From article: "Shanghai Airlines is scheduled to fly from Pudong to Los Angeles via Anchorage beginning in September and to Dallas/Fort Worth via ANC from next April. Jade intends to operate a Shenzhen-PVG-Portland, Ore.-DFW-Portland-PVG routing and a Shenzhen-ANC-Chicago O'Hare flight beginning this month."
Also mentioned are Great Wall to LAX and ORD and Hainan to Seattle. Asian trade is booming, and we here at DFW are already seeing EVA, Cathay Pacific, Korean, China Airlines, Air China, China Cargo, and Singapore on a regular basis at the west cargo ramp. Jade 744s and Shanghai MD-11s would be a welcome addition. If these plans go through, where would the new guys load/unload? Do they have agreements with current lessors on warehouse/ramp space, or are there enough square feet available for everyone? Any other comments/observations welcome.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5338 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2157 times:
Yes, and Swissport got the JADE contract in Anchorage!!!
Woohoo!
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10189 posts, RR: 62 Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2140 times:
Man, and they great news just keeps on coming for DFW's cargo business. Wow! Congratulations to all. These flights will no doubt be a huge success, as has been just about all the rest of AA's cargo fling lately.
ZuluLima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1991 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1): Yes, and Swissport got the JADE contract in Anchorage!!!
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2086 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1948 times:
Quoting ZuluLima (Thread starter): Jade intends to operate a Shenzhen-PVG-Portland, Ore.-DFW-Portland-PVG
This was originally supposed to be via YVR not PDX - and Im not sure about the PVG stop either, I think it was SZN - YVR - DFW, but we have heard nothing more about Jade coming here. I guess this is why.
Notdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 915 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
I am surprised that with all the interest from the different Asian carriers into DFW the Japanese are nowhere to be seen or heard from. JL does good business from ATL so why not them or NCA to DFW?
YVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1834 times:
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 4): This was originally supposed to be via yvr not PDX - and Im not sure about the PVG stop either, I think it was SZN - yvr - DFW, but we have heard nothing more about Jade coming here. I guess this is why.
Jade's website had an article stating the routing was to be SZN-YVR-IAH not DFW. So this is a different route altogether I assume.
ZuluLima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 6): Jade's website had an article stating the routing was to be SZN-YVR-IAH not DFW. So this is a different route altogether I assume.
That's why I found out about it on Houstonspotters.net, they're concerned that the previously announced Jade flights are being lost to DFW. This is probably the case if Jade does come here. They don't seem to have a fleet large enough to allot more than the 3x weekly to Texas, wether that be IAH or DFW.
DYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 6): Jade's website had an article stating the routing was to be SZN-YVR-IAH not DFW. So this is a different route altogether I assume.
They dropped the plans to serve IAH via YVR. Lack of cargo via YVR?
ZuluLima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 266 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1701 times:
Aren't airports such as YVR and ANC just intermediaries anyway, as 744 freighters can't make it direct to Asia from most of the US? Also, I would suspect YVR would have enough cargo to contribute to any route as it is the major Canadian port on the west coast.
DYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1672 times:
Quoting ZuluLima (Reply 9): Aren't airports such as YVR and ANC just intermediaries anyway, as 744 freighters can't make it direct to Asia from most of the US? Also, I would suspect YVR would have enough cargo to contribute to any route as it is the major Canadian port on the west coast.
I wish it had but there is not a lot out of Vancouver. In the summer the bellies are usually full with perishable cargo but very little manifacturing in Vancovuer that can fill the capacity. The sea-air traffic which is a filler is very low yield. Much of the freight out of Vancovuer is trucked up from Seattle or Portland which are much larger cargo markets than Vancouver. Cathay operates a freighter ex YVR with a few main deck position allocated but most of the freight on these freighters originated in California. In bound from Asia is not to bad but still not a lucrative as the SEA or PDX markets.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1526 times:
Quoting DYK (Reply 8): They dropped the plans to serve IAH via YVR. Lack of cargo via YVR?
Quoting Carnoc (Reply 11): I understand the following is slightly off-topic, but it is somewhat related to D/FW.
It seems that D/FW airport is planning to talk China Eastern into launching non-stop direct flights between Shanghai and D/FW.
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