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Russia Seeks Assembly Work On A320 Successor  
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

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Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Russia's OAO United Aircraft Corp. is seeking to build a new Airbus SAS plane as the nation competes with China for third place in the commercial-airliner market.

Alexey Fyodorov, chief executive officer of Moscow-based United Aircraft, met with Airbus CEO-designate Tom Enders today to discuss assembly work on a successor to the A320 series. United Aircraft, controlled by the state, is President Vladimir Putin's effort to combine manufacturers to return Russia's aerospace industry to its Soviet-era heyday.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1085&sid=aAVH6ahrwQx0&refer=europe

I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1923 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

Me neither. Final assembly in an other country than France, Germany or the UK is probably not acceptable for these countries. However, if EADS/Airbus manages to gain independence it might be an interesting option for a cheaper plane.

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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

If things work out with assembling A320's in China, that would make China the strongest candidate for a second assembly line, wouldn't it?


User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

Hard to see how Airbus can grant final assembly to China and deny it to Russia. The precedent has already been set.

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
Final assembly in an other country than France, Germany or the UK is probably not acceptable for these countries.

I don't see how the UK has much say in what EADS/Airbus does. More likely that Spain would be objecting to new final assembly sites being established without getting any of that work for themselves.



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 3):
Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

Hard to see how Airbus can grant final assembly to China and deny it to Russia.

But the Chinese aircraft are for the chinese market only. And 4 per month at that.


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Airbus is quite simply 'estopped' from doing any deals with Russia while it remains part of EADS, a NATO-relevant defence firm.

The Russians, from the NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation) viewpoint, remain 'the enemy' for all practical military purposes. And very recently - within the last few hours - they've resumed their previous policy of acting like it.

"BRITAIN has scrambled its new Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the first time to intercept Russian nuclear bombers approaching British airspace, the Ministry of Defence in London said yesterday.

"In a display of muscle-flexing on both sides, when two Russian Bear-H aircraft appeared on British horizons last Friday, two pound stg. 67million ($165.6 million) Typhoons, based at RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire, were scrambled to identify and shadow the unannounced arrivals, which turned back before reaching UK airspace.

"With relations between Russia and Britain deteriorating, the number of incidents in which Russia's submarines have been found close to British shores or in contact with Royal Navy warships has also risen, reports said yesterday. London's Daily Telegraph said there was a suggestion Russia could be testing the West's air detection systems and response times."


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...ory/0,25197,22289791-31477,00.html

[Edited 2007-08-22 18:06:31]


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User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4365 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting EI321 (Thread starter):
I cant see them getting final assembly, just assembly of major sub sections.

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Quoting Art (Reply 2):
If things work out with assembling A320's in China, that would make China the strongest candidate for a second assembly line, wouldn't it?

On its face, that would appear to be the most logical choice. However, I suspect Airbus won't want to give too much of their family jewels to the Chinese, especially if it's a new aircraft model. The A320 replacement will entail cutting edge technologies whereas the current A320, by the time the Chinese start manufacturing them, will be a design that's about a quarter century old. Airbus was created in order to preserve and advance the aerospace industrial base of the Continent. Giving away the technology, tools, and manufacturing prowess of cutting-edge aircraft flies in the face of Airbus' mandate (regardless of whether that mandate still drives the company or not).



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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 6):
I suspect Airbus won't want to give too much of their family jewels to the Chinese

Fair point. Or to the Russians, either, I guess.


User currently offlineTeamAmerica From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 1761 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 4):
But the Chinese aircraft are for the chinese market only. And 4 per month at that.

"But" nothing, from the Russian's point of view. They have a factory...we want one, too.
Perhaps Russian production could be limited to the former Soviet states, on paper if not in reality.

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 5):
Airbus is quite simply 'estopped' from doing any deals with Russia while it remains part of EADS, a NATO-relevant defence firm.

That's interesting, but hasn't Boeing set up a design shop in Russia? How can it be that Russians would be allowed to design aircraft, but not assemble them?



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