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A380 Hits Airport Hangar In Bangkok  
User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2224 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 32477 times:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22344742-1702,00.html

THE Airbus A380 has hit an airport hangar in Bangkok, forcing the world's largest passenger jet to delay its take-off today on a demonstration tour.

The bump caused slight damage to the left wing of the double-decker plane, an Airbus official said


ANYBODY KNOW MORE?


Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
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User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 32443 times:

I guess the damage wasn't too bad. Next time they should watch where they are going, and plan better to use taxiways that provide adequate clearance, or follow the centerline.

User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 32269 times:

Is it the first A380 incident in the world?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32215 times:

Awwww, her first incident.

No doubt a parents proudest day when they hear their baby's pilot say, "DO'OH!!!"



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User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32197 times:

Oh that sucks, but i guess its good that it happened while still in custody of Airbus, i guess this is a great opportunity for Airbus to prove how easy it is to fix the big girl.

I suppose all of us can just figure that this is just a part of the testing phase  Smile Inevitable.

regards
nitin



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 31911 times:

Wow! This is amazing...
Not really good publicity, is it?

I wonder who was the cockpit crew on board and mostly who was the chief pilot?
Fernando Alonso was just named to replace Mr Lelaie some days back.

Also I wonder if this will have any influence on future BigBus sales.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offline57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 31845 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
Also I wonder if this will have any influence on future BigBus sales.

After all the noise about having to reconfigure gates to accomodate the beast, it's kind of ironic. Having A380 compatible gates makes no difference if the plane can't easily get from the runway to the ramp!

Kind of reminds me of the story about the birthday cake that the stewards decided to bake onboard for President Harry Truman. They wanted to present it to him in the main cabin but in the haste of organizing, neglected to determine that the serving sheet would fit through the doorway leading to the main cabin. The result of this was that after much effort went in to baking and decorating the cake, they discovered that it would not fit through the door and they ended up having to have the President come up to the galley to cut the cake.



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User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5028 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 31779 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
Also I wonder if this will have any influence on future BigBus sales.

Just to get any misunderstanding out of the way: that WAS sarcasm, right?


User currently offlineMaersk737 From Denmark, joined Feb 2004, 702 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 31767 times:

Quoting 57AZ (Reply 6):
Kind of reminds me of the story about the birthday cake that the stewards decided to bake onboard for President Harry Truman. They wanted to present it to him in the main cabin but in the haste of organizing, neglected to determine that the serving sheet would fit through the doorway leading to the main cabin. The result of this was that after much effort went in to baking and decorating the cake, they discovered that it would not fit through the door and they ended up having to have the President come up to the galley to cut the cake.

Do you really believe that yourself?  Wink

Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12498 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 31669 times:
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Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
Next time they should watch where they are going, and plan better to use taxiways that provide adequate clearance, or follow the centerline.

Maybe next time you should wait till there's more information available before drawing wild conclusions. sarcastic 



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 31494 times:

Ouch, its first scratch! Hopefully, this will be the first scratch in a long career. Planes get dinged all the time, maybe not as often as cars, nothing to worry about I should hope!


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User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 31415 times:

Amazing how a simple topic can once again cause so much furor and cross arguments amongst and between a.net members, and as i post this its a reletavely new topic at that.

Why cant we all be a happy family and simply be aircraft and air travel enthusiasts.



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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9029 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 31362 times:

from http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30047377

"Airbus collides with a bus at Suvannabhumi airport


An Airbus aircraft backward collision with gate of a hangar at Suvannabhumir airport on Saturday."

Did it hit an hanger, a bus, during taxi, during push back ?



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User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 31322 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
Wow! This is amazing...
Not really good publicity, is it?

It doesnt say in the article in anyway that the A380 aircraft was at fault. Only the pilots or ground crew were


User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 31099 times:

any photos available ??
i think our fellows in BKK should help in this


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 31062 times:

Guys, it's just part of the testing program.  Big grin

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9029 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 31051 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 14):
any photos available ??



Lots of damage  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2699 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30921 times:

Thank you Zeke, they don't have a picture from the other side of the winglet?

User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30892 times:
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Copyright AFP / Der Spiegel.

This one looks slightly more dramatic ...

Mario
LH526



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30870 times:

From the Bangkok Post:

http://www.bangkokpost.net/topstories/topstories.php?id=121282


Superjumbo damaged in Bangkok mishap
BangkokPost.com, DPA

A tip of an Airbus A380's wing scraped a repair building at the Suvarnabhumi airport while preparing for a test flight to Chiang Mai on Saturday morning.

European plane maker Airbus let Thai Airways International (THAI) uses the world's largest passenger plane in a trial flight from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.

The plane, which arrived in Thailand on Friday as part of an Asian tour to promote its sales, carried 150 VIP guests, businessmen and reporters on this special flight. It was scheduled to leave the airport at 9.45am.

Its tip hit the building when it was backing out of the parking area to the taxiway, officials said. There were no injuries.

THAI president Apinan Sumanaseni said minor damage occurred to the jet's winglet, and expected that it would take an hour to fix the damage. The flight would be resumed on Saturday afternoon.

The pushback vehicle operator was not blamed for the damage as Mr Apinan said the accident occurred because the jet is so large that it needs more space on the taxiway.

Airbus officials were sanguine.

"This sort of thing happens every day, in every airport around the world," said Edouard Ullmo, Airbus' executive vice president of sales for Asia Pacific.

Airbus decided to remove both winglets, designed to stabilise the aircraft in heavy turbulence, before resuming the flight to Chiang Mai Saturday afternoon.

"We can fly with one winglet or no winglets," said Ullmo. "This is standard procedure."

THAI ordered six A380 megajets, which will be delivered in the next two years.

....



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30870 times:

Thank you Zeke
it seems it is major injury !!


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30822 times:

Quoting LH526 (Reply 18):

This one looks slightly more dramatic ...

Yes, but that's because the wing-fences have been purposely removed before the plane departed. Wing-fences can relatively easily be removed and they do not affect the aircraft performance, except for efficiency.
I reckon Airbus is getting the damaged parts fixed in BKK and then installed on the plane again, or it is bringing new parts from TLS if they cannot be repaired locally.


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 30810 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 19):

Airbus decided to remove both winglets, designed to stabilise the aircraft in heavy turbulence, before resuming the flight to Chiang Mai Saturday afternoon.

This says a whole lot about the knowledge of the media about aviation.


User currently offlineBringiton From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 30755 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 5):
I wonder if this will have any influence on future BigBus sales.

Yes many Airline CEO's are now rushing into boardrooms to discuss wether to cancel their orders completely and switch over to the 748 camp . This also pretty much does it for any chances Airbus had of selling the 380 to BA .  Wink


User currently offlineJasonhawke From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 30699 times:

Video available here in French : http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/economie/0,,...age-bangkok-pour-airbus-a380-.html

Note how big is the winglet, amazing !!

[Edited 2007-09-01 13:37:08]

25 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Not me... the BKK Post!
26 Post contains images N14AZ : Exactly, and I just heard that SQ - after visiting the site - is now insisting on the installation of airbags for each seat or - as an alternative -
27 LH526 : Right .. that's why I wrote slightly ... not that big a deal in total.
28 Rbgso : That doesn't seem too serious. You would think Thai would be a bit more careful, though. Glad she was back in the air quickly.
29 Jbguller : Anyone got any pics of her flying without winglets?
30 Post contains images Seabosdca : But he'll forever be known on the ramp as "that guy who scraped the A380..." It'll be a good story to tell.
31 Swissy : ???????? Wow there is an statement, yep lets blame the size. Thanks Zeke for the photo and remember all pilots, if a ground crew puts your "big" airc
32 DL767captain : well bumping into a hangar isn't exactly what you want when you are doing a "demonstration" tour to prove that the plane works with airports, the pict
33 Scorpio : Look at reply 16: it was taken off for repair after the bump.
34 TKV : Of course, no conclusion can be drawn before more is known. But trying in advance to bagatellize is surly not the right way to handle it and can back
35 Sh0rtybr0wn : Of course the worlds biggest plane will have the most trouble bumping into things at airports. The new 748 will have the same type of problems for a w
36 Aither : Now that's an excuse ! So typical... It's like trying to put a car in a fridge : I'm not stupid, this is the car too big ![Edited 2007-09-01 16:25:46
37 Post contains images Scorpio : Oh come on He just stated the facts: this kind of thing does happen all around the world on a very regular basis, and flying with one or no winglets
38 PanAm1971 : A pretty silly error. But... it's not a big deal. It'll give Airbus a chance to actually fix the big bird in a "real world" scenerio. I wonder what ha
39 Post contains images Aither : It would have been the -one piece design- wing of the 787, as shown on some advertisings it would have been dramatic !
40 Scottieprecord : I think this looked worse for THAI than Airbus. It might even look good for the A380s operational capabilities - it's able to take a little hard-handl
41 XJRamper : If this sort of thing happened every day at every airport around the world, there would be a lot of drug tests and fired people. The pushback driver
42 LH526 : Right, and that's why Jeppesen has plenty of charts including taxiway wing clearance width and other viable information to bring your plane safe from
43 Post contains images DEVILFISH : It's the hangar's fault - if it wasn't there, it wouldn't be hit.
44 PanAm1971 : Damn hangars! They are always in the stinking way!
45 Post contains images AMSSFO : and in case you would think it only happens with Boeings:
46 PanAm1971 : These are among the dumbest accidents. It must drive airlines and insurance companys literally crazy. As a side note, my mother was on a PIA flight fr
47 XJRamper : It wasn't the push back driver's fault, it wasn't the wing walker's fault, it was the asphalt!] XJR
48 AS739X : She is no longer a Virgin!!! Will this be the same a/c coming to the US in October? ASSFO
49 DL767captain : Stupid stubborn hangar!! It's just like walking around at Disney Lane, no one will get out of your way!!
50 Blackbird1331 : Things that go bump in the night. God, what an ugly baby this will be.
51 Post contains images EGNR : Maybe the accident occurred because they were trying to manouever the A380 around some of the potholes in the tarmac at Bangkok's new airport?
52 Baron95 : That is the issue right there. Airport compatibility. There is absolutely no question that planes with very long wingspans (e.g. A380) make it more d
53 TKV : This thread is getting really childish, not to use another word !! On its face, this has a certain similarity as the Boeing bashing because of the dif
54 Post contains images SandroZRH : Just the usual sour suspects from overseas, nothing to waste our energy with
55 Post contains images Scbriml : It seems some people are compelled to make a mountain out of a molehill when it comes to Airbus. It is certainly not uncommon for planes to ding wing
56 Moo : The A380 has thousands of hours of flight time, and has visited dozens of airports in the two and a half years its been flying - I'm actually surprise
57 Post contains images Gr8Circle : I propose a medal of honor for this statement....
58 Zvezda : There is virtually zero chance that this incident would be either a reason or an excuse for canceling a WhaleJet order. This is rubbish. Why was ther
59 UK_Dispatcher : I agree - it was quite possibly the stupidest question I have ever seen in these forums. Maybe MadameConcorde works in the media...[Edited 2007-09-01
60 TKV : MadameConcorde question is perfectly valid, independently of which the answer is, as it is asking within another thread if a few weeks delay of the f
61 Breiz : Some posts refer to Bangkok or BKK. If we believe the above statement, the incident happened at Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi (NBK) and the A380 was supposed
62 UK_Dispatcher : BKK is the code now used for Suvarnabhumi Airport. Don Muang Airport code was changed to DMK.
63 BillReid : Airbus says this sort of thing happens everyday all around the world. A blatant lie from Airbus if the quote is true. Yess all airlines drive their ai
64 Mham001 : This is not really a surprising attitude coming from Thais. This is the society that automatically assigns fault in a car accident to the foreigner.
65 Moo : Oh come on, haven't you ever exaggerated, haven't you ever used the excuse 'but it happens all the time'? Kind of over reacting aren't you? Its a say
66 Post contains images Scorpio : LOL. Right   You know perfectly well that no-one will cancel an order because of this. What I find incredible is how certain people are now using an
67 Af773atmsp : Didn't Airbus name this aircraft the A380 because the # 8 is good luck in Asia (I think I read something about this) instead of naming it the A360 or
68 Mham001 : You are correct, it was only a little wingtip. The Thai response was amusing, if the area was too small for the plane, why was the plane allowed in t
69 Moo : Really, skipped over a lot of the replies in this thread then eh?
70 Post contains images Scbriml : You think? How about these gems: It was being pushed back. It was being pushed back. Read the thread - Airbus took the wing-fence off. No more than m
71 Post contains images SandroZRH : Seriousely, some of you are getting so pathetic that this threads needs a lock.
72 Mham001 : None of those statements bash Airbus or the A380 with the exception of Bill Rieds and he makes a good point about a blatant exaggeration. jeeze, settl
73 AirNZ : What on earth are you actually talking about? Would this "some would say" nonsense actually be yourself? For goodness sake, it merely scratched a win
74 Post contains images Scbriml : I didn't say they did. Your criteria was "silly" statements.
75 AirTranTUS : Then maybe the tug driver will be more careful next time.
76 BillReid : Yes very normal. All of us in the industry push airfcraft into buildings and walls. Yes LYING to the press is quite normal. Too bad I work in public
77 Moo : Yup, obviously you don't understand the term 'exaggeration'. Lie? Blatant lie? Grow up. Anyone with even a small iota of common sense sees absolutely
78 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Well, its not like we cant go through this thread and find our own share of dumb European statements as well. How about we forget all of this and jus
79 L-188 : Is the hanger ok???
80 SandroZRH : STOP talking, You're making a complete fool out of yourself. Advise: Just sell your keyboard.
81 Post contains links Breiz : BillReid, if you do not believe Airbus, you should consider researching the subject and have a serious look at the incidents happening all year aroun
82 Moo : I think it went home to recuperate after being patched up, but the Hanger Union is going to have something to say about health and safety at work.
83 Post contains links Aither : Actually there are ground handling incidents eveyday The only one losing credibility here is you ! For agust 2007 : http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.a
84 Scorpio : Oh ... My ... God. Seriously.
85 Post contains images SeaTac : Here's some pics of an A380 "Without" winglets visiting Chiang Mai. Credits to Moddang.
86 Post contains images WingedMigrator : It's called dispatch reliability
87 Ncelhr : " target=_blank>http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.asp...=2007 Thanks for these FACTS as opposed to a lot of others who just speculate. I have another l
88 Corey07850 : Also a good chance to collect some flight data on how the plane acts without the wingtip fences, as well as differences in fuel burn
89 Baron95 : Who is making a mountain out of it? I said it is no big deal, but it can't be ignored either. Airbus opens the door when they try to acknowledge a si
90 PITops : That's what I was thinking!!!
91 Zvezda : I don't think it was a deliberate lie. I think he was just careless with the truth. Yes, that is one of the few jobs where such a misstatement is unf
92 PanAm1971 : You guys should congratulate yourselves. Never in the history of ANet has a thread become so overblown over a minor incident. The childishness display
93 Post contains links WingedMigrator : That was already done before. (sorry, no a.net photo available...) http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=664196
94 EI321 : Did they say it happened every day, or every day at every airport?
95 Kuna : Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking this...:D I sorta like the look of it better without the winglets. I know the fuel mileage is lost without
96 Breiz : Thanks a lot SeaTac! About the A380 flying w/o winglets, Airbus recently fly-tested both F-WWDD and F-WWEA w/o winglets.
97 Gunsontheroof : In other news, I'm getting really sick of that house livery. Good to see this was no big thing.
98 TKV : This is exactly the issue. The incident is of secondary importance, at least if there are not more facts as it seems, which do not means it must not
99 Charles79 : IMO, this was a very small incident that was bound to happen with a brand new airplane at some point. Didn't 2 737s get pushed into each other just th
100 Jetfuel : Thanks to all the "replies" to my topic. It would have been nice to establish the circumstaces leading up to the event. I would have thought extra car
101 BillReid : It should be clear to you that a statement that this happens everyday isn't true. So why do you condone this?
102 BillReid : " target=_blank>http://www.airlines.org/products/pub...ct=26 See quote below. Lets see, 1,000 airports worldwide. 365 X 1000 oh yes 365,000 pushbacks
103 SandroZRH : Are you really THAT thick? What he was pointing out was that incidents such as this one happen all the time at airports all over the world and not al
104 Hiflyer : This just in....Thai has changed their order for the A380 to be delivered without winglets..... grin
105 Scorpio : My God man, you have to be incredibly thick or just desperately looking for an argument to make such a big deal out of this. It's so bad I'm starting
106 Moo : This incident is of minor importance, and whatever the Airbus spokesman said is of zero importance to 99.9% of us. The phrase used is only of importa
107 Srbmod : This thread has gotten way out of hand as the result of a few members deciding to be downright childish and by some trying to turn what was essentiall
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