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Did HP Fly MCO-LAS In 1997?  
User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Did HP ever fly MCO-LAS back in 1997?

Simple question and thanks for any help!

DeltaWings


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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2072 times:

One more thing that interests me: Was flight HP2561 from MCO to PHX or to LAS?

thanks



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User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

HP2561 was from MCO-PHX. It does not look like HP served LAS from MCO in 1997. They served PHX, CMH and TPA.

I was surprised about TPA. The only thing that I am not sure of, is whether or not the TPA flight may have continued on to LAS.

Hope this helps!

Dave


User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

It actually looks like HP2561 flew LAS-TPA-MCO-PHX-LAS. Definitely one of the more interesting routings i've seen. Looks like it was flown with a 757-200.

User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

OK thanks alot. So HP2561 was infact MCO to PHX that carried on to LAS with the same flight number?!

Thanks again

DeltaWings



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User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Quoting COEWRNJ (Reply 3):
It actually looks like HP2561 flew LAS-TPA-MCO-PHX-LAS

I worked for HP in LAS 1994-1998 and IIRC, 2561 was a red eye LAS-TPA-MCO that returned to LAS the next morning, through PHX with the same flight number.

HP also had an evening MCO-TPA-LAS 757 flight. It may have been flight 564.



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User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

I flew these flights around the time period you mentioned. I was an UA minor (14) flying to MCO. My routing was SEA-LAS-TPA-MCO. The SEA-LAS leg as an A320, then a very long layover in LAS before leaving for the LAS-TPA-MCO night run on the 752. As a young kid flying alone; it was quite the ordeal!

User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

OK it all comes back to me now: I flew on HP2561 MCO-PHX back on July 18 1997. I checked the flight on bts.gov and for sure it was a 757, I had that in memory. However we had actually bocked the flight straight through PHX to LAS. But I remember on that day must have been some kind of schedule change or something may have gone wrong with our 757, because in PHX we had to get off and board a 733 on to LAS. I remember clearly how the gate agent was calling out passengers who may take the next flight to LAS, as the 733 was now clearly overbooked. This flight from PHX to LAS still had the HP2561 designation.

But theres something I found confusing on bts: the daily 757 flight from MCO arrived in PHX at 09:55. That 757 normally then continued on to LAS at 10:55. Lets say it was N906AW. But I found that N906AW on the same day in PHX takes off to ATL, or EWR at 09:25, BEFORE it arrives from MCO. How can N906AW that be available for LAS at 10:55?? It is like this on every day that I checked.

DeltaWings

BTW, do PHX and LAS share the same timezone?

[Edited 2007-08-29 11:31:43]


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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Just for clarification, can it be that PHX, which lies in Nevada changes it’s timezone to pacific time in the winter?


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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6836 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

in the summer Phoenix is MST, Las Vegas is PDT.

User currently offlineCbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1555 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 9):
in the summer Phoenix is MST, Las Vegas is PDT.

Nope...other way around. In Winter Phoenix is MST and in summer PHX is PDT. Vegas is always PDT!!!



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Quoting Cbphoto (Reply 10):
Nope...other way around. In Winter Phoenix is MST and in summer PHX is PDT. Vegas is always PDT!!!

Wrong...PHX is MST year around. it just happens that MST and PDT are the same time in the summer time. Las Vegas goes back to PST when the clocks are changed in October or November whenever it happens this year.


User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1555 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 11):
Wrong...PHX is MST year around. it just happens that MST and PDT are the same time in the summer time. Las Vegas goes back to PST when the clocks are changed in October or November whenever it happens this year.

What???? thats doesn't make any sense. You are telling me that Denver and LA are on the same time during the summer? Yes, I see your point that yes, technically PHX is MST year round. But because it does not participate in day light savings, when the country goes back an hour, we will then be on MST and Vegas will be one hour behind us.

"Arizona (AZ) (in summer) is on Pacific Time, (winter) Mountain Time."
As per WordAtlas.com, if you do not believe me!!!

[Edited 2007-08-30 07:40:54]

[Edited 2007-08-30 07:42:34]


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User currently offlineCross757 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 12):
What???? thats doesn't make any sense. You are telling me that Denver and LA are on the same time during the summer?

No...Denver and LA are still one hour apart in the summer...Arizona just does not recognize daylight savings time, but I wish they did. But if you are a morning person, Tucson in the summer is the place for you: the sun is up by 5 am!

On a side note, when did HP dismantle their "hub" at CMH? I had a friend that flew CAE-MCO-PHX-ABQ on HP, I believe in about 1994 or so, but I don't have any timetable to back that up.


User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Ok, but back to the topic: Could someone maybe explain the weired schedule on bts that I referred to in reply 7? Would you Jeremy, who worked for HP perhaps know what is ment?

It looks more like an error to me

Thanks



Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen.
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1660 times:

Quoting Cross757 (Reply 13):
Arizona just does not recognize daylight savings time,

The NE part of Arizona does switch to Daylight savings time, always caused alot of confusion when doing business on the Indian reservation.

Back of topic back in 1997 didn't most of HP's east coast flights left PHX in the afternoon so they would be in place for the evening flights back to LAS?

[Edited 2007-08-30 16:37:29]

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