to ZRH as me, they told me they had an evening
163 LXA340 : So the crew flew a roundtrip to AMS from BSL and few hours later continued their job at ZRH, not bad working out of 2 bases on one day ; ?
164 HBDAN : Dear all, "surfing" on swisstxt under BSL i've seen that today there is a strange departure: FR 1002 flying to BUD Does anybody know more??? Regards,
165 RJ100 : It came in earlier from Dublin. It's a special flight to promote the announced routes. Journalists were invited for the press conference in BSL today.
166 SQ7345 : Thomas, It was "only" Michael Cawley the Deputy CEO/COO on Board. Plane left to BUD. Cheers
167 Post contains images RJ100 : Thank you! According to Mr. Cawley they want to establish BSL to one of their main airports in Central Europe. As mentioned above the flight left to
168 Knightsofmalta : A few changes for LX operations in GVA and BSL for the winter schedule: LX will introduce a new route from GVA to MAN on Sundays during the ski season
169 Saab2000 : We used to do that on a fairly regular basis. SWISS gave all crew members a card for the ZRH-BSL route to use when positioning. It was used probably
170 LXA340 : It looks like all pilots / crews are based in ZRH now. There are enough flights between ZRH and GVA to position crews around daily and same with trai
171 Viscount724 : I think quite a few LX pilots and flight attendants live in the GVA area. I've often seen several LX crew who live in GVA on GVA-ZRH-GVA flights dead
172 Infodesk : Great news! Would be nice if the demand is there to keep it on after the ski season has ended-
173 Dens : I'm sitting in my office and from the window I see a big EasyJet advertisment for flights from Geneva to Brindisi. As I have some friends there, I'm v
174 Knightsofmalta : Actually there was a thread earlier on about Easyjet starting Brindisi.
175 LXA340 : Did an A330 of LX go tech this morning after arrival in ZRH? The LX016/17 flights are operated today by an A340. As a result JNB was delayed to tomoro
176 Post contains images Ka : In an early planning status LX expected to have HB-JML in service from 2007/09/14. So they planned their maintenance schedule for other longhaul-a/c
177 Sr176 : Bad news. According Travel inside, MH is leaving ZRH end of Jan. 2008. I was rather believing that since SQs downgrade from B744 to B777 there is a pa
178 Knightsofmalta : But ar least CA has also announced to have ZRH online at the latest by 2009.
179 Sr176 : Maybe there is now a higher chance that SQ is introducing a 2nd daily. Or is that wishful thinking ... ?
180 Post contains images SwissA330 : And I was on that flight!!! Just landed a couple of hours ago. Yippieh, i definitely prefer the A340 over the 30... BR P
181 Helvknight : That's a pain. Generally the other Asian flights get pretty good loads. Maybe SQ and TG do better because of the *A connections and LX codeshares. Al
182 AntonovA330 : Bummer! *Daydreaming on* Hmm, what about LX starting KUL and continuing to xxx? *daydreaming off*
183 ZRH : I don't see a big chance. KUL is very close to SIN where the Star hub is. As we know LX starts DEL and PVG. Before KUL I see rather other destination
184 Humberside : Blue Islands are starting JER-GVA/ZRH - both three times weekly with connections to GCI
185 Post contains links Helvknight : There was some speculation in the Sonntags Blick (yeah, I know) that Andre Dosé might be going to one of the Spanish carriers - possibly JK or Clicka
186 Post contains images Infodesk : easyJet have landed back in Zürich! And a pretty good load too - let's see if it continues over the next few weeks Greetings Infodesk
187 LXA340 : So no chance at all that it will be ready 1 day earlier and operate LX254/5 to TLV on thursday? I gues as mentioned on here earlier, HB-IQP will go o
188 Swissairtaz : It was clear already that JML will not be ready on 14.09. because of the shortage of components like seats, galleys and other modification kit. There
189 LXA340 : They replaced like everything, galleys, toilets, lighting etc. Don't know about the overhead bins though? Interesting how much that costs. BTW: why i
190 Swissairtaz : I have no idea I dont think so regards Charles
191 Post contains links and images OceansWorld : Here it is, pictured today at ZRH. This is former SE-RBF of Novair. Simply gorgeous. View Large View MediumPhoto © Rolf Wallner
192 Post contains images LXA340 : thanks
193 Post contains links OceansWorld : To say it simply, I really doubt that HU will ever serve GVA. http://www.dpts.org/news.html
194 Viscount724 : I think you mean A332 not 333.
195 OceansWorld : Of course, but I never said it was an A333. I was quoting Sandro's post, to which BTW I've answered earlier to correct the aircraft type. See reply 1
196 ZRH : As we now know that Switzerland will most probably join the Schengen treaty per November 1st 2008 (to read in any newspaper today), I think that the S
197 LXA340 : I takes quite a while to make all those changes, no clue how ZRH plans to be done for November 2008.
198 Post contains links and images RJ100 : Tuifly has already opened sales for the summer period, seeing additional flights and capacity from Basel. Against the summer 07 they will fly to 5 new
199 Knightsofmalta : Have they already announced what destinations?
200 RJ100 : PMI 3x weekly NUE 2x weekly Also direct flights to Fuerteventura, Hurghada, Las Palmas, Lanzarote, Tenerife. Via PMI and NUE a total of 31 destination
201 Post contains links ZRH : Now the 9 Swiss 333 and two 32x are on the LH page (again): http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/html...en/app/show/en/2007/09/733/HOM&s=0
202 SandroZRH : So they'll get another two A320s additionally to the two A320s that are to join the fleet shortly, coming from TK? Or are those two A320s the ones th
203 Post contains images ZRH : I don't know but don't think so. BTW welcome back Sandro, we are waiting for trip reports
204 ZRH : I read now the LH message carefully. These are not the two from TK, these are two brand new ones joining the fleet only 2011.
205 Post contains images LXA340 : wow... great fuss about 2 A320's that will join from 2011. At this point LX would need to consider to slowly start replacing it's A320 fleet with new
206 Post contains images SandroZRH : Thanks! No promises though, both Noora and myself are rather lazy
207 ZRH : ... or they probably keep e few 332 for some routes for which they are perfect.
208 Post contains images ZRH : As I am. I should have written one from my recent Rom trip and the cramped "Swiss" (Spanair) MD 82 flight.
209 Swissairtaz : Sorry i was wrong by one day, today BAZL inspection and tomorrow (20.09) test-flight regards Charles
210 Swissairtaz : For that one you have been waiting a while for , right? regards Charles
211 Knightsofmalta : They won't. That's why none of the A. 330-200s is going to be refurbished. Trying to get a code-share agreement on SQ, or any other kind of cooperati
212 Post contains links OceansWorld : Below is the link to a complete list of seasonal services and other changes coming online this winter. Amongst them, the frequency increase for both E
213 Viscount724 : But assume they will still need something like the current security checkpoints at each gate area for transit passengers?
214 Helvknight : Also what about the extra checks/segregation for the US flights? It would be good to see that go, it's a huge waste of real estate cordoning off half
215 ZRH : Yes you are right. The central security is only for passengers origin Zurich. Transfer passengers from non-Schengen countries to Schengen countries n
216 Knightsofmalta : News from SWISS: - Additional frequency to TXL (nightstop) - Helvetic will operate two daily flights to WAW and one daily flight to BRU on behalf of L
217 Post contains images SandroZRH : LED seems like a cashcow, FLR might work, but SOF? I'm not aware of a large bulgarian population in Switzerland, and I don't see any economical ties
218 ZRH : When they have to wetlease aircrafts it is definately better to use more Helvetic aircrafts instead of the cramped Spanair MD 82. The Helvetic F 100
219 OceansWorld : I think it could be related to the trade growth since Bulgaria entered the EU, just like for Romania and the region in fact. As Knightsofmalta said e
220 717fan : Will they operate its own aircraft to FLR? BTW, any more route/airline news from foreign airlines for ZRH for the coming winter timetable? Is Gulf Ai
221 Knightsofmalta : Flights to FLR will be operated using an RJ 100 from LX. In the meantime, I think we might expect an announcement from LX sometime in the near future
222 AntonovA330 : LED! Yess! Any infos about frequency? Are these new destinations per summer timetable '08? How were FLR and SOF doing for SR? Thanks Knightsofmalta!
223 LXA340 : That's good news, so definetly not the A330 double daily? Let's hope LX will be able to make up for the lost marketshare especially on the premium se
224 Knightsofmalta : Hi AntonovA330 Here are the schedules: ZRH-LED, daily, A. 319, LX 1310 0925-1435 LED-ZRH, daily, A. 319 LX 1311 1525-1635 ZRH-SOF, daily, A. 319 LX 18
225 AntonovA330 : Thank you sir! Are there political reasons why LED doesn't see 2 daily? E.g. a morning (nightstopping?) flight ex-LED for the first outbound wave ex-
226 LXA340 : The route is new, so I gues LX would want too see how the 1x daily frequeny will do. However also if they would want too I don't know if equipment wo
227 Post contains links SandroZRH : The three new routes have still not been officially announced, However, they released a press release discussing the fleet expansion yesterday. http:/
228 LXA340 : True, schedules etc seem to have been decided however you can't book them yet. Same to the changes that will be made to MIA and TLV as of Summer Time
229 Post contains links AntonovA330 : True, that's what I actually thought as well after my posting. Have a look at this: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw..._releases/Pages/pr_2007092
230 SandroZRH : lol i swear that wasn't there when i looked.
231 ZRH : This is a weird incident with Hello: The FC Basel was to fly back with a Hello aircraft from the UEFA Cup match at Sarajevo. The captain told them tha
232 Post contains images SandroZRH : Maybe the FCB fatties should lose some weight Or they should just have offloaded G. Oeri
233 AntonovA330 : Just out of curiosity I had a look at the fares for 04.04.2008 LX1310 ZRH-LED 10.04.2008 LX1311 LED-ZRH and came to a grand total of CHF1706.50 (CHF84
234 Post contains images ZRH : That's a good idea. Nobody would miss her, besides of course her money . BTW I find the second part of the article quite interesting about the other
235 Post contains images SandroZRH : Clearly that isn't here to stay. I mean who the hell is going to pay 1700.- for a 3 hours flight? Now frankly, DME is an expensive destination aswell
236 LXA340 : That's strange, I am prety sue as the dates are still so far away the prices will be adjusted a few times. 2-3 motnhs before the first flights the fa
237 Post contains images AntonovA330 : Well, 6 hours Let's hope so.
238 VV701 : HB-IYU - the RJ100 that had a very heavy landing at LCY that severely damaged trhe underside of its fuselage back on 18 August - is on the move. It ha
239 Post contains links ZRH : Thanks. There is special thread about it: Swiss To "float Away" Damaged Avro RJ At LCY
240 Post contains links ZRH : As this thread now reached more than 200 posts I decided to start a new one: Swiss Aviation Thread 13 - Good Luck I ask a moderator to close this one.
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