Fly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2033 times:
Just came in last night on EK93 from Milan, and as we were about to touch down the plane aborted landing for a go around. After a while the pilot announced that they had aborted because they 'didn't have landing clearance' and there was 'some congestion on the apron'.
At first this sounded strange to me, that a few secnds before touch down they realised they didn't have clearance??? The aircraft then proceed out to seas and came back in 15 mins loater. Landing was quite fast and it took longer than usual to slow the aircraft down I thought.
I then heard from a friend who had arrived just a bit before us that he saw fire trucks screaming out to the runway. Just wondering if anybody can confirm what exactly happened with these two events and whether they are related.
PatZSC From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2006, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1958 times:
Sounds very much like what I have experienced back in ZRH in spring 06 - aborted landing and did a turnaround. You could then hear the 'no flaps' warning in the cockpit (it was on an Avro) during second approach. Slowing down on the runway took obviously longer and firetrucks were following the aircraft.
Nothing serious, just precaution. Guess this happens many times.
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1553 times:
Quoting Fly2CHC (Thread starter): At first this sounded strange to me, that a few secnds before touch down they realised they didn't have clearance???
No it's not strange - it's normal and happens hundreds of times each day around the world.
An aircraft will be issued landing clearance based on the anticipation that a just landed aircraft or a planned takeoff aircraft will clear the runway. Then a short distance before touchdown both the pilot and the controller will realize that the runway will not be clear in time - and the aircraft is told to go around, or the pilot announces he is going around.
The same thing with runway incursions, either unauthorized or authorized.
The pilot is technically correct because the landing clearance is cancelled when he is told to go around.
From your description of the events, it's most likely the pilot of your aircraft only knew something was forcing the controllers to tell him to go around.
Another very strong possibility is that some aircraft was stopped on a taxiway which would have prevented your aircraft from clearing the runway in an efficient manner - so a go around was issued.
Lastly, when the crash equipment is committed to investigate a potential incident - most airports do not continue landing or taking off aircraft for a few minutes - because the equipment is out of position to respond correctly to any potential incident with your aircraft.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26900 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Happened to me on LH flight from MUC to DXB . We were comming into land then suddenly the engines roared and we went back up for a go around. Pilot came on and said the AC before us had not cleared the runway.