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Status Of Seating Restrictions Into DCA  
User currently offlineTorch23 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 19 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Didn't the FAA/DHS lift the restriction that required passengers to stay in their seats for the final 30 minutes of flights into DCA? I ask because twice now in the last month (on NW and Spirit) the pilot has come on and told everyone to remain in their seats due to restrictions on flights into DCA. Did they put the restriction back on, or did my pilots just not get the memo?

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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting Torch23 (Thread starter):
Didn't the FAA/DHS lift the restriction that required passengers to stay in their seats for the final 30 minutes of flights into DCA? I ask because twice now in the last month (on NW and Spirit) the pilot has come on and told everyone to remain in their seats due to restrictions on flights into DCA. Did they put the restriction back on, or did my pilots just not get the memo?

AFAIK the restriction was lifted. I flew into DCA on AmEagle back in november, no announcement was made to remain in your seats 30 minutes prior.


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

I flew MIA-DCA in june and there were no restrictions into DCA. I will be flying in and out of DCA alot soon so be interesting to see if any pilots did not get the memo.


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User currently offlineASAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 171 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

They got the memo. I can assure you that on your specific flights the pilots were well aware of the current procedures into and out of DCA.

The past requirement that passengers stay seated 30 minutes prior to landing had the stipulation that if someone stood up the aircraft would divert.

What was changed is that the aircraft is no longer required to divert, however the pilots still have every right to ask you to remain seated if they choose, and it is now up to each individual crew to decide if they wish to enforce it.



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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

I feel that if the crew wishes to enforce this rule they are more than welcome to do so. It's such a simple measure that adds a little peace of mind when flying into such a sensitive location. Just give me ample warning so I can use the lav!

User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

The TSA Security Directive requiring passengers to remain seated for the last 30 minutes of flights in DCA was suspended in July 2005.

TSA Suspends 30-Minute Rule for Reagan National Airport - TSA (July 14, 2005)



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User currently offlineTorch23 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Thank you, ASAFA. Good to know for future flights.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 3):
however the pilots still have every right to ask you to remain seated if they choose, and it is now up to each individual crew to decide if they wish to enforce it.

Which is fairly redundant, since on most of the flights, the seatbelt sign is on the last 30 minutes anyway right  Smile

Jimbo



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User currently offlineIaddca From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

This had to be one of the silliest, cover-your-behind rules implemented by the TSA. 30 minutes out and you're still over the Robbinsville VOR near Trenton, RDU, or PIT. Great places, but not particularly vulnerable to terrorism. And anyone who wishes to stand during the last few minutes of the River Visual approach to RWY 19 is asking to be knocked around the plane anyway.

I just don't see Al Qaeda panicking because a NW pilot makes a 5 year old wet himself at the top of a descent over Southern Virginia.


User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

The reason for stop the 30 mins remained seats is due to that F/As not have enought time to do drink service for flight that is little over hour long. Also most of people currently know what to expect when flying into and out of DCA. Only one thing still remain same is sharp right taking off from north over the bridge.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 9):
The reason for stop the 30 mins remained seats is due to that F/As not have enought time to do drink service for flight that is little over hour long.

It never stopped the F/As doing drink service did it?

...and I'm sure the TSA changed this rule because of drink service right???

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 9):
Only one thing still remain same is sharp right taking off from north over the bridge.

Do you mean a sharp LEFT turn when taking off TO the North?

Jimbo



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User currently offlineBoeing743 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Yes, I mean Left turn.

User currently offlineASAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 171 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 9):
The reason for stop the 30 mins remained seats is due to that F/As not have enought time to do drink service for flight that is little over hour long.

HAHA that's right, they changed the rule so the FA's would have time to do drink service!  Yeah sure

Sorry, try again.



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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 4):
I feel that if the crew wishes to enforce this rule they are more than welcome to do so. It's such a simple measure that adds a little peace of mind when flying into such a sensitive location. Just give me ample warning so I can use the lav!

How does pilots' enforcing such a rule give you peace of mind? If banning standing up during the last 30 minutes into DCA (but not over IAD & BWI?) makes things more secure, why not extend the argument to banning standing up while within 30 minutes of populated areas (i.e. most land)? The warning to use the lav would be made before boarding.


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