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John Travolta, A380 And A Cheeky Photo  
User currently offlineBOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 613 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 19408 times:

I didn't know that John Travolta had piloted an A380 ? How did he do ? I had the misfortune to see his movie Battlefield Earth, which really screwed up the story line of the book, and his acting is always "cheesy" IMHO but cheeky fun nonetheless. So, how did he get to fly an A380 ?

According to previous Airliners.net post , this was about a year ago? Any updates?

Previous Thread: John Travolta Flying the A380

http://news.com.com/2300-11397_3-6192489-6.html


BOACVC10


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User currently offlineAirTran717 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 19319 times:

The article you posted is interesting. And while it states that he flew the 380, the previous thread does not. I read the entire thread. Granted, the thread title says he did, but the content therein makes no reference to it at all.

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 19194 times:

Washington, June 23 (ANI): Hollywood star John Travolta has created history by becoming the first non-test pilot to fly the new Airbus A380 super jumbo.

http://airbus-a380-news.newslib.com/story/8420-1061/

The actor, who is a qualified pilot and flies himself around the world for filming and family vacations, was full of enthusiasm while telling about his experience of flying the Airbus A380.

"I was the first non-test pilot to fly the A380. It was a moment of history. It was fantastic. It's very easy to fly," Contactmusic quoted him as saying at the Paris Air Show on Wednesday.

"It was a handstick operation. It is very forgiving. If you make a mistake, it handles it for you thanks to the latest technical evolutions, whereas I am used to the older Boeing that is a much more hands-on type of flying," he added.

Travolta, however, denied that he was planning to purchase an Airbus A380 for himself.

"Now I have enough planes. Most of my time outside my profession is dedicated to my schooling in aircraft," he said. (ANI)


Regards,
Wings



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User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18704 times:

Well, I guess we can dismiss him as a mystery customer for an A380 or 748i executive aircraft. Could it be that he felt that considering the trouble he is having keeping his 707 at his house he might have even more trouble with one of those?
 Big grin



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18511 times:

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
Well, I guess we can dismiss him as a mystery customer for an A380 or 748i executive aircraft. Could it be that he felt that considering the trouble he is having keeping his 707 at his house he might have even more trouble with one of those?

Always make sure you make the solution worse than the problem.

Yes neighbours, I will happily replace my old noisy 707 in Qantas colors with a... 747-200 in Qantas colors... or a brand new A380 ... but you may not be able to see the sun with that one.

What? the 707 really is ok?

 Smile


User currently offlineFlanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 18232 times:

Man! What a guy. Id love it if i can fly that thing one day.


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User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2116 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17935 times:

The 380 doesn't make me jealous, but starring with ONJ in Grease does!!!!

User currently offlineAEroc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17907 times:

Must be nice to suck at acting but have the chance to fly the A380!

User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 460 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 17584 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):
I was the first non-test pilot to fly the A380. It was a moment of history. It was fantastic. It's very easy to fly,

Niki Lauda flew it earlier according to "Aero International". It was in the May or June issue of the newspaper.



Tom from Cologne
User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 17069 times:

Quoting Jbernie (Reply 4):

Always make sure you make the solution worse than the problem.

Yes neighbours, I will happily replace my old noisy 707 in Qantas colors with a... 747-200 in Qantas colors... or a brand new A380 ... but you may not be able to see the sun with that one.

What? the 707 really is ok?

Good approach; you should suggest it to him.



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
User currently offlineGlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16943 times:

Quoting Jbernie (Reply 4):
Yes neighbours, I will happily replace my old noisy 707 in Qantas colors with a... 747-200 in Qantas colors... or a brand new A380 ... but you may not be able to see the sun with that one.

What? the 707 really is ok?

Well I guess the A380 would be quite a lot quieter than the 707 he has now...........

GlobeEx



As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
User currently offlineJFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16337 times:

John Travolta cannot afford to purchase a brand new A380 maybe in 15 years that would be a different story.

He does not have 275 million dollars


User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16210 times:

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 11):
John Travolta cannot afford to purchase a brand new A380 maybe in 15 years that would be a different story.

He does not have 275 million dollars

Why let such mundane things as facts get in the way of a good story? The news media almost never does.



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 66
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15046 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):
"I was the first non-test pilot to fly the A380. It was a moment of history. It was fantastic. It's very easy to fly," Contactmusic quoted him as saying at the Paris Air Show on Wednesday.

I find it hard to believe that no line pilots from the customers have flown the 380 yet. So I'm going to call bulls*** on this one.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13571 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 2):
The actor, who is a qualified pilot and flies himself around the world for filming and family vacations, was full of...

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

The guy is "qualified" as a private pilot, airplane single engine land, and instrument. That's it.
He flies his family around insofar as he has a fully qualified crew who let him sit in the pilot seat and hold the controls when there is no one else aboard. AFAIK he makes motor noises with his lips when he does it.

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
I guess we can dismiss him as a mystery customer for an A380 or 748i executive aircraft.

You can buy a 707 and fly it for a year (at his usage level) for the price of a C-check on one of those airplanes.
Least I've ever heard of a 707 selling for was a flyable one with a very nice interior for about the price of a good used Bonanza at the time, $65,000

Of course he paid more I'm sure. He paid over $50K for his first DC-3 from a man who had paid $17.5 for it a month earlier.



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User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3074 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13372 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 13):
I find it hard to believe that no line pilots from the customers have flown the 380 yet. So I'm going to call bulls*** on this one.

Travolta is qualified as a "line pilot" on Qantas 744's.  Smile But in this case I'd say QF stuck him in the cockpit when it came to Australia as a publicity exercise and to give him a taste of things to come. I'd also suggest that he was up there with "real" QF pilots.

In any case, can you imagine the first Qantas A380 on it's inaugural run with John Travolta as a co-pilot? Oh the publicity!! Fly the 707 in, fly Wunala Dreaming in and then fly the A380 in last. etc etc


User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 13336 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 14):
rotfl rotfl rotfl

The guy is "qualified" as a private pilot, airplane single engine land, and instrument. That's it.

What is your source? I understood that he held a bunch of type ratings including 747; he owns a Gulfstream which I presume he flies himself, and that requires a multi-engine rating as well as a type rating. To act as first officer on either that or the 707 don't you have to be qualified on it? Neither are certified for single-pilot operation AFAIK.



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
User currently offlineHighflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 12731 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 14):
The guy is "qualified" as a private pilot, airplane single engine land, and instrument. That's it.

Yes it's true and and anyone can look it up on landings.com or through the FAA website. I've heard various reasons that Mr. Travolta never obtained an ATP including the fact that he never completed high school which is a prerequisite for the certificate.

That being said he is an outstanding ambassador to aviation. The naivete of the celebrity publicity machine is partly to blame for the mystique that he alone is in the Boeing 707 cockpit and it was he alone that landed the G-II over Washington when he suffered the total electrical failure in IMC some years ago. In fact John Travolta is smart enough to hire the best pilots he can and knows, even with 5,000 hours total time, he is no Boeing professional test pilot.


User currently offlineBaron52ta From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12144 times:

Airmen Database Search Result
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Name : TRAVOLTA, JOHN JOSEPH
Airman's Address : 15821 VENTURA BLVD STE 460
ENCINO, CA, 91436-4778
FAA Region : Western/Pacific
Date of Medical : Sep, 2005
Class of Medical : 1
Expiration of Class 1 : Mar, 2006
Airman Certificates : Private Pilot
Airplane Single and Multi Engine Land
Instrument Airplane

I would just like to point out one thing here though this doesn't seem to very accurate source as I hold an FAA MEL(multi-engine land) IR(instrument rated) and this site says that I don't hold a license.

[Edited 2007-08-31 18:25:46]

User currently offlineBlueSkys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12048 times:

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 11):
He does not have 275 million dollars

You really dont think so? The man is still receiving royalties for grease at a rate of over 1 million per year and more than that for most of his other movies. He also has Millions upon millions invested around the world.

If a smart actor can make 30 million (Travolta has made WAY more) he can easily double that by investing wisely...

I dont think Travolta would have a problem pulling out 275 million dollars. Or let me rephrase that, if he wanted to i am sure he could find a way  Smile


User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11572 times:

Quoting Baron52ta (Reply 18):
Date of Medical : Sep, 2005
Class of Medical : 1
Expiration of Class 1 : Mar, 2006

I think this is a bit out of date. Nevertheless, it does state that he has a multi rating; the only thing it doesn't say is what type ratings he holds. As to not having a Commercial or ATP rating, he doesn't need them. Some people like to collect ratings like trophies, others don't bother. It doesn't have anything to do with his abilities as a pilot.



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
User currently offlineDesh From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10737 times:

Hey go easy on the guy - he is a good actor sometimes - liked him in "a civil action" .... Power to him if he has flown the A380 ... still a much better role model than say Lohan or Vick .... So he is a little crazy about airplanes .. wouldnt you boast if you got a chance to be in the A380 cockpit - flight deck for the more PC. ??? I know I would


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User currently offlineNcelhr From Vatican City, joined Jul 2006, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10279 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 13):
I find it hard to believe that no line pilots from the customers have flown the 380 yet. So I'm going to call bulls*** on this one.

I am only recalling this from memory, but I thought he had flown it during the A380's first visit to Australia, where his N707JT met the A380.

If he's speaking about flying it at Le Bourget show, he's talking bull*** since Singapore Airline Crew had been training for a long time in Toulouse, EK crews had flown it & Qantas crews had already "played" with it in Australia.

That said, he is correct in saying it's quite easy to fly. For anybody that has flown on 707s, DC8s etc., flying a modern fly-by-wire A/C is a breeze. Start doing something stupid and the computers will stop you. Leave the joystick alone and the aircraft will just continue on its course. Come to think of it, it's really the computer flying the a/c with the pilot giving it input - one input among a lot of others.


User currently offlineRIHNOSAUR From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 362 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9865 times:

Quoting BlueSkys (Reply 19):
You really dont think so? The man is still receiving royalties for grease at a rate of over 1 million per year and more than that for most of his other movies. He also has Millions upon millions invested around the world.

If a smart actor can make 30 million (Travolta has made WAY more) he can easily double that by investing wisely...

I dont think Travolta would have a problem pulling out 275 million dollars. Or let me rephrase that, if he wanted to i am sure he could find a way Smile

That being said, JFK787NYC has brought up a interesting point. I think his point is interesting because I have daydreamed myself with the notion of "what would it take to own an A380 or heck a 777 200 lr to haul my friends around....(that would be cool)

and in several discussions with friends alike ...not only would you need the 275 M to pay for the darn thing but the fuel costs and maintenance costs for up keeping a plane of that caliber are in the millions per year easily....if you are not an airline operating at bulk ..maintaining and up keeping that bad boy requires some serious cash...
heck just the hangar to keep it in....wold cost several thousands per month...+ having the infrastructure to maintaining it (maybe building a mini terminal for it) would be of order millions...

I heard, though by NO MEANS confirmed that usually when you own a jet liner..you should be prepared to have 70% of that same plane in parts ready to replace in order to be able to give it proper maintenance...over the life of the plane...who knows maybe that is just a dumb rumor I heard

personally I find it hard to believe he could truly afford to own his own A380...but you never know.....


which makes you think of those who HAVE ordered it...they must be wasted in money...(but that is another story)

cheers...



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User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6910 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9801 times:

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 23):
I heard, though by NO MEANS confirmed that usually when you own a jet liner..you should be prepared to have 70% of that same plane in parts ready to replace in order to be able to give it proper maintenance...over the life of the plane...who knows maybe that is just a dumb rumor I heard

But that is for an airline operation where downtime can be disastrous to the operation. If JT did have an A380 and it was down for any reason I believe he could get by. Now which of his other planes would he jump in? Plus his utilization will also much lower, so wear and tear is going to be negligible in comparison. But your overall point that the purchase price is only the beginning is very true.



The problem with making things foolproof is that fools are so doggone ingenious...Dan Keebler
25 777STL : You've obviously never seen his house in the LA hills.... He may not have the disposal income to buy a 380, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had 275
26 Starlionblue : Well, as I like to say, a determined pilot can crash any aircraft no matter how "safe". You can do plenty of stupid things in a FBW Airbus. Still, th
27 Ikramerica : hollywood stars are not as rich as they seem, and he's no exception. only TV stars who were involved in producing their own shows are truly among the
28 Post contains images 9VSIO : Did we not agree in the thread in tech-ops that it was not "just a stick", but a "sidestick"
29 Post contains links 9VSIO : Also, travolta's ratings can be found here.... Who Is John Travolta's Flight Crew? (by Boeingluvr Aug 31 2007 in Civil Aviation)
30 Post contains images Starlionblue : Hehe. Well, only in some cases, admittedly including this one.
31 Post contains images LimaNiner : 2x $30m
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