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The DC9s Never Die.  
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7899 times:

Was talking to my dad before and seems Aserca Airlines is buying 21 Dirty thirties from NW. 12 of which where with EAL before that. They are supposed to be "completely overhauled" so they are in "like new" condition. LOL. I have to say this aircraft is beyond a workhorse. They never die!

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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7843 times:

It's pretty impressive to think how long these birds have been making their operators money with virtually no serious catastrophies. And they're still truckin. I work right next to BNA (about an 1/8 of a mile) and always run outside when I hear those screaming JT8's of NW's DC9's taking off. Every now and again we get some F-15's and F-18's taking off and the sound of those JT8's are about as loud. Awesome if you're an enthusiast.


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User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7801 times:

And they spew about the same amount of black smoke.  Wink


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User currently offlineRavel From Finland, joined Feb 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 2):
And they spew about the same amount of black smoke.  

Maybe, but "stealth fighters are for wimps", true airliners got more balls!


User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7643 times:
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Wrong thread


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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7586 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 2):
And they spew about the same amount of black smoke. Wink

so do the 727s MD80s DC8s.....who cares?! thats the best part! (sorta...)

Quoting M404 (Reply 4):
Wrong thread

i dont understand, but okay..



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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7573 times:

You gotta hand it to those MDD engineers and assembly workers. They built these planes to last.

More importantly, why is NW giving these birds up?



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User currently offline747fan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

I just love the sound of JT8D's on takeoff, with their signature fan whine and thunderous exhaust noise that can set off car at SDF in the UPS parking lot (right at the end of RWY 17L). Then its easy to follow a DC-9 once it passes with its trademark exhaust trail (MD80's have the same traits, although they seem slightly quieter). I've never flown on a "classic" DC-9, but I have flown on a DL MD80 in row 27 (although there were 38 rows, so its not that loud of a seat). The sound of those 2 JT8D's spooling up and then that trademark whine at takeoff power send chills up my spine! And the climbout was fairly steep - definitely my best takeoff experience, even beat my 777 takeoff experience!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK9JPiqzAR0&mode=related&search=
Takeoff in a NW DC-9 from MEM.
www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Boei...e_AeroGal_Aviation_Video-9214.html
Turn the volume way up for the best effect of this one. I know its not a DC-9 but its obviously got the same engines (JT8D's), so what I said in this post applies to 727's (and 732's if you're in the front) as well.You can hear the car alarms in the background! Big grin
And of course the exhaust trail...
Unfortunately (at least for a.netters) DC-9's aren't as noisy as they were 10 years ago due to hushkits - believe it or not, they all meet Stage 3 regulations and actually aren't really any louder than a 744 in terms of decibels. But I keenly remember them (as well as 727's & 732's) in their pre-hushkit days - you could actually hear the exhast crackle like on an afterburning military jet (air distortion)! MD80's were actually some of the quietest commercial jets (along w/ the 733, DC8-70, and 757/767) when they entered service! And don't get me started on those very quiet RJ's!  Angry


User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7469 times:

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 7):
More importantly, why is NW giving these birds up?

NWA management is getting tired of all the "when will NWA retire their DC-9s" threads on A.net.


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User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 2):
And they spew about the same amount of black smoke. Wink

Where is the romance without a window rattling roar and black smoke trails.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 7):

More importantly, why is NW giving these birds up?



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 9):

NWA management is getting tired of all the "when will NWA retire their DC-9s" threads on A.net.

hahahah! I was just going to say that!



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User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7333 times:

the jt8d and cf6 are absolutely the best engines to listen to when an airliner is spooling-up for takeoff!!

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 7):
More importantly, why is NW giving these birds up?

Well actually now that I read the article my dad gave me it seems these DC9s are in storage in Roswell, NM.


User currently offlineTXKF2010 From Bermuda, joined Nov 2005, 208 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7163 times:

MD was the best as buildin airframes hands down...i'm sure DC-8s 9s 10s n 11s will be around til 2035 lol


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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

About one month ago, the aircraft at the gate next to the arrival gate used by the NW A320 on which I was a pax was NW DC-9-31 N9334. Looked it up in a production list and discovered that N9334 was built and delivered to Air West in 1968. Some thirty-nine years and four owners (Air West, Hughes Airwest, Republic and Northwest) later, it continues to serve.

User currently offlineJRDC930 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6901 times:

Love that plane, gotta admit even though it may not be fuel efficient, it is reliable and built to last,i may not get a chance to fly on one on NW, but hopefully i can fly on a DC9-30 from JR next summer, when im in Mexico. They'll be at JR forever...lol.

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6873 times:

Hi!

Last time I saw a "classic" DC-9 was in July 2006 at EWR...I was inside a CO 737-700 with a technical problem so I was passing my time seeing airplanes passing by for take-off...that's when I saw NW DC-9-31 N8932E...nice looking plane indeed. I had the chance to fly twice this wonderfull airplane, first time and at the same time my first flight was on the 23rd. November 1978 from LIS to GVA, a Swissair DC-9-51, probably the nosiest DC-9 I've ever seen!!! The registration was HB-ISR. Latter on the 1st. October 1980 I flew again in a DC-9, this time the "sporty" DC-9-15, from KL, PH-DNC, from AMS to MAD, a memorable flight, specially because it was in a 15 series...almost a regional jet!!!


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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6830 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 17):
specially because it was in a 15 series...almost a regional jet!!

I think the new chinese regional jet ARJ 21 looks pretty much like a 15 series from the pictures I have seen so far



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6346 times:

Hi!

Columba, you're absolutely right!!! If we take "those winglets" this chinese airliners really looks like a DC-9-15!!! Let me share how did I get the chance to fly this unique DC-9-15 airplane...In 1980 I did my first "spotting trip" with a friend of mine to AMS and UK... for a portuguese spotter to be in those airports was something like "heaven"...LIS was a nice airport but with very "boring" moments, so we decided to be "in the top of the wave" concerning aviation enthusiasm and spotting! We had such a great time seeing planes in both places...specially in AMS, I remember that in 1980 already there was two sheets of papers available to spotters to see the arrival and departure traffic. On the way back we noticed that KL was dedicating one of their DC-9-15's to MAD everyday...so we tried to change our AMS/LIS flight to AMS/MAD/LIS flight. In the KL counter the lady there said that wouldn't be any problem, so we changed that with a big hope that next day KL flight will keep be operated with the DC-9-15. Next morning we arrived quite early to AMS and after our check-in we went to our gate to find out that we were flying the DC-9-15...big excitement and a very bright movement we did!!! I still remember that our DC-9 got some "downstairs" fellow going to MAD too, it was an LH A300 that landed just a few moments after us in Barajas.
Anyway my ride in that DC-9-15 was something like memorable!
Regards


User currently offlineRbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5556 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 9):
Where is the romance without a window rattling roar and black smoke trails.

Don't forget the smell of burned kerosene in the air......


User currently offlinePanAm1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5516 times:

Everyone always talks about the sexy jets as being "the most important." However, tin pound for tin pound, these planes may be among the most important. Short/medium haul became a very profitable staple in the industry with the introduction of these tough and well designed jets.

User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5456 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Thread starter):
Was talking to my dad before and seems Aserca Airlines is buying 21 Dirty thirties from NW. 12 of which where with EAL before that. They are supposed to be "completely overhauled" so they are in "like new" condition. LOL. I have to say this aircraft is beyond a workhorse. They never die!

Air Ivoire from Abidjan has added a pair of McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32's with ZS temporary registrations to substitute its very old Fokker F28's

I don't know the serial numbers of DC9's but my bet is that these are oldest than DC equipment...

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5092 times:

Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 9):
Quoting Baron95 (Reply 2):
And they spew about the same amount of black smoke. Wink

Where is the romance without a window rattling roar and black smoke trails.

I confess. I had a deprived childhood. I've never flown on a JT8D powered 707 or DC9. First flight believe it or not was on Pan Am 747. I believe 2nd, 3rd, 4th, Were also. From there, a bunch of 767/77 flights with the occasional MD80 (DC-9s big sister), 738, A320/A319. Come to think of it a pretty narrow experience. Oddest plane I've flown (as passenger) was an Electra on CGH-SDU shuttle.  Sad



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User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3734 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

I haven't flown on a DC-9 in years (not even on NW), so I can't say that I'll miss that burning kerosene smell and window shaking on takeoff.

Still, contrary to what most a.netters think, a modern CRJ or EMBRAER of any kind beats a DC-9 anyday.



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User currently offlineShannoninAMA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 26):
Still, contrary to what most a.netters think, a modern CRJ or EMBRAER of any kind beats a DC-9 anyday.

Quick! Someone get him some oxygen! It doesnt look like hes left his house in 30 years! Big grin

Honestly, i enjoy both ERJ/CRJs and DC9s....the DC9s just have a classier feel to them  Smile


User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3952 times:
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I work at ORD and am constantly amazed that DC-9's that EA used on the Air Shuttle - aircraft that I flew on when I went to college, flying between BOS/EWR/LGA are still used....I'm 56! - do the math!

25 Post contains images CV990 : Hi! I could easely swap my DC-9-51 ride for the Electra one that Baron95 did !!! Returning to the DC-9, what I really liked about that plane was the f
26 Milesrich : To my knowledge, only one JT-8D powered 707 was ever built, as a repower experiment, and it was never operated by any airline, so I don't think anyone
27 S5FA170 : I flew several times on DC-9s operated by USAir (they were not yet USAirways) and always enjoyed my experiences on them. I, too, am amazed looking out
28 Post contains images OV735 : In 30 years, when the CRJs and EMBs are all rusty and everyone's speculating "when are they going to be retired and replaced by the new ultramodern h
29 Travatl : After 12 years as a flight attendant for AirTran, I can assure you, they do indeed. BTW, is the airline financially responsible for the numerous sets
30 M404 : Just for the heck of it check out my photos (all A.net) in my bio. It will match a lot of folks employed by the "Local Service" carriers of the mid-si
31 Post contains images CV990 : Hi! Just to clear out a bit, and regarding the 20 series, that was a special version ordered by SK, it used the wings and engines from the 30 version
32 Travatl : J7 had 4 of the -20s that were acquired from SK (N950-N953). They took off like bats outta Hell, but we did have a coupla complaints - first, the over
33 DeltAirlines : Disagree 100%. Not only is there plenty of First Class on NW DC-9s (my only real experience with them), but the full-sized overhead bins so I don't n
34 CV990 : Hi! I think the new generation of regional jets are quite amazing, I think the DC-9 was a fabulous airliner...maybe not so cost saving, mainly because
35 Bok269 : That is your opinion, and you are welcome to it. Sure, the ERJ and the CRJ have modern avionics, interior fittings, etc. However, when you consider h
36 Post contains links and images COERJ145 : The NWA ones are. They had their DC-9s fitted with 717 style interiors back in the late 90s(can someone confirm this date?). The original interiors h
37 Bok269 : Awesome. THanks. What a big improvement.
38 Centrair : My first flight that I remember (very different from my very first flight) was on a DC-9-10 operated by Republic on their old route GRB-CWA-EAU-MSP. A
39 CV990 : Hi! Just regarding again the 20 series, during late 1981 early 1982 TAT leased from SK two DC-9-21's, OY-KGD and OY-KGE These airplanes gave such a gr
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