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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10217 times:

Seen here at MAKS 2007, a Tu-204-120E (CU-TI70I) destined for Cubana:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/01cut1701.jpg

Here is it's freighter cousin:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/01cu-c1700.jpg

Regards,
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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10106 times:


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Indeed, a very nice looking plane... could be called "Airbuski A321"  Wink


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26999 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10097 times:

The Cubana Airbus A321 looks really nice .......errr I mean the TU-204 ...LOL....

Anyway nice looking AC and congrats to CU. Wouldnt mind flying on one. Anyone got any interior pics???


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10085 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
The Cubana Airbus A321 looks really nice .......errr I mean the TU-204 ...LOL....

Anyway nice looking AC and congrats to CU. Wouldnt mind flying on one. Anyone got any interior pics???

Dont forget that the TU-204 was designed in the 80's, before the A321  Wink


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10076 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
Indeed, a very nice looking plane... could be called "Airbuski A321"

Looks more like a pirated copy of the 757 to me. Big grin



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10028 times:

Dimensions :

Tu 204
Wing span 41.80m (137ft 2in), length 46.10m (151ft 3in), height 13.90m (45ft 7in). Wing area 182.4m2 (1963.4sq ft).

A 321
Wing span 34.09m (111ft 10in), length 44.51m (146ft 0in), height 11.76m (38ft 7in). Wing area 123.0m2 (1320sq ft).

B 757
Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).


Tu 204 / B757 :


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TU 204 / A321 :


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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10010 times:
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Which routes will serve the Tupolev Tu-204?

Supposed to be domestic (SCU and HOG), Canada, Dominican Republic and Mexico. Any announced route with schedules?

Gerard



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User currently offlineGabo787 From United Kingdom, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9968 times:

For me it looks more like a 757 with the A320 nose, lovely plane anyway.
Are this birds with an english cockpit and only 2 man crew, like the IL-96-300's that they already got??


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9894 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4):
Looks more like a pirated copy of the 757 to me.

You hit it right on, "a pirated 757".


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9819 times:

I had the chance to fly on a TU 204 twice, with Air Cairo on BEY-SSH and SSH-BCN. It is a great powerful aircraft with really a "western aircraft look" inside.


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User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9815 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6):
Which routes will serve the Tupolev Tu-204?

Supposed to be domestic (SCU and HOG), Canada

Would they let the plane fly over US airspace?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9729 times:

Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10):
Would they let the plane fly over US airspace?

Why Not ? Because it's a Russian made airplane ? or because it's Cubana ?

In any case, Cubana is already flying to Canada ... and Russian made airplane already fly over US airspace and even land in the U.S !

Cubana Tu-154 at JFK :


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9725 times:

Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10):
Would they let the plane fly over US airspace?

Why on earth wouldn't they?


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9666 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
or because it's Cubana ?

I guess this is what he meant.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9578 times:

Nice.  Cool
Now will this fill the void that Cubana has for medium range aircraft?
They already have the IL-62 and IL-96 for longhaul and were using them for short haul routes. The Yak-42D doesn't fly to Toronto.



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User currently offlineSIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9511 times:

Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148.
I think they will use them on domestic and caribean routes.
Tu-204 will fly to Canada and South America.
Il-96 to Europe and sometimes on charter flights to Canada to bring more toursists.
I will fly from Caracas to Havana and return next year (May). Hope to fly the Tu-204 and Il-96!


User currently offlineJj From Algeria, joined Jun 2001, 1227 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9471 times:

What's Cubana's fleet right now? And how many new aircraft are they expecting?

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9331 times:

Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15):
Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148.
I think they will use them on domestic and caribean routes.
Tu-204 will fly to Canada and South America.
Il-96 to Europe and sometimes on charter flights to Canada to bring more toursists.
I will fly from Caracas to Havana and return next year (May). Hope to fly the Tu-204 and Il-96!

What about the IL-62?
Their IL-62s are one of the last build and are rather new with lots of life left in them.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9246 times:

I would have preferred to see their colors on a B757, but that's OK. Good option for CUBANA!

User currently offlineAeroMexico777 From Mexico, joined Oct 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9230 times:

HI

Can we expect that beauty here in MEX?

Regards,
AeroMexico777



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9189 times:

Quoting AeroMexico777 (Reply 19):
Can we expect that beauty here in MEX?

No doubt they will go to MEX.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9167 times:

How are they paying for the aircraft (i.e., how do the Russian sell the stuff)? In Russian currency, in USD or as part of a barter deal.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9128 times:

Non-Russian country buying Russian aircraft... if only more companies could do this!

(More Russian planes in our skies!)


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9091 times:

I can't say I'm all that excited though, the Tu204 in Cubana's mostly white scheme looks too western. Like some A321, 757 or something. I hope it doesn't replace the IL62s (although it probably will) on those routes around the neighborhood.

Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15):
Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148.

Wow I didn't even know this. When did they order it?

That's one small jet that isn't your typical boring twin. T-tail, wing on top of fuselage. Now that's cool.


Cubana is flying more Russian types than Aeroflot right now lol


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9054 times:

Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10):
Would they let the plane fly over US airspace?

Certainly.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11):
... and Russian made airplane already fly over US airspace and even land in the U.S !

In the case of CU, a landing in the US would have two reasons:

1. Diversion (which is highly unlikely)
2. VIP flight to the United Nations (just like IR did for last year's UN general assembly)

Remember the AN-24 that is stored in Florida (I believe in FLL). After the aircraft landed in the US, it was immediately repossessed for auction (AFAIK this may be a consequence of the trade embargo).

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Now will this fill the void that Cubana has for medium range aircraft?
They already have the IL-62 and IL-96 for longhaul and were using them for short haul routes. The Yak-42D doesn't fly to Toronto.

I'd say it will fill the void for medium capacity aircraft, a void that was left after the TU-154s were phased out. Remember that CU also operates Irish registered A320s through an ACMI from TA.

Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15):
Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148.

Will those replace the Yak-42Ds?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
What about the IL-62?

Technically it can land in the US, no matter which operator, but the problem here is noise. The IL-62M (the ones with the four Soloviev D-30s) is barely, if not at all, Chapter 3 noise compliant, so if one of them were to land in the US, the landing fees could go way up because of the noise issue. It would be worse with the original IL-62 model with the Kuznetsov NK-8 engines (aircraft with those engines are banned from EU airspace for noise reasons).


25 Post contains images OV735 : Yup. And later on Boeing pirated the 757 winglets off of the Tu-204.
26 Post contains images Teme82 : Tell your Government to stop the embargo.
27 SIBILLE : I'm sure about the 3 An-148 order but I'm not sure about a MA-60 order. I read an article about MA-60 for Cubana a few month ago (don't remember if in
28 Superfly : That's good to know. I think by the time the IL-62s get too old (10-15+ years from now), a new government might be in place and I doubt they'll be bu
29 LTU932 : That's what I was thinking, hence my earlier question. I mean, the Yak-42Ds, while still an important workhorse for CU, is slowly becoming too loud f
30 VHECA : Like it has been said in other Russian-manufacturer posts previous, it is good to see an industry that was so dominant in the '60's and suffered treme
31 Gunsontheroof : Sweet! Looks great, can't wait to see it at...oh, yes...never mind! Really though, the Tu-204 is a slick looking plane. Too bad they aren't more proli
32 B752fanatic : Cool, I asked not because I thought they shouldn't just because I thought since the cold war had restarted if they were any restrictions on these rus
33 Whappeh : The 204 is, in my highly unexpert opinion, the best looking aircraft of all time.
34 Post contains images Analog : They can't hear us (US?) because of the noise from the IL-62.
35 LH648 : Looks like Cubana is flying more Russian types than almost any Russian : ) Only Rossiya Airlines is ahead. Rossiya Airlines: Tu134, Tu154, Il86, Il96
36 SIBILLE : Domodedovo has (or had) Yak-42. Kras Air is operating both Tu-204 and 214.
37 Post contains images Teme82 : Then you shall write to them Since they can't hear you since IL-62's are making so loud noise over DC.
38 Post contains images RussianJet : Here we go again. It has two wings and two engines - oh my God, it must be a rip-off of another plane.
39 LH648 : Domodedovo don't have Yak-42 in their fleet anymore. 214 is stretched 204 for me, so I put them together as 2x4.
40 Post contains images Superfly : I think you meant to type IL-96.
41 Post contains images LTU932 : Take a vacation to CUN or SDQ, and you may see them there in the future. Or you can fly down to GUA and take CU's Yak-42s to SJO (if GUA allows 5th F
42 A350 : Are the Il-62s flying on a scheduled base? A350
43 Rlorenzo24 : Cubana has one of the worst safety records in the world. Those russian made a/c fall out of the sky like coconuts.
44 LTU932 : Source please.
45 Post contains images MD90fan : Yes, Off-hand, Nassau and Santo Domingo get them. Only 36 posts and your posting this rubbish already? Yes, I'm pretty sure Guatemala City, Nassau, S
46 Post contains images A350 : For the russian made a/c or the coconuts? A350
47 LTU932 : I believe GRU may also have scheduled IL-62 service. Don't know about CCS, though I presume CCS is only getting the IL-96.
48 Rlorenzo24 : The daughter of my father's cousin who works in customs at the Jose Marti airport, that's who. Do you think they have an obligation to report it to t
49 Post contains images MD90fan : Cubana hasn't flown to GRU since early 2005. IIRC they stopped when TAM began 2x weekly charters to HAV. CCS gets everything! lol IL-96 (to "ferry do
50 ACVitale : The Yak42 is a little scary. Have seen some rough models in W Africa. The An-24 is a workhorse that I would trust over the MA-60 any time. The MA-60 i
51 LTU932 : I see. What about GIG? Is GIG served by CU as scheduled service or just for the occasional charters, like during the Panamerican Games this year? Dam
52 Post contains links SIBILLE : Lao Airlines seems to be happy with their two MA-60. They have to more on order (+ 2 ARJ21) Here is the link about 4 MA60 order for Cuba. http://www.
53 Post contains links and images Superfly : Yes, I flew one out of Cancun. Laos Aviation View Large View MediumPhoto © Zhang hua
54 Post contains links SIBILLE : Here is the link http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...t-deal-for-arj21-regional-jet.html
55 Superfly : The IL-18 is not in regular passenger service. They have one listed in their name but it is not flying and if it is, it is not carrying fare paying p
56 MD90fan : That ended Cubana's service to Brazil, of course they periodically fly there to bring Cuban workers home and for the occasional charter. They withdre
57 ACVitale : So does the Y-7/MA-60/A-24 enjoy parts and support commonality (Excluding Engines and Avionics) if so that may be how Lao Aviation is getting support?
58 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I seem to remember there was a member of this forum who was able to book a ticket for a round-trip in February/March of this year on the Il-18 out of
59 LH648 : ooops, yes, sure. Thank you.
60 Superfly : I was refering to Cubana but thanks for the update. I can't fly in to North Korea. Our government doesn't allow it and unlike Cuba, Americans aren't
61 Post contains links and images PlymSpotter : If you really want to go, they do allow it these days, but it's only been in the last couple of years that it's possible. There are special tours whi
62 Superfly : Thanks but I have no desire to visit North Korea.
63 IADCRJ : Is'nt there a number of smaller Russian airlines that were not mentioned on these lists that still operate a decent number of Tu134 and 154 aircrafts
64 Post contains images PlymSpotter : There's an incredibly large number actually, so many throughout Russia and the ex soviet block countries in fact, that it's just about impossible to
65 AF2323 : the 214 is a higher max take off weight version of the 204, but dimensions are the same.
66 Juanchito : That would be great to see this beautiful airplane here in Guatemala City. Juanchito
67 Post contains images LTU932 : If SJO gets it, it's very certain that GUA gets it as well, since both destinations are served on a triangular routing (HAV-GUA-SJO-HAV).
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