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A380 Next Deliveries  
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1073 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9327 times:

with the first plane due on October 15th, when will we see the next deliveries of A380s and to which customers?
how many planes are already flying and how many more fully assembled? Anyone with info?


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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9208 times:

Well Emirates first A380-861, Test reg F-WWSH and final reg A6-EDA is moving under it's own power at TLS.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=665663

Tom.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3768 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9204 times:

How many 380s have been built so far?


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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9156 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 2):
How many 380s have been built so far?

Depends what you mean by "built" as there's complete and ready for delivery that's only 1 but I think that there's about another 15 that look like A380s ie with wings and that. I remember about 18 months ago Leahy said that the first parts for the 32nd aircraft were being fabricated so I'm guessing that parts for 50 planes exist !

The next 3 planes for SQ are currently in Hamburg for rewiring and, as shown above, the first one for EK looks like it's ready to go for painting and interior - assuming that the re-wiring has been done in TLS rather than in Germany?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8983 times:
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Assuming Airbus is in a position to do serial deliveries, once SQ receives MSN003 this year, in 2008:

  • SQ will receive up to five additional planes
  • EK will receive up to six planes
  • QF will receive up to two

I am not sure if EY's four planes will be ready in 2008 (they're built, but they're all test-program birds so they need all the test equipment removed and then their cabins installed and possibly re-wired). If they are, then some of the SQ/EK/QF deliveries will likely be pushed back to 2009.


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8889 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):

I am not sure if EY's four planes will be ready in 2008 (they're built, but they're all test-program birds so they need all the test equipment removed and then their cabins installed and possibly re-wired). If they are, then some of the SQ/EK/QF deliveries will likely be pushed back to 2009.

Didnt EY defer deliveries of their aircraft earlier this year?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8854 times:
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Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Didnt EY defer deliveries of their aircraft earlier this year?

They might have. That would give the folks in Hamburg more time to get SQ, EK and QF birds out in 2008 since the EY refurbs will take some time, I imagine.


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 4089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8783 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 6):
They might have.

Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8635 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 7):

Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.

If I had to speculate, I would say that Kingfisher would be the most likely candidate to grab those test frames. They have recently expressed their interest in acquiring an earlier delivery date for their A380's (2009) and it would seem that it would be an ideal opportunity for Airbus if Kingfisher were to take hold of these frames.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8617 times:

Or could these be the order for 4 that EK placed in Feb/March this year?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8447 times:
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Quoting Moo (Reply 7):
Just confirmed it, they deferred until 2013. I wonder if Airbus will keep their aircraft around for 5 years or if they will see if another airline will take them.

There is no way Airbus will let five A388s sit on the ground, so they're going somewhere. WING's suggestion for IT seems as good as any.


User currently onlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
There is no way Airbus will let five A388s sit on the ground, so they're going somewhere. WING's suggestion for IT seems as good as any.

I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

Cheers!  wave 



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User currently offlineGlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7668 times:

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 11):
I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

Where did you hear these rumours? Interesting theory. They also are RR right?

GlobeEx



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User currently offlineTKV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7493 times:

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 12):
Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 11):
I heared rumours that these planes are to being used to persuade BA to order the A380. If BA orders the A380, they can lease those 5 frames for very convenient prices and add the planes earlier than 2012.

Where did you hear these rumours? Interesting theory. They also are RR right?

GlobeEx

Who would lease the planes ??

Does BA need such planes befor 2012 ??

TKV


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7383 times:

Here is the production list of the first A380. Dates indicated are the dates of the first flight.

msn 1 380-841 Airbus Industrie 27/04/2005 F-WWOW Active
msn 2 380-841 Airbus Industrie 04/11/2005 F-WXXL Active
msn 3 380-841 Singapore Airlines 07/05/2006 9V-SKA On order - to be delivered in October 2007
msn 4 380-841 Airbus Industrie 18/10/2005 F-WWDD Active
msn 5 380-841 Singapore Airlines 19/07/2006 9V-SKB On order
msn 6 380-841 Singapore Airlines 17/11/2006 9V-SKC On order
msn 7 380-841 Airbus Industrie 19/02/2006 F-WWJB On order
msn 8 380-841 Singapore Airlines 19/03/2007 9V-SKD On order
msn 9 380-861 Airbus Industrie 25/08/2006 F-WWEA Active
msn 10 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 11 380-841 Emirates A6-EDA On order
msn 12 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 13 380-861 Emirates A6- On order
msn 14 380-800 Qantas VH- On order
msn 15 380-841 Qantas VH- On order
msn 17 380-861 Air France F-HPJA On order - to be delivered in March 2009.
msn 18 380-861 Malaysia Airlines 9M- On order
msn 22 380-800 Malaysia Airlines 9M- On order
msn 23 380-861 Air France F-HPJB On order - to be delivered in May 2009.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7309 times:
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My original data shows MSN-017 and MSN-023 were for EK. Did EK defer delivery to allow AF to take them?

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2779 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7282 times:

FlySSC,

What does Active and On Order mean?


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2779 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7264 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 11 380-841 Emirates A6-EDA On order
msn 12 380-841 Singapore Airlines 9V- On order
msn 13 380-861 Emirates A6- On order

Which engine type is Emirates getting? 841 or 861?


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6894 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 16):
What does Active and On Order mean?

Active = aircraft built, and flying.

On Order = firmed order, still to be built.

-841 = Trent 970
-861 = GP7270

Quoting Stitch (Reply 15):
Did EK defer delivery to allow AF to take them?

Actually, I think EK did not defer deliverey to allow AF to take them ....AF took them because EK deferred delivery


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6710 times:
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Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
Actually, I think EK did not defer deliverey to allow AF to take them ....AF took them because EK deferred delivery

Got it.

Quoting United787 (Reply 17):
Which engine type is Emirates getting? 841 or 861?

All of EK's planes should be GP7270-powered -861s.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6518 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
msn 9 380-861 Airbus Industrie 25/08/2006 F-WWEA Active

As I understand it, isn't this bird officially an A380-841? I thought it was to be converted to RR power and delivered that way...the EA power was "temporary" in order to jumpstart the certification with the Engine Alliance powerplants.



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6459 times:

On Order = firmed order, still to be built.

could this also be interpreted as built or partially built. As I have seen an QF A380 already built with QF painted tail but fuselage still not painted.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6384 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 20):
isn't this bird officially an A380-841? I thought it was to be converted to RR power

Just a few weeks ago, in July 2007, F-WWEA msn 009 was still powered by EA engines, so still an A380-861


User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

Didn't Air France put off their planes till 2013?

Also any news on ILFC being able to place any of their frames? They have a few years to go before they have to cancel, but IMO they are by far the most likely to cancel.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31417 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5865 times:
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Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 23):
Didn't Air France put off their planes till 2013?

VS did. I don't recall AF deferring any deliveries.


25 Post contains images WingedMigrator : Should be 'active'. seems rather built to me... Nine currently flown, soon to be ten (MSN011), probably within the next week. Oversize road convoys h
26 Zvezda : I understand that delivery of the first tranche (ten aircraft) of SQ's WhaleJets is now expected to be complete in 2009. When is delivery scheduled fo
27 Express1 : Where did you get this info from? Interesting list!!!! dave
28 StarGoldLHR : After the 2nd A380 delay, AF deferred there deliveries to prevent a "3rd A380" delay.. so other airlines jumped the queue ahead of AF. Then Airbus an
29 Post contains images WINGS : I have Thanks for that. I have recently lost track with what is going on at Toulouse. Wasn't ILFC also to take some early delivery slots? Regards, Wi
30 Baroque : I have just come back from Sydney airport and QF must be fairly irritated at seeing Singapore 380 ads and models all over the place. I wonder when 14
31 Post contains links AirbusA346 : Just noticed this on F-WWSH Why has it got Pre painted Airbus House Livery Emergency Slide covers? http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=666203
32 Moo : Looks like it came off another aircraft - possibly only installed on MSN011 for the trip to Hamburg?
33 FlySSC : Air France will be the first European airline to fly the A380 and F-HPJA is due to be delivered for the summer program 2009 starting April 2009, with
34 Zeke : Your list is in error a little, some of the frames you have marked Airbus Industrie are going to EY. Next year the plan is for 13 aircraft to be deli
35 Ncelhr : Msn. 12-15 are due to leave the hangar soon. That will make some space.
36 WingedMigrator : We've come full circle.... EY has deferred their deliveries to 2013. See replies 7 through 11. In other news, I've seen clues that MSN011 (the first
37 Post contains images AirbusA346 : They were originally meant to go to EY once Airbus had finished with them. Tom.
38 Post contains links and images N14AZ : Here is a summary of the pictures currently available on the database. MSN 003 (SQ): arriving in TLS after finishing the works in XFW to be delivered
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