Tui From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 12 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
My Cousin works at Gatwick and has been telling me about the problems they are having with Zoom on their new New York and Bermuda flights.Major delays,over bookings,cancelled flights etc i have started looking at the flight arrivals board on the Teletext and she is so right they are always either delayed or cancelled ! Anyone got any news as to why this is ?
YZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
They only have one aircraft so far that operates that route (B763ER: G-UKZM). Its simply a matter of not having the backup equipment needed when things go mechanical. You'll often see lengthy (and i mean 24-30 hour) delays with Zoom in Canada due to the lack of a/c available here too.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4109 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2058 times:
I was told it was due to the aircraft not getting ETOPS certification, therefore meaning the flight has to take a more northerly route, thus adding to the flight time, and quite considerably so on the LGW-BDA flights.
YZFOO7F From Canada, joined May 2005, 157 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1985 times:
Quoting Drgmobile (Reply 4): 30-40 hour delays on flights in Canada, eh? Damn, I will have to remind myself of that next time I am considering a spontaneous holiday and get tempted by an ultra low fare.
Thankfully its getting better as the years go on. I worked a departure out of YOW that took a 27 hour delay two years ago. Management didn't want to allow people to leave the airport because the thought was that we'd be able to up and go at any given time. It actually got some of the pax on A-Channel news saying they felt like they were "in prison at the airport".
The fares can be unbeatable, but you have to be willing to take a hit on your vacation time.
TXKF2010 From Bermuda, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1697 times:
Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 3): I was told it was due to the aircraft not getting ETOPS certification, therefore meaning the flight has to take a more northerly route, thus adding to the flight time, and quite considerably so on the LGW-BDA flights.
The delays to Bermuda weren't so much due to not gettin ETOPS but because Zoom wasn't allowed/given move direct routing. They had to go up over Greenland then down to Bermuda. But as of the middle of this month they where given the "direct route" that BA gets so that should cut down on delays.
FCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1510 times:
Quoting TXKF2010 (Reply 6): The delays to Bermuda weren't so much due to not gettin ETOPS but because zoom wasn't allowed/given move direct routing.
They were given the northenly routing, that is correct, but this was BECUASE they had no ETOPS, which they now do, and not because someone in BDA/LGW decided to send them the long way around, just for fun!
They had to fly the longer route as a kind of proof to the CAA - Don't forget that it has been a LONG time since a "UK" Aairline has applied for ETOPS.
Yeah now if thats not a idiotic remark, I don't know what is. Zoom is a low cost airline, and thats the main thing that should be stipulated here. For a long time Bermudans only had BA and its only now that the price of tickets are coming down.
Zoom's problem for a long time now was that they did have ETOPS but they did not have the right ETOPS rating designated to fly a shorter more direct route. Isin't it sort of a rule where airlines have to fly an amount of time without any huge maintenance or safety issues for an amount of time before they can have an upgraded rating?