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Air Afrique Is Back, Sorta--1st Flight In MAR08?  
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17659 posts, RR: 46
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4457 times:

Sorry--it's only in French:

Les premiers vols de la compagnie Air CEMAC prévus pour mars 2008

http://www.jeuneafrique.com/jeune_af...e.asp?art_cle=PAN70027lesvosramru0

*The first flights of Air CEMAC are expected in March 2008
*4 out of the 6 partner countries have already conceded air traffic rights to the company
*In December 2001 the chief of states decided on the creation of this carrier with a backing of 21 billion FCFAs (about 43.7 Million dollars?)
*Not much word on the aircraft other than "not many"
*Countries involved are Chad, Gabon, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinee, Central African Republic, and the Congo (Brazzaville)
*SN Brussels is somehow linked to the project but they are waiting on contributions from the member countries (good luck with that)


E pur si muove -Galileo
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User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

Too bad that somehow nobody noticed this thread....

From the article in Jeune Afrique:

"Malgré tous les efforts consentis pour mener à terme le projet, beaucoup d'hommes d'affaires de la sous-région ne se sont pas montrés intéressés. Les spécialistes ont interprété cette participation minime à une très faible implication des gouvernements des différents Etats dans la mobilisation de leurs opérateurs économiques."

So indeed very few private companies are interested in participating in the project, thus it seems becoming another Air Afrique indeed. SN Brussels is apparantly waiting for more participation, before joining.

Note that another new version of Air Afrique is planned in West-Africa. In the ECOWAS-region the countries have agreed, in principle, to launch a regional airline, currently with the working name EcoAir. This not only includes the French-speaking countries but as well Nigeria and Ghana.


User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

Gabon is participating? Isn't Air Gabon around anymore???

User currently offlineFlitemax From Spain, joined Aug 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3985 times:

The headline of this thread is misleading. The new company would have nothing to do with the defunct Air Afrique! New assets, new employees, and certainly zero debts initially!

It's very interesting to notice:

1- The participation of Equatorial Guinee, since it's not a French-speaking ex-colony but Portuguese. Nice to see linguistic barriers dismantled.
2- The non-participation of Cote d'ivoire and Senegal, the 2 major contributors to the former RQ.

Wishing the new company success and profit! This will necessitate that governments involved avoid interference, which ruined RQ.

Quoting KL577 (Reply 1):
currently with the working name EcoAir.

Don't hold your breath. EcoAir has been on the drawing table since 2003, with no progress.


User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3953 times:

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 3):
Equatorial Guinee

Equatorial Guinee is an ex-spanish colony and not portuguese. They speak spanish there too. I think you must be mistaken with Sâo Tomé & Principe.



Flying Together
User currently offlineFlitemax From Spain, joined Aug 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 4):
Equatorial Guinee is an ex-spanish colony and not portuguese. They speak spanish there too. I think you must be mistaken with Sâo Tomé & Principe.

I stand corrected. In this case, it's still a relief to see linguistic barriers blurred.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3935 times:

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 3):
the former RQ.

RK


User currently offlineKL577 From Netherlands, joined Oct 2006, 776 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 3):
1- The participation of Equatorial Guinee, since it's not a French-speaking ex-colony but Portuguese. Nice to see linguistic barriers dismantled.
2- The non-participation of Cote d'ivoire and Senegal, the 2 major contributors to the former RQ.

Since both are not members of CEMAC, it makes sense they are not involved. If EcoAir ever get's of the ground, these countries could be involved. The bottomline is that there is no reason for either of the two, to step in and create an Air Afrique-revival. Air Senegal International and Air Ivoire are doing well, with connections to the premium market in France and connections to their respective neighbours. Neither country stands anything to gain from such a new airline. It's only their smaller neighbours, i.e. Mali, Niger, Burkina who stand to gain something.


User currently offlineAirlittoralguy From France, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Air Gabon is not flying anymore, however, Gabon airlines is now flying .


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User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

So is this the final nail in the coffin of Cameroon Airlines?


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 9):
So is this the final nail in the coffin of Cameroon Airlines?

Camair will be privatised this year by the government, but an initial partnership deal with SN Brussels Airlines was later cancelled for unclear reasons. However, I expect the Cameroonian government to be more interested in reviving Camair rather than setting up Air Cemac in cooperation with the neighbouring countries.

A private airline is being set up in Cameroon too: New Airline For Cameroon (NACAM) (by ENU Aug 30 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2759 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting Flitemax (Reply 3):
The headline of this thread is misleading. The new company would have nothing to do with the defunct Air Afrique!

Well, not untrue. I would have prefered if the headline of this thread would have been correct: Air Afrique operated almost all kinds of jets available of Boeings, DC and Airbus, for which I loved them...

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User currently offlineVarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1603 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

btw, anyone knows what happened to the RK A332s?
they were delivered just before bankrupt and then?



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2759 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Quoting Varig md-11 (Reply 12):
btw, anyone knows what happened to the RK A332s?
they were delivered just before bankrupt and then?

... and since then they are flying for Eurofly: msn358 as I-EEZA and msn364 as I-EEZB


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