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737-900 Going Transcon Tonight  
User currently offlineNuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10672 times:

I was shocked to see the 7:10 to lax tonight is a 737-900!!! I have flown it to las weight restricted so i cant see how it can make it to lax tonight?

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User currently offlineTyphaerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 619 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10637 times:
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On who, from where, you need a bit more information before we make and judgement...


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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10637 times:

Are we talking Continental, Alaska, just curious of the airline and the 7:10 from where ?

Thanks

LGA777


User currently offlineChris133 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10596 times:

I don't think that is much of a surprise, the -900er has a range of 3,200 nautical miles (5,925 km) - two-class layout, 2 aux. tanks 2,700 nautical miles - one class layout (per the Boeing website).

User currently offlineDoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10578 times:

AS had them regularly scheduled for transcons when they first came on board. Occasionaly caused problems westbound, but nothing new.


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User currently offlinePhllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10510 times:

The winds have been light to none this past week.

Actually it's taken anywhere from 15-20 minutes longer to go East than West. My LAX-PHL red-eye on 8/28 took 5 hours, where my PHL-LAX yesterday took 4:45. Seems like a reverse of the normal wind pattern/jet stream.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10510 times:

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 3):
I don't think that is much of a surprise, the -900er has a range of 3,200 nautical miles (5,925 km) - two-class layout, 2 aux. tanks 2,700 nautical miles - one class layout (per the Boeing website).

Can't be a -900er...

 Wink



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10434 times:

I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10308 times:

Quoting Nuggetsyl (Thread starter):
I was shocked to see the 7:10 to lax tonight is a 737-900!!! I have flown it to las weight restricted so i cant see how it can make it to lax tonight?

This has already been done before, nothing new...see below....

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).

 checkmark  CO has done it with the IAH-ANC route, I believe.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9595 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10203 times:

He's talking about Continental Airlines flight 1502 EWR-LAX tonight departing at 7:10pm.

The 739 has the range to do it. With strong winds or when the load is high, then the plane can struggle to make the route. But this isn't completely new. AS went to the 738 because it had more practial operating range. The figures on Boeing's website are representative of the best case condition with no winds.

It is definitely not a 739ER since only 5 have been built and all have gone to Lion Air in Indonesia.



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User currently offlineSeabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5393 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10156 times:

Shorter transcons like EWR-LAX would rarely cause a problem for the 739A in the summer. AS's seasonal second SEA-BOS-SEA flight has been a 739A for a couple of years. It hasn't had anything like the troubles that AS had when they tried to do SEA-MCO-SEA year round with the 739A.

Given the frequently ridiculous demand, I'm surprised that AS doesn't operate SEA-DCA-SEA with 739s in the summer.

[Edited 2007-09-05 23:43:20]

User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9986 times:

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
I believe the SEA-MCO flight on AS was originally a 737-900 when the route was launched (now a 737-800).

SEA-MIA was operated with the 739 for awhile as well. Again, transcon 739s are nothing to get too excited about.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9910 times:

I just wonder of CO and AS will eventually add the 739ER to their respective fleets or not. I hope they will....


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User currently offlineSlovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9882 times:

CO already have quite a few 900ERs on order which will probably start being delievered within the next year.

Slovacek747


User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9809 times:

IIRC, 12 of the 30 737s to be delivered to CO in 2008 will be -900ERs. But I could be wrong and I didn't take the time to look it up.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9730 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
CO has done it with the IAH-ANC route, I believe.

Absolutely correct, in fact IIRC during the summer season they had 3 daily IAH-ANC non-stops on the 738's.

[Edited 2007-09-06 01:21:10]


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16858 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9418 times:

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 14):
IIRC, 12 of the 30 737s to be delivered to CO in 2008 will be -900ERs. But I could be wrong and I didn't take the time to look it up.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I read in one of CO's recent reports that they are going to take delivery of 18 737-900ERs in 2008.



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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8301 times:

Strange...

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8089 times:

Quote:
Strange...

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.

 checkmark 

But not necessarily 739s, usually 737-800 units with turkish, UK charter airlines etc.

Alex


User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7875 times:

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 18):
But not necessarily 739s, usually 737-800 units with turkish, UK charter airlines etc.

Apart from that, EWR-LAS is a whole lot further than many European routes anyway.
If your compare TFN-DUB or TFN-NRN (1560nm and 1716nm resp) both operated with 738 to EWR-LAS (1935nm) you will get the point.
Europeans tend to forget how big the US really is, few of us realize that the distance New York - Los Angeles is equal to London - Baghdad, Rome - Lagos (Nigeria) and Stockholm - Kabul (Afghanistan).
Now try THAT on a 737...


User currently offlineASMD11 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7634 times:

Quoting Seabosdca (Reply 10):
Given the frequently ridiculous demand, I'm surprised that AS doesn't operate SEA-DCA-SEA with 739s in the summer.

Because of the runway length in DCA and other issues the 739 can't make it all the way to SEA with a useful load of fuel/pax. It has been done a few times but that flight would usually make a flagstop in DEN though on a one occasion they made it to GEG for the flagstop for fuel.


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7494 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 17):

737:s on 6 hour flights is every day business in Europe on charter flights
to for example Canary Islands.

And we do not even think about it.

Yet everyone seems to complain about a 6 hour flight across the pond in a 757?


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7252 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 21):
Yet everyone seems to complain about a 6 hour flight across the pond in a 757?


Usually the people in C-class.
 Smile

Ps. Stockholm-Las Palmas is 2333 nautical miles and it
is many flights per week with 737-800. Ds.


User currently offlineXAAPB From Mexico, joined Jan 2005, 436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6202 times:

Hi,
Right now on flightaware AS25 from BOS to SEA in a 739:
Live 739 FlightAware
Greetings



Jorge Meneses
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

Quoting XAAPB (Reply 23):
Hi,
Right now on flightaware AS25 from BOS to SEA in a 739:
Live 739 FlightAware
Greetings

...and it also looks like they blocked 16 seats for weight and balance (not counting the last row of seats blocked).

F L Y 7 7 7 U A L


25 Post contains images Seabosdca : (slaps head) duh... should have thought of that.
26 JetsGo : I like how the OP posts some uninforming garbage post with no discriptions, then hits the road with no further words.[Edited 2007-09-06 18:17:59]
27 EWRCabincrew : For the record, the flight in question, CO 1502, left the gate early at 1908, took off at 2010, landed at 2224 and got to the gate at 2233, 7 minutes
28 Post contains images PHKLM : This tactic if more formally known as: "hit 'n run"
29 AirframeAS : AS just did it last week ferrying the Washington Huskies Football team to SYR on a 739.
30 Nuggetsyl : sorry I typed it and ran. It was continental ewr to lax
31 JoeCanuck : OS has a regular flight from DXB-VIE, which clocks in at about 6 hours. They use a 737-800 for the route.
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