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When Will UK Queen & Gov Get Widebody Jet  
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1084 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9706 times:

Many reports said that as soon as Mr. Brown takeover he will order a widebody for Queen personal use and for his duty abroad (which is quite alot).
Now Mr. Brown is heading the government and i think nowadays he need a private jet where he can run the government while he is travelling. Even the Queen should travel in style, she is a head of state for more than independent 15 countries.
What if the USA decided to give a B777 or B787 or France giving A330 or A340 as a gift for the UK? would they rejected?
How much it is costing the UK government for the overseas travels?

Furthermore, what do you think personally the UK government should have (Aircraft type & Livery).

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Every time this is spoken of, the UK media goes mad, causing the tree-huggers to go mad...

Will it happen soon? I hope so, it'd be nice...


User currently offlineCaptainsimon From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9669 times:

NO way should my money as a tax payer be used to fund the purchase of private jets, not until the state of out NHS and education is sorted out.
Our government and Queen have no need for a private plane, the RAF use a 146 to ferry the Queen on many visits.

We have a national airline with frequent flight all over the world for our government and we have Easyjet and Ryanair for the European flights.


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1084 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9611 times:

Quoting Captainsimon (Reply 2):
NO way should my money as a tax payer be used to fund the purchase of private jets, not until the state of out NHS and education is sorted out.
Our government and Queen have no need for a private plane, the RAF use a 146 to ferry the Queen on many visits.

We have a national airline with frequent flight all over the world for our government and we have Easyjet and Ryanair for the European flights.

What is the difference between your Queen and Emperor of Japan, why he is flying on a Private 747 and yours only 146 ?
don't you think a respected person like her should have at least A330/B777. That will give more dignity to the Kingdom


User currently offlineKq787 From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9582 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
What is the difference between your Queen and Emperor of Japan, why he is flying on a Private 747 and yours only 146 ?

the empeoror of japan does not have a private jet. the 747 that he uses on foreign trips is gov't-owned and also used by other high ranking japanese officials. the wealth of the royals was confiscated after WW2


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1084 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9564 times:

Quoting Kq787 (Reply 4):
the empeoror of japan does not have a private jet. the 747 that he uses on foreign trips is gov't-owned and also used by other high ranking japanese officials. the wealth of the royals was confiscated after WW2

The Queen do not own the palace she is living in, do you if an aircraft purchased will be for her personal belonging, sure no.
The point is that all G8 have their own aircrafts, but why not the UK.


User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9540 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 5):
The point is that all G8 have their own aircrafts, but why not the UK.

The RAF does operate BAe 146's, amongst others, for the government and royals. If they need a long haul aircraft, they charter one from BA. Why would they need a larger aircraft that sits around most of the time?



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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1084 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9536 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 6):
The RAF does operate BAe 146's, amongst others, for the government and royals. If they need a long haul aircraft, they charter one from BA. Why would they need a larger aircraft that sits around most of the time?

It is a prestigious thing, the Kingdom that the sun never sets in have no widebody !!


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9509 times:
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Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
It is a prestigious thing, the Kingdom that the sun never sets in have no widebody !!

Perhaps the subjects of the British Crown are comfortable enough with their stature in both current and historical context that they do not feel they need a dedicated large plane to ferry their respective Head of State and Head of Government around the world?

Though maybe they do owe the royals something for losing the HMY Britannia. Big grin

[Edited 2007-08-28 22:03:24]

User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 904 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9504 times:

There is no need for anyone to have a Private Jet as it should always be used by all. I am sure the Queen is very happy in an old aircraft especially as it has 4 engines!! For long haul flights we only need to use on the the BA aircraft and that is fine . Flagwaving is not really necessary for us in the UK and anyway Gordon Brown would not let it be spent

User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5152 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9450 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
Many reports said that as soon as Mr. Brown takeover he will order a widebody for Queen personal use and for his duty abroad (which is quite alot).

PM to get two 'Blair Force Ones'
Tuesday, 20 June 2006

Prime Minister Tony Blair and the Queen are to get two dedicated planes to use on official trips, the BBC has learned.

One is likely to be a long-haul plane with 70 seats, while a 15-seater jet will be ordered for shorter flights, BBC correspondent James Hardy says.

Since 1944 US presidents have had their own plane for presidential travel.

Although the Queen will have first call on the aircraft, they are already being dubbed "Blair Force Ones". The Lib Dems and Tories have criticised the plan.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5098126.stm

Both aircraft due at the end of this year.



That'll teach you
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9400 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
or France giving A330 or A340 as a gift for the UK?

Like the French would ever the give the UK anything   

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
Furthermore, what do you think personally the UK government should have (Aircraft type & Livery).

Aircraft type - the best value for money. Airbus, Tupelov, Boeing, whoever I dont see that it should matter as long as it is safe and reliable

Livery - the cheapest, but with a union jack on

[Edited 2007-08-28 22:47:17]


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26978 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9357 times:

They should get a A330 for use by both the Government and HM the Queen. Also this jet should be used in airlifts of British nationals abroad if need be such as in the case of Tsunami/Bali bombings/Lebanon war etc.... that way it is the property of the people and is used for the countries needs as a whole.

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9338 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
They should get a A330 for use by both the Government and HM the Queen.

A330 would have the advantage of commonality with the AirTanker fleet, which will also be used for troop flights, and the Falkland Island scheduled service. So an head of state A330 could easily be integrated with this fleet when not needed for the Queen or Prime Minister. And of course it could be used for the airlifts you suggested



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9318 times:

Quoting Captainsimon (Reply 2):
NO way should my money as a tax payer be used to fund the purchase of private jets

You're forgetting one thing: The Queen also pays taxes, and she does that voluntarily, so if they were to buy private jets for a Royal VIP fleet, she would actually be contributing to the purchase with the taxes she pays.  Wink


User currently offlineDoor5right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9304 times:

Despite my passion for aviation I do believe I would rather see a replacement for the much missed Royal Yacht, Britannia before a new dedicated Government/Royal widebody.

I suspect Her Majesty would too!



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9252 times:

The British seem to have lived very well so far without a widebody for heads of State, they probably still do not need one.

Rather than saying that they should have one like other G8 members for prestige reasons, I believe it rather proves that those other G8 members could stop wasting their taxpayers' money on private jet fleets. Chartering a private aircraft when needed is prestigious enough.

Private jets belong to wealthy dictatures...


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21626 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9232 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 8):
Perhaps the subjects of the British Crown are comfortable enough with their stature in both current and historical context that they do not feel they need a dedicated large plane to ferry their respective Head of State and Head of Government around the world?

Sure. I believe Sarkozy went to see Bush in Maine using a Falcon 900. That's still travelling in style, and much more efficient than a huge 747 for only a few people.

The Queen is prestigious because of who she is, not what she has.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9214 times:

I think it is a good idea, it seems stupid for the queen to fly on a British Airways flight, She's the freaking queen!!! i think she deserves her own plane!!

User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9184 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
She's the freaking queen!!!

Not quite sure what you mean with your wild expression. She is The Queen!



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User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9160 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
What if the USA decided to give a B777 or B787 or France giving A330 or A340 as a gift for the UK?

Wouldn't that be generous... Big grin Why would France want to give the UK an A330/A340 anyway? The French Govt. is neither the owner, not even the major shareholder in EADS.

Quoting Captainsimon (Reply 2):
We have a national airline with frequent flight all over the world for our government and we have Easyjet and Ryanair for the European flights.

So you're saying an Irish airline should be used by the UK Royal family / Government?  smirk 
(In fact use of non British airlines on official business isn't that unusual...)

Quoting JRadier (Reply 6):
Why would they need a larger aircraft that sits around most of the time?

Spot on.  thumbsup  It's simply not needed.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 10):
Both aircraft due at the end of this year.

So what's due then?








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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 9072 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
When Will UK Queen & Gov Get Widebody Jet 

3rd November 2007.

It will be an ex NW DC-9.


User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9045 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 18):
Not quite sure what you mean with your wild expression. She is The Queen!

exactly, what kind of queen doesn't have her own plane, she should definitely have her own


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9037 times:

Quoting DL767captain (Reply 22):
exactly, what kind of queen doesn't have her own plane, she should definitely have her own

Maybe, after all this time she chose not have Parliament waste taxpayer's money (which includes the Queen's money, as I said, she DOES pay taxes and chose to do so voluntarily) on new aircraft just for a VIP fleet.


User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9023 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
That will give more dignity to the Kingdom

So does that mean the more aircraft a government operates, the more dignity the country has? Some might regard it incredibly wasteful, distasteful, etc. that many countries in the Middle East, such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, etc. have what some may consider to be excessive luxury fleets for their ruling families.


25 Post contains images CJAContinental : If you ask any american official how much air force one benefits the productivity of leading figures of government, then you'll find an aircraft that
26 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : I say the Dreamliner would be a very nice compromise..... View Large View MediumPhoto © Daniel Carlos Tan .....neither small, nor too big - and
27 Swiftski : Yes. It is imperative that it be an NW DC-9; it will then be converted in CWL and part of the Beluga fuselage added, along with a Tupolev 144 nose. I
28 Pnwtraveler : When the Queen is traveling to Canada on official business she either travels on a chartered flight or at times the Canadian version of the A310 calle
29 Par13del : No one seems to have questioned Captainsimon in reply 2 about the Uk having a national airline, can't be BA as we know from previous threads that they
30 EI321 : Thats only one side of the argument. How much does it cost each year to charter BA 777's? An awful lot is my guess. I believe that they should use on
31 VV701 : There are a number of practical reasons why Queen Elizabeth does not have her own aircraft. One of these is her unique position of being the Head of S
32 Antonovman : Its interesting to see m the Americans and other non Brits would like to see her have a private jet and the Brits think she shouldn't. I personally th
33 Post contains images WesternA318 : LMAO, Well, Nancy Pelosi asked for Air Force Two, lol. Mabe this is what HRH should fly in... or...
34 VHNSJ : last time i looked , the queen was worth billions, and didnt have to pay tax, so surely she could afford a small airline
35 Strathpeffer : Actually, it is far more dignified that the woman does not need an ostentatious aircraft to reassure herself that she is important. She also has a ke
36 UAEflyer : I thought he used the A342 Hmmm i am waiting for source My point is why she shouldn't? the government is paying heaps for foreigners and other non-im
37 Post contains links Nighthawk : well i dunno where you looked, cause thats a load of crap! How Much Is Queen Elizabeth Worth? John Pitman, 06.26.01, 7:00 PM ET NEW YORK - Queen Eliz
38 RussianJet : They really don't need a huge plane. There's nothing wrong with current options, and tree-hugging aside, it is extremely wasteful to see huge planes f
39 FoxXray : And why ? for vacations everybody need to use an A342 ??? With your point of view Sarkozy should have used the A342 to show our big airplane, then he
40 Post contains images Swiftski : JOKE JOKE JOKE
41 Post contains images ELAL 744 : Of course she needs her own plane – when she flew on Air New Zeeland, her first commercial flight – everyone complained she spent too much time on
42 Albird87 : I do beleive that at the beggining of this year, tony blair went to airbus to sort out the arrangements and configuration of an A330 for use for the
43 Post contains images FlySSC : France is very generous but why the Hell would they give an A330 or A340 to the U.K ??? First, the United Kingdom is rich enough to buy their own air
44 UAEflyer : let us take it in this case, if i gave a friend a gift he is rich and doesn't need a gift of $100, would he rejected. Did the US reject the statue of
45 FlySSC : UAEFlyer, the gift you mentionned had a Political and Cultural and Historical dimension. They were made under very special circumstances. It is of a t
46 SEPilot : Personally, I think the UK should have their own executive aircraft for the Queen and PM, but as I do not live or pay taxes there my opinion is less t
47 Jimbo27L : Not sure I understand what this means. As stated in a number of other replies here, Id like to see the NHS and education system sorted out....oh yeah
48 B7X7 : I thought when the RAF get their A330 Tankers, they will also use the A330 for the Queen and Government. Personaly I would love to see them have a 787
49 Post contains images FlySSC : Are they planning to carry a "liquified Queen" in those A330 Tankers ???
50 LongHauler : I agree. HRH is the picture of restraint and dignity ... she doesn't need the bright blue penis extension in which GW Bush flies.
51 Glom : That would be HM. Was it not she who vetoed previous Blair Force One concepts? How often does he use the VC-25 anyway? I thought that was only used a
52 SEPilot : And what was it when Clinton flew in it? Whenever the president flies he uses the VC-25.
53 JAAlbert : As opposed to me, who is forced to pay taxes under threat of fines and imprisonment!
54 Dk1967 : Doesn't security play a part into the decision to have dedicated transport for heads of state?
55 SEPilot : Absolutely, which is one of the biggest arguments for dedicated aircraft. The other is specialized communication and protection equipment. Knowing ev
56 HuskyAviation : What exactly is the British plan when it comes to national emergencies (e.g., nuclear war)? The US VC-25 is designed to be a secure mobile command cen
57 Post contains links Kcm572 : GW does not always use the VC-25. It has been replaced by smaller aircraft when needed. The USAF has several types of aircraft available for use such
58 Skyguy : Agree. Main reason for heads of government and other senior government personnel to travel on dedicated aircraft is not because of the prestige issue
59 Pmurr : The RAF needs a VIP wing the likes of which Australia has and equip it with B777/A330 which would then be available for use by the Government, the Mon
60 JKJ777 : What does a queen do anyway? "She queens, and vacuums" (Chevy Chase in National Lampoons European Vacation) The queen and royal family should purchase
61 747727 : The UK Government should have stepped in when Concorde was retired and made BA Keep them in service and then took one for themselves as they funded th
62 JRadier : try reading the whole topic again!
63 BCAL : Tony Blair had illusions of grandeur and often he portrayed himself as the Head of UK State like a major film star, rather than the Prime Minister (i
64 LTU932 : The C-32 is mostly used for the likes of the Secretary of State and even the First Lady when she's on an official mission. I presume GWB uses the C-3
65 VV701 : It is important to make a situation assessment before deciding on an investment in air transport for your head of state. Consider a Middle East poten
66 Post contains images Airbazar : Because it's wasteful and believe it or not, wasting tax payer's money is not a very dignified activity in some countries As pointed out earlier, the
67 Mpsrent : There is no need in making derogatory statements about the head of state of another nation just because you don't understand or appreciate their role
68 Jkj777 : There is clearly some ignorance in my not knowing what a queen does. Take a survey of Americans, and I guarantee you 85% plus of people here will not
69 Baexecutive : Hmm your not the brightest bunch are you? LOL
70 Jkj777 : We never studied the history and significance of the royal family here in the states. I learned a little about it in college but that was it. As you
71 HuskyAviation : I figured that there would be a ground-based emergency evacuation/command center for the British government, but I always understood that AF1 was des
72 Post contains images Star12 : I just cannot see why some people think that the British Government and/or Monarchy should get a wide-body airliner for business/personal travel. It j
73 VV701 : A little more seriously than my other contributions to this thread, neither the US President nor the UK Prime Minister would leave their respective c
74 777236ER : The 14 A330MRTTs can be used as VIP transport, although they're only online from 2011 though.
75 Post contains images UAEflyer : Hope she live until the due date
76 Baexecutive : Personally I think that the Royal Family/PM & Government officials should be using whichever type of aircraft is the most efficient price wise, if tha
77 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Or these, to relive the glory days of Hawker Siddeley..... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ies-hawker-900xp-certificated.html The Global Expre
78 Joni : The difference is that the emperor is descended from the Sun God, whereas the queen is not. Therefore she she flies a narrowbody and he a 747. But se
79 UAEflyer : Excellent said an A320 would be fine for the United Kingdom
80 AirNZ : May I ask you to tone down such a childish expression please. Her title is Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.
81 AirNZ : There is indeed, and you said it yourself! Furthermore, is there a special specific significance in what 85% of people there think of anything? You w
82 Glom : The modest Briton attitude may be a good idea. But if that's the line we're going down, then let's do it properly and ditch any Blair Force Ones. Let'
83 GDB : When we say a plane for the UK 'Queen and Prime Minister', what would really be the case is that such an aircraft would be used for general VIP duties
84 Baexecutive : Lets not bring politics into an aviation forum, the Queen is by far the worlds leading statesperson........leave it at that : )
85 Jkj777 : The queen is an out dated and unneceassary money spender as we see here in the states. It is fact and what Americans say, matters.....even if you dis
86 BlueSkys : She Pays Taxes with Tax Dollars..... Where the heck do u think she gets money from.... IMHO, Royal Families are about as useful as Cessna 150 on a tr
87 BlueSkys : What did she do to deserve it..... O yes, she was born of O royal Sea-men, sperm.... lol........ But honestly, I cant think of a better reason.
88 Aa757first : Aren't there security concerns about high ranking figures flying on a scheduled flight?
89 Glom : The money comes from her reasonably sizeable (though by no means huge by today's standards) estate. They have a lot of money in the bank. I'm compari
90 VHNSJ : just dont let prince charles fly them
91 UAEflyer : Thatcher was a Prime Minister on war, so it's more like emergency situation, so i think it is not fair to say how she used aircrafts during her time.
92 CXfirst : Both work. HM = Her Majesty HRH = Her Royal Highness Totally Agree. I think an Airbus at the size of A330/A340 would be perfect, not overally huge (A
93 UAEflyer : No it doesn't work only the queen or king called Her/His Majesty while all other members of the royal family (excluding the King/Queen) are called Hi
94 Columba : Most of the time I have seen him use the VC 25 even on flights within the USA. I personally think that on many flights the 757 or 737 or even the Gul
95 GDB : Jkj777, keep on with those great comments, then explain how, if Mrs Clinton runs, it will mean every US election since 1980, will have had either a Bu
96 Cjbmibe : Sorry to be picky but it was not "the HMY Britannia", it was HMS Britannia. The sailing vessel was indeed a yacht but it was HMS - Her Majesty's Ship
97 XT6Wagon : No, she did not No, she could not (as in impossible, not as in not permitted to) No, the reporting on that story was dishonest to be kind Anyhoo, on
98 HuskyAviation : I have my doubts as to this and it is contrary to everything I have ever read about the delivery of the B747 Air Force One in 1990. It was indeed del
99 UAEflyer : After all this wonderful 98 posts still the answer is not there. The question was WHEN will they have their own private jet. I read that she didn't ne
100 Post contains images Baroque : Most amusing post. Imagine the squabbling if a shared system were used to supply planes for visiting some of the smaller parts of the Commonwealth.
101 GDB : HuskyAviation, my response you cited, was a re-buttal to a dazzlingly arrogant, ignorant comment on something that clearly came from very little knowl
102 UAEflyer : To me VIP aircraft means that you are in the air or in your office it is equal. e.g: when Mr. Brown is on his way to SYD in a normal BA flight, would
103 Bwaflyer : The deputy prime minister and the rest of cabinet are there to look after the country. Gordy isn't the head of state, simply the leader of the party
104 UAEflyer : Couldn't agree more. Is there any propsal that MOD or 10 Downing street or maybe Royal House Hold submit to the parliment and it was refused? (a prop
105 VV701 : All 14 of the seats are removed from the First Class cabin in the nose of the aircraft. A large single bed is installed on each side of that cabin. S
106 BCAL : A good reply W701. AFAIK all British Prime Ministers must appoint a deputy to take over all his powers when s/he is indisposed. Whether or not the ap
107 Bongodog1964 : The fuel bill increase was probably less than the cost of hiring a plane from BA If nothing else the Royal family provide a very economical official
108 Humberside : Who is that now, since there is no designated deputy PM any more?
109 Post contains links and images VV701 : In my Reply 105 I forgot to mention the outside of the aircraft. As soon as it starts to taxi from the arrival runway a flag or flags are deployed fr
110 BCAL : As there is no official Deputy Prime Minister, theoretically The Queen can nominate someone to lead the Government following the death, resignation o
111 VV701 : Harriet Harman? She is the elected deputy leader of the Labour Party and therefore its second most senior member in the House of Commons. She is also
112 Post contains images HuskyAviation : VV701, The President is indirectly "elected" by an Electoral College, it is not a direct election. The candidates for each of 2 major parties are don
113 Post contains images Kanebear : He's not the exchequer anymore, don't be so sure about that. And as usual with such purchases, the person initiating the acquisition is gone before i
114 Glom : I believe that it is a constitutional precept that the Queen must choose a Prime Minister who would be the most likely to command the respect of the
115 GDB : Boondog, don't be so sure that the RAF was cheaper than BA, a range of circumstances chose what is tasked for a VIP, price being one of them, probably
116 Post contains images WhiteBirdFlyer : Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Queen had Boeing build a custom 787 for her? Then Boeing could be in line for the Royal Warrant and display it on all
117 UAEflyer : VV701 what a nice information you gave ,, many thanks to you
118 Humberside : And Labour Party Chairman if she hasnt enough jobs Am I right in thinking that as Leader of the House of Commons, she would stand in for the PM at Pr
119 StarGoldLHR : The US has America West and Delta.. both a jokes from the backyard garden.. do you see Mr Bush flying on them ? So why should our PM. At the end of t
120 BCAL : I would agree with you. Several reasons: The President is a Head of State whereas the PM is not; US likes extravagance and showing off, so it is only
121 Kanebear : It's the same thing in the US with WN. On quite a few flights, it's ALL business travellers. You can't do the schedules they do with leisure travelle
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