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Air Comet Emergency Landing At SJO (8-30-07)  
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4766 times:

http://www.teletica.com/archivo/tn7/nac/2007/08/30/23529.htm (Spanish only)

An A7 aircraft (no idea if it was an A330 or A340) that took off at 01:00 LT had to make an emergency landing 90 minutes after taking off from SJO, as the Pilot declared an emergency due to the aircraft being overweight. The plane landed safely, joined by firefighters in the area, and later took off again before 06:00 LT this morning. Other reports (for which I cannot find a link that can corroborate the information) said the emergency landing happened because of an engine problem.

Anyone have more information on the matter and which aircraft was affected? And if it is true that the emergency landing happened because of an overweight aircraft, how could this have happened?

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User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

I would find it quite odd that the flight crew found the plane to be overweight when they were already underway.

I would, rather, be more tempted to believe that it was an engine problem that caused the emergency landing as it was reported elsewhere.

What might have happened is that the crew decided not to dump fuel, but to land as soon as possible, making an overweight landing.

Any more insight would be appreciated.


User currently offlineStar12 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

As Summa767 says above, if the flight was already underway then being overweight would not be a factor. It would be a factor in landing again though so I doubt very much that this was the cause. Most likely a technical. I wonder whether this was an ex Air Madrid aircraft. I seem to remember that they made more than one emergency landing in Latin America due to engine problems. Maybe the same troublesome old bird??

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4625 times:

Quoting Star12 (Reply 2):
Most likely a technical. I wonder whether this was an ex Air Madrid aircraft. I seem to remember that they made more than one emergency landing in Latin America due to engine problems. Maybe the same troublesome old bird??

Now that you mention it, A7 has in fact 3 aircraft that used to fly for NM, 2 A332s (EC-KIL and EC-KIM, former EC-IYB and EC-IYN respectively) and 1 A340 (EC-KHU, former EC-JIS). To be honest, I'm also leaning towards a mechanical problem myself, otherwise, wouldn't the displays in the cockpit make an alert to the pilots if the aircraft was overweight?


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Thread starter):
An A7 aircraft (no idea if it was an A330 or A340) that took off at 01:00 LT

A340



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User currently offline76er From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

If the plane departed again within 5 hours of its first attempt, the problem could not have been very serious. Sounds like a software glitch, or maybe 'just' a sick passenger. Considering the time of departure, I'd be more concerned about the crew's legal working limits.

An overweight landing shouldn't have to be a reason to declare an emergency, although it is not standard procedure.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31692 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 1):
would find it quite odd that the flight crew found the plane to be overweight when they were already underway.

On realising the Emergency.The Landing would have been overweight at the time.Hence the Declaration.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4196 times:

Information about incident at SJO.
Apologies, available in Spanish: http://www.aldia.co.cr/ad_ee/2007/agosto/31/nacionales1222965.html



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
On realising the Emergency.The Landing would have been overweight at the time.Hence the Declaration.

Or could it be, since they returned after only 90 minutes, that they were landing at maximum landing weight, hence declared an emergency just in case?

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
Information about incident at SJO.
Apologies, available in Spanish: http://www.aldia.co.cr/ad_ee/2007/ag....html

Let me quote a part:

Alajuela. - Ayer un avión con 245 pasajeros de la aerolínea Air Comet, tuvo que aterrizar de emergencia en el aeropuerto Juan Santamaría, luego de que el piloto comunicara problemas en los reversibles, sistema que tiene la aeronave para poder frenar.

It basically say sthat the aircraft turned back to SJO after the pilot reported problems with the reversibles (I presume they meant the thrust reversers or the speedbrakes).


User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

Acording to the Acars messages, it was the A340-300 with the registration EC-KCF (former Virgin Atlantic/Virgin Nigeria with registration G-VBUS).

Apparently there were no further problems. Yesterday it flew to Bogota and back to Madrid, and currently it is on its way again to Bogota.

San Jose de Costa Rica usually will see the A332, which were the former Air Madrid's planes, or the new A332 with registration EC-KDF,which has been doing some flights for Eurofly.


User currently offlineTomascubero From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2005, 525 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 9):
San Jose de Costa Rica usually will see the A332, which were the former Air Madrid's planes, or the new A332 with registration EC-KDF,which has been doing some flights for Eurofly.

Quite indeed, the A343 is quite rare now, for the last two weeks I think it came in once, I have seen EC-KDF with Eurofly colors, Air Comet titles along with small Aerosur titles on the left side, since Aerosur is using A7 for their VVI-MAD flights.

Regards,
Tomas.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

Quoting IberiaA319 (Reply 9):
San Jose de Costa Rica usually will see the A332.

Right. The A340 had been utilized on Wednesdays besides the A332 on Saturdays and Mondays.
In fact, August 29th was the last scheduled A340 for summer season to SJO. Service on Wednesdays will be downgraded to A332.
I am just curious about the time of the incident delayed almost four hours related to normal departing time.
Second time reading a notable delay in SJO-MAD with A7.



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