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NW Planes To PSP 1996-2002  
User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Hi everyone this is my first A.net post so here I go. Does anyone know what kind of planes NW flew from MSP-PSP 1996-2002? I used to fly this route as a kid every year but I don't remember what kind of planes they were. I think it might of been an MD-80 the first couple years and then maybe an A320?

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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7533 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Looking through the BTS it appears to be A320's and later A319's. Interesting note, in 1996 NW flew DC-9's to ALO.


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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

I have some NW timetables from 2000-2001.

From 12/19/2000 - 1/3/2001, NW flew one A320 daily to MSP, which continued to MCO daily.
From 1/31/2001 - 3/31/2001, NW flew one A320 daily to MSP, which continued to ORD on weekdays.
From 4/1/2001 - 4/30/2001, NW flew one A320 daily to MSP, which continued to DCA every day except Saturdays.
From 5/1/2001 - 5/31/2001, NW did not fly to PSP.
From 6/1/2001 - 8/31/2001, NW did not fly to PSP.
From 9/1/2001 - 10/27/2001, NW did not fly to PSP.

If you have any other questions about NW flights in these times let me know.


User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 1):
Looking through the BTS it appears to be A320's and later A319's.

do you know if they flew MD-80s to ontario, CA in 96?


User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3803 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

From Northwest timetables effective the dates shown:

Jan. 31, 1996: PSP-MSP, Sunday only, 320
Dec. 18, 1996: PSP-MSP, daily, 320
April 5 - April 30, 1998: PSP-MSP, daily, 320, discontinued April 13
Jan. 5, 1999 - Jan. 30, 1999: PSP-MSP, daily, 320
Jan. 31, 1999 - April 3, 1999: PSP-MSP, daily, 320
April 4, 1999 - April 30, 1999: PSP-MSP, daily, 320
May 1, 1999 - May 31, 1999: no PSP-MSP service

Quoting NWA320 (Reply 3):
do you know if they flew MD-80s to ontario, CA in 96?

In both 1996 timetables referenced above Northwest operated MSP-ONT and return twice daily with MD-80 equipment.

[Edited 2007-08-25 21:37:28]

User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

Thank You! This makes sense because I remember deplaning using airstairs, and looking back to see and A320 in my favorite "bowling shoe" livery

User currently offlinePaladin87 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting NWA320 (Reply 3):
do you know if they flew MD-80s to ontario, CA in 96?

NWA flew MD80s into ONT until the fleet was retired several years after '96.


User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

Interesting that NW has continued to serve PSP, albeit seasonally, while completely dropping ONT in the last year or so. I don't know that PSP will ever become a year-round market for NW, but over the years the demand for service has been consistently strong during the periods it operates nonstop. For a couple of years, the flights were twice-daily during the peak demand period (Feb-Mar), but that hasn't happened since bankruptcy.

Every aircraft at PSP would have used stairs of some sort until 1999 when the now Sonny Bono Concourse debuted with its 8-loading bridges. It was a big step to upgrade the terminal, and one not everyone was in support of, because they felt it would take away from the experience, by removing the walk across the ramp and up/down the airstairs. But the design incorporates as much as possible to retain the mountain views, and does so successfully. The airport is expanding once again with a new Regional Concourse which will open by yearend. The place is lookin' very good, for those who haven't seen it lately.

AAflyguy

[Edited 2007-08-27 15:06:51]

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 7):
Interesting that NW has continued to serve PSP, albeit seasonally, while completely dropping ONT in the last year or so. I don't know that PSP will ever become a year-round market for NW, but over the years the demand for service has been consistently strong during the periods it operates nonstop. For a couple of years, the flights were twice-daily during the peak demand period (Feb-Mar), but that hasn't happened since bankruptcy.

With the new E175s/CRJ-900s they could serve PSP year round, like they did with YVR(E75 in the off peak season, mainline in the peak season).


User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Very good point COERJ145. Same could be said for UA with its on-again/off-again seasonal service from ORD. It operates with mainline during season, but can't do so for more than 6-months without the PSP station becoming a mainline station again (contractual obligation with the union). It could switch to an E170/175 for the other 6-months when demand is lower and would allow PSP to remain a contract station. Maybe that'll happen next year. The PSP market is growing enough to support it, but not sure what the yields would be like in the summer months on such a long stage length. AA retained summer PSP-ORD service for the first time this year (albeit only on weekends). I suspect if it performed at or above expectations, it may be expanded to operate more days per week next summer.

User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 7):
The place is lookin' very good, for those who haven't seen it lately.

Yes, when I flew there on Sun Country in March, it was looking a lot better than when I went last time in 2004. They improved things and got a new security checkpoint, which really speeds it up.


User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Yes, the new security checkpoint definitely eases the bottleneck that plagued the airport at its busiest outbound times during peak season. The average wait at peak was more than halved after the checkpoint opened early last year. There is even room to add another two lanes beyond what's currently in use. Room to grow!

Also, the area where the existing modular holdrooms (Gates 2 & 3) sit is going to be completely redesigned by the end of 2008. The buildings will be removed, and that entire section of the airside will be transformed into an oasis of sorts with heavy landscaping, pathways, bench seats, tables and chairs, retail & food/beverage concessions, a new children's play area, water feature and art pieces. It will be the first thing people see when exiting the security checkpoint, and also an area through which all arriving passengers must walk to access the terminal building. It will be, in essence, the heart of the airside, and will look and feel much more comfortable, welcoming, and inviting than it does today (and even now it's not too shabby).

Sun Country has picked up in its frequency of service to PSP, compensating for NW's decision not to fly that 2nd daily trip in peak. It appears the flight performed well, so perhaps they'll kick it up to daily for the upcoming winter season. As of now, looks to be the same pattern as last year, but there's time for it to change.

AAflyguy


User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 11):
Also, the area where the existing modular holdrooms (Gates 2 & 3) sit is going to be completely redesigned by the end of 2008. The buildings will be removed, and that entire section of the airside will be transformed into an oasis of sorts with heavy landscaping, pathways, bench seats, tables and chairs, retail & food/beverage concessions, a new children's play area, water feature and art pieces. It will be the first thing people see when exiting the security checkpoint, and also an area through which all arriving passengers must walk to access the terminal building. It will be, in essence, the heart of the airside, and will look and feel much more comfortable, welcoming, and inviting than it does today (and even now it's not too shabby).

Wow, that will be really nice, PSP is a has to be one of my favorite airports, and that will make it even better! It's fun going every year and seeing them improving an already beautiful airport!

Quoting AAflyguy (Reply 11):
Sun Country has picked up in its frequency of service to PSP, compensating for NW's decision not to fly that 2nd daily trip in peak. It appears the flight performed well, so perhaps they'll kick it up to daily for the upcoming winter season. As of now, looks to be the same pattern as last year, but there's time for it to change.

Yes, Sun Country is a great airline, I first flew them in 2004 and they get better every year. When I went to Palm Springs on March 1st, there was a terribile snowstorm and Northwest had cancelled all their flights, but Sun Country kept going. So, insted of having to wait days, I arrived in desert paradise only 30 minutes late!


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