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Too Sexy To Fly? Southwest's New Attitude?  
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5607 posts, RR: 8
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 77020 times:

OK...... I don't get it......

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m.../braun/20070905-9999-1m5braun.html
I read this and just had to bring it here. What the heck is Southwest's problem? I have never heard of hti s before but I can understand as sometimes people just don't get it on dressing but this woman is not dressed any worse than what is normal nowadays.

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After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.


OK, I edited to remove the pic and not bust the copyright. Click here to see her pic (its worth it
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070905/images/braun220.jpg

So I ask our Southwest brethren (and sistren?) out there, what the hell was Keith's problem? It just sounds too bizarre.

Tug

[Edited 2007-09-05 23:36:42]


I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. -W. Shatner
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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4567 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76969 times:

The skirt is super short. She was able to sit like that in a chair for a photograph. Could she sit like that in the plane? Perhaps she was unknowingly putting on a show for the rest of the plane if you know what I mean. And who dresses like that to fly out of town for an appointment that lasts only a couple of hours? It is always good to dress comfortable when you travel but shesh. Maybe not everyone wanted to see the goods lol.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineGeorgebush From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 679 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76936 times:

She was most likely going to sort out divorce matters with her ex-husband, and wanted to make him jealous.


Al Gore invented global warming.
User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76908 times:

The part I find most interesting is the WN agent's response to whether one can wear a bikini top on the aircraft:

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

WN wrote to the woman's mother (?) that WN enforces a dress code to:
"ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”"

Interesting. Where's the burkha requirement?

From the article: “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks"  Big grin


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76883 times:

It really doesn't matter if others perceived it to be too short or what not. I don't see anything offensive written on her shirt. I agree that what she had on is not exactly ideal for flying commercially, but you know, in this day of age, nothing should really surprise anyone in regards to how people dress when flying. I have asked a teenager before to put another shirt over a tee shirt he was wearing which had a pretty offensive, vulgar word on it because that would have offended people.....and he agreed to....but legally, I just don't think the airlines have any grounds for pulling someone off a flight because they don't like the way they are dressed. It says something about society, sure, but it's the world we live in.

[Edited 2007-09-05 23:20:55]

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4567 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76883 times:

It may have been the skirt and he was too embarrassed to say it. Without turning this R rated perhaps he didn't want to say it wasn't the shirt or skirt but rather the lack of undergarments?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76884 times:

Quoting Analog (Reply 3):
WN wrote to the woman's mother (?) that WN enforces a dress code to:
"ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”"

Adults with heightened sensitivities? What the hell? LOL


User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76690 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):

Adults with heightened sensitivities? What the hell? LOL

Perhaps airlines should go back to the days when they handed out blindfolds to all passengers.


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76655 times:

What a hottie though...who cares. The airlines need more eye candy these days. I wish more FA's were as smokin as her.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3388 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76657 times:

Thankfully, good looking and fit women are still allowed to wear a mini skirt here in Europe  Yeah sure

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4892 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76588 times:

Well she's not that hot and that outfit certainly wasn't that offensive. Perhaps those who weighted in on the Qatari Royal being booted off a flight thread would care to comment on western tolerance here?

My guess, the woman was being a bitch and the FA used whatever reason was available to boot her off. In my experience women who gravitate towards Gucci are bitches (see the bag).

Another possibility she was sweating like crazy and that white top became sort of see through.

YOWza



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76519 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
Adults with heightened sensitivities? What the hell?

The ability to crack a fat (pop wood, get a boner) at a moments notice.

"Keith" went overboard. What she had on is more than fine. I see far worse. The airline is not there to judge fashion. So she sits down and the possiblity of a vertical smile looms. BFD.

If "Keith" takes someone off for a mini skirt (and the possibility of the free show), where does he stop? Gnarly looking toes on someone wearing flip-flops? Breast augmentions that are wicked huge (and not in a good way)?

Someone takes his job far too seriously.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4567 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 76519 times:

I'm not complaining btw. I would have gladly let her sit by me  Smile


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineAH332 From Algeria, joined Mar 2007, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76467 times:

Hi,

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 9):
Thankfully, good looking and fit women are still allowed to wear a mini skirt here in Europe

Nicely put my friend!  thumbsup 

Cheers,
Imad



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76389 times:

No one on Southwest should ever fly with a mini-skirt on!!!!



IGNORE THAT PICTURE!!!


User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76315 times:

Wow. Well summer is almost over. I have seen my fair share of skimpy here at ORD let me tell you. AA agents and some other TSA folks were talking about this young lady who looked like she just came from the hoochy club in the first class line. She had on heels yet her little diva shorts we just high and you could see her cheeks. She had on no panties!!

User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5607 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76282 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
The skirt is super short.

Yeah but..... :

Quoting Tugger (Thread starter):
“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”



Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
She was able to sit like that in a chair for a photograph. Could she sit like that in the plane?


Well on the plane she'd have a seat in front of her.

Quoting Indy (Reply 5):
It may have been the skirt and he was too embarrassed to say it. Without turning this R rated perhaps he didn't want to say it wasn't the shirt or skirt but rather the lack of undergarments?



Quoting Someone83 (Reply 9):
Thankfully, good looking and fit women are still allowed to wear a mini skirt here in Europe

And thankfully they are allowed here too. I agree with your 'rolleyes', its a little strange.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
My guess, the woman was being a bitch and the FA used whatever reason was available to boot her off. In my experience women who gravitate towards Gucci are bitches (see the bag).

A little bit presumptive of you. There was no comment about a confrontation with the FA and I can't believe that WN would not have mentioned that if there was.

Quoting Indy (Reply 12):
I'm not complaining btw. I would have gladly let her sit by me Smile

OK, I'm relieved, you had my wondering there for a minute. Big grin She can sit next to me anytime and if she has to climb over to get to her seat even better!  Smile

The ONLY thing I can think of is that perhaps she had an aisle seat and with her short skirt more than the skirt was visible as one walked down the aisle. But even still all the FA had to do was bring her a blanket and, with a big smile, let her know that the world could see her and it might be best to protect her dignity. Its not that tough to figure out.

Tug



I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. -W. Shatner
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76281 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 14):
No one on Southwest should ever fly with a mini-skirt on!!!!

Ah yes, the real golden age of aviation!


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 76205 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 5):
Without turning this R rated perhaps he didn't want to say it wasn't the shirt or skirt but rather the lack of undergarments?

I'll say it.....perhaps the agent thought the lady was going commando, or perhaps wondered why she was doing her Britney Spears imitation  wink 

Nice backhanded jab at San Diego, though.....she's gotta go to fly to Tucson to find a doctor that she obvious can't find in LoCal. (and here I thought we here in New Orleans were hurting for doctors)

Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
My guess, the woman was being a bitch and the FA used whatever reason was available to boot her off.

That thought crossed my mind, as well.


Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75979 times:
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I see passengers dressed worse than that EVERY day - and plenty of them.


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User currently offlineRamp2CSA2FA2FO From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 21 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75974 times:

I have seen far worse board my airplane and would never think to say anything to any of my PAX about their attire. Though I might not agree with what they are wearing, we do live in a free country and as long as all the necessary parts are covered there should not be a problem. The outfit she was wearing actually looked quite nice compared to many other outfits I have seen. For those of You who travel, how often have you "people watched" in the terminal on ground sits, and wondered what the heck people were thinking when they got dressed? As far as the statement about "adults and children with heightened sensitivities", perhaps those people should not go out of their house. I am tired of having to walk on egg shells with people and their feelings........Grow up! For those parents who say it might be offensive to their children, these are probably the same parents who took their "children" to see the "Simpson's Movie". (My point here is that there always seems to be somone who has a double standard when it comes to something offensive to their children, which by the way I thought the "Simpson's Movie" was hillarious.)

Happy Landings

Jay.


User currently offlineDragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75918 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 1):
She was able to sit like that in a chair for a photograph. Could she sit like that in the plane? Perhaps she was unknowingly putting on a show for the rest of the plane if you know what I mean.

Wow, did not know that Southwest had seat pitch big enough for her to put on a show for the rest of the plane!! Honestly the only people who would have a chance at a show are the people in her row, or anyone moving in the aisle if she had an aisle seat. Either way, I dont think its that big of a deal.



Phrogs Phorever
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4567 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75872 times:

I personally have no problem with it. And as a pig (male) I welcome it Big grin


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineFLALEFTY From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 470 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75841 times:

If I had been the captain, I would have invited her up to the jump seat in the cockpit.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 75841 times:

Quote:
Well summer is almost over.

Not in San Diego it isn't...it's been ridiculously hot here with humidities more akin to the Amazon jungle. Knowing that air conditioning systems here haven't been able to keep up, perhaps she was dressing appropriately for both San Diego and Tucson.

As for "Keith", is it really his job to determine who is dressed appropriately or not? I ask that in all seriousness - who is the final authority on what a person can wear and what they can not?

Quote:
“We don't have a dress code.”

At some point, yes you do - every public place, whether it's written down or not, will tell the person wearing nothing but a "g-string and a smile" to leave and not return until they are attired more appropriately.

The question in this case is exactly where is this line?



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25 ArcrftLvr : It would be impossible to put on a show with a seat or bulkhead about 33" in front of her. And who are you to pass judgement on how anyone should dre
26 Boeing7E7 : One thing not apparent, was she wearing anything under the skirt, and if not was this the problem?
27 Indy : And who are you to make such a comment about my comment? If some 400lb guy wearing a thong only got on the plane and wanted to sit next to you would
28 ArcrftLvr : That's fine, but keep your judgements to yourself. I have thought the same things of other people, but I don't put them down in writing.
29 Tugger : Again if that was the problem then that would have been an entirely different discussion between Keith and here and it would have resulted in a diffe
30 XT6Wagon : want fun (of a sadistic sort), just think of the enjoyment that young woman would have jumping on a slide if they had to evacuate for some reason. Mor
31 Silentbob : I have always used the "tube top and a jockstrap" example myself, but yours works quite well. We all judge everyone on some level be it dress, behavi
32 Indy : I have a right to express my opinion just as much as you do. There is no difference in commenting on how someone dressed or how someone acted.
33 BNinMSY : Poor Keith .. it probably wasn't him .. but some freaked out passenger that complained and Keith had to 'respond' ... if he was serious Idon't think h
34 Zvezda : In Pridnestrovie it is common for skirts to not completely cover the cheeks, though thongs are usually worn underneath unless the weather is too hot
35 Post contains images LTBEWR : Probably 'Keith' is some hypocritical prude, the kind that tells women how to dress, and (for example) supports the President's war in Iraq. Yes, her
36 NG1Fan : Maybe 'Keith', batting for the other team, got a case of 'heightened sensitivities' and he freaked out! I think he was out of line. The young lady in
37 N1120A : Brilliant!! Anyway, this is pretty stupid, especially considering that WN's home state of Texas is known for their women walking around with T&A popp
38 Lexy : That's EXACTLY what I thought! LOL!!
39 Post contains images Silver1SWA : I never heard about this. Hmmm, interesting. There must be more to the story. You should see some of the outfits we see on a typical Friday night SAN-
40 Indy : It could have been worse. He could have had to tell the person that they stink. What could be worse than that? Well maybe telling them they need two
41 Post contains images PanAm747 : If Keith indeed does "bat for the other team", he would have told her, "that's a lovely outfit you're wearing - if you're planning on continuing to h
42 Post contains images Tugger : Hooray!....... Someone from SWA! Yes please do, I am curious as to "the other side" I can only imagine! But I know what I see at SAN when I'm heading
43 MSYtristar : The guy had F&&K in big print on his shirt. Not offensive to me...but the flight crew in the gate area sure noticed it and thought it'd be a good ide
44 Mir : Nothing in that outfit, regardless of whether you think it looks good or not) that justifies removal from a flight. This F/A screwed up. -Mir
45 Delta767300ER : She has ugly legs, but I have seen people dress way worse than that on an airplane. She may be dressed like a hoochie but IMO its not that bad. I figu
46 Post contains images Concordegboad : She looks so innocent in that SignOnSanDiego picture. Now, take a look at her Myspace pictures and that'll change your mind! I won't link them here Sh
47 Post contains images Airbus767 : I've seen worst on CATHOLIC high school dress down days, and they don't get reprimanded. I can't help but wonder though, would she have been allowed t
48 Silver1SWA : Wow, good call! Like I said, there has to be more to the story. I'm having my doubts that her appearance in that photo is a 100% accurate depiction o
49 Post contains links Delta767300ER : That shows even more hypocraticy(sp) of the Roman Catholic Church but thats for another forum. We all know she's a slut according to her MySpace pict
50 ABQopsHP : Airlines are like any other business. they have the right to enforce a dress code that is appropriate in public. I notice that the only picture shown
51 HuskyAviation : The outfit isn't THAT bad, I've seen worse. There was no reason for the FA to make an issue of it. Now all SWA gets is bad publicity with this story.
52 Ikramerica : It sounds like it was a lack of underwear. Notice she crossed her leg in the pick. Could be wrong, but really does sound like she was flashing down be
53 SHUPirate1 : A doctor's appointment! Not a job interview...
54 Spark : I think there are people making way too much of this. This is pretty cut and dry. She was wearing a provacative outfit which is not out of the norm in
55 SkyyMaster : Ah, only in America. Would this really have been an issue in most other "first world" nations? So many Americans in general are so hung up on sex or a
56 Silver1SWA : And so have I! I see worse get on our planes every day at the same airport! It's not like Keith or any other CSS wander through the terminal to find
57 Post contains images Steeler83 : Um... "Come on down"??? They look like some reunion of Barkers' Beauries... Or, in the case of his successor, Carey's Cuties...
58 Ikramerica : newspapers and tv like to take pictures that illustrate THEIR take on the story. you see it all the time, with orchestrated photos meant to tell the
59 AA61Hvy : "Keith" must have been playing for the other team...
60 FutureUALpilot : I have no problem with it, but, people (not just her, but most passengers) need to remember flying is a privilege, not a right.
61 EWRCabincrew : I play for the other team and she'd have stayed put. Hell, she probably dressed better than a lot of those other customers.
62 Sfomb67 : Looks to me like Keith was the one having the bad day!
63 Silver1SWA : Or, maybe he was called into action to do the dirty work upon request from say, THE FLIGHT CREW? What if the Captain was a woman and was offended? I'
64 MSYtristar : Maybe not. There are a lot of trigger happy, power tripping Supervisors out there.
65 Zvezda : Indeed. In cases where I was present and saw the whole thing, I've seen at least as many cases of power tripping CSRs or cabin crew abusing an innoce
66 QQflyboy : Actually, they do. They are a private company and can institute a "no shirt, no shoes, no service" policy just like any other business. In this case,
67 MSYtristar : Do they really make it public knowledge though? It's not like when you buy a ticket they tell you what you have to wear.
68 QQflyboy : Page 10 of Southwest's contract of carriage addresses refusal of transport due to clothing, however, it is not specific. It also notes those who are
69 AY104 : I think the supervisor really needs to stop taking himself so seriously, and get a good grip on reality. I see girsl on the street all the time, dress
70 ArcrftLvr : Last I checked, WN was a public company.
71 QQflyboy : Publicly traded? Yes. However, they are not a government owned/operated entity in which their policies would be up for public debate. They can make t
72 Post contains images WesternA318 : LMAO, you work at WN..just HOW serious can you get? Shhesh..it's not like you work at Aeroflot or CO..lol
73 Post contains images SkyexRamper : Was that an all women crew on that flight...surely the captain could have made his executive decision to go with a hot woman on his flight..
74 Phoenix9 : This is just a thought so dont know if it makes sense. Here it goes: It could be that she was travelling on plane for the first time in her life and w
75 Silver1SWA : It is very unlikely he was there from the start. Something took place on that aircraft requiring a supervisor to be called in. I know there is more t
76 RachelBDL : I'm a WN employee, and I looked into it a little as a ground ops employee. According to our manual, we can deny a passenger transport "whose clothing
77 FlyDreamliner : this is a case of one stupid airline employee... not a problem with Southwest. Truth be told, I think WN has the most attractive and personable F/A's
78 Post contains images Silver1SWA : Unbelievable...
79 Aauzou : they should have hired her, hot stuff Regards
80 Post contains images Siege2L : How about this as a possible scenario: "Keith" secretly likes Ebbert. This "Keith" decides to pick on her. What "Keith" really wants is a date, howeve
81 EDICHC : If not specific then is practically (in a legal sense) unenforceable. Other companies or establishments are often very specific if they enforce a dre
82 MSYtristar : Nothing at all. Short skirt. So what? Much ado about nothing, and clear over reacting by the employee in question. Flying on an airplane these days i
83 HuskyAviation : This I disgree with. They have probably left the "dress code" deliberately vague in order to make it subjectively enforceable.
84 Tockeyhockey : i think she looks great and is perfectly appropriately dressed for a flight. the skirt is a bit short, but when you can pull it off, you're free to we
85 Gregarious119 : You guys are going hard on Keith, but there are plenty of other worse ways he could've handled the situation. She could've been given no explanation,
86 DeltaDC9 : But fat people are not allowed to wear speedos on the beach in Italy....at least in one town. Funny as hell.... Judge not....good advice.... Bigot Yo
87 StrandedInBGM : Can anyone say Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct".
88 JRDC930 : There is such a thing as public indecency; you dont go to the airport dressed like a hooker and expect no one to notice. WN is completely within their
89 DrExotica : Once again, Zvezda has it right!
90 MSYtristar : To those people I say just look the other way. She's sitting down for the entire flight most likely. Only one person would really have to be in direc
91 Post contains images JRDC930 : Justification is a matter of opinion, and obviously WN had a different opinion than yours on what constitutes indecency. No one was saying wear a lon
92 DeltaDC9 : You sound like a freakin Quaker. Lighten up. Women dress like that at major corporations. One just passed me in the hall wearing a micro mini and we
93 Micstatic : She's not the hottest chick I've ever seen, but I don't even see how this could be offensive. If anything, we need more of this.
94 Post contains images JRDC930 : What corporate world do you live in...? You think I'm a Quaker; i woudnt care if the lady was nude , but others might and since WN is a company with
95 MSYtristar : If they call that indecency, well, I feel sorry for them. Honestly. It's not like she had a mesh top on with no bra to match the skirt. That's just n
96 Post contains images Phoenix9 : There seems to be more to the story though! As others have said that she might have been going commando....now it could be that she just dropped somet
97 Post contains links Highflier92660 : This story has comical overtones. If one were to look at the PSA uniforms of the 1970's http://www.jetpsa.com/stewgrad/7404.jpg with mini-dresses cut
98 Pauliboy : Personally, I'm far more concerned about hygiene than short-shorts. Ever been forced to sit next to someone wearing a tank-top, who also needs a bath?
99 Post contains images Tom in NO : 10:1 odds she ends up laying down for some skin rag.....either that or for some flick filmed in Chatsworth Tom at MSY
100 Dragonflyer : Oay, so this topic has me laughing like crazy! It reminds me of the game telephone where the story gets so twisted that by the end everything is all t
101 Post contains links BOACVC10 : Hi, I think she will benefit from all this publicity, due to pictures (WARNING: Explicit) that are available through this link, (see the "another" pi
102 DL021 : Ok...does anyone else notice that she's waving the "shocker" at the camera? I gotta ask if the airline is allowed to run itself the way it sees fit an
103 Post contains images MSYtristar : I seriously doubt that she went commando....especially with a skirt that short. And i'll say it again, if that outfit is "offensive" to the airline or
104 Post contains images AC888YOW : Bogus. She looks fine. Oh so fine 'Keith' was probably recently rejected by some attractive woman and decided to take it out on this young lady. Or ma
105 Tockeyhockey : ah, i love it when a brainwashed member of the religious right chimes in. quakers are actually quite liberal and wouldn't give two shits about how th
106 ConjureMe : "DING" You are now free to begin you're suspension from the forum. JRDC930 made a valid argument and instead of discrediting his post you made a pers
107 MSYtristar : Sorry man. I'll respectfully disagree here. Attire like that would certainly not constitute a liability for an airline. Not even close. And I have wo
108 DeltaDC9 : Coming from Indiana, I have no idea why I typed Quaker. Amish will do also. Absolutely. One where some women can pull that off and others cant based
109 Post contains links QQflyboy : Now there's a shout out to A.net on USA Today In the Sky as Ben talks about the subject, even pointing to the 60s/70s era photo of WN flight attendant
110 Iwok : Why would anyone kick here off????? He should be fired for trying to kick a babe off a SouthWest flight. Someone call Herb! iwok
111 Post contains images JRDC930 : No its not its her problem, she bought a ticket on THEIR airline, and agreed to submit to THEIR rules. You might say there isnt anything specific in
112 Delta767300ER : Could you please explain this? Thank You so much. -Delta767300ER
113 Ckfred : Here are two practical reasons why not to wear a skirt that short on an airplane. First, if there is a fire, a woman wearing a skirt that short has no
114 Analog : Then WN should tell her in advance what the rules are (dress code). It's kind of tough to argue that she agreed to the rules if WN doesn't even know
115 GARUDAROD : If Southwest is going to start banning passengers for looking like "working girls", they will have to ban half the people traveling to Las Vegas on Fr
116 DeltaDC9 : Insulting and stereotyping 1.1 billion people, not much to explain there. The same type of remark made against Blacks or Women would have not been ov
117 TexL1649 : Potentially another argument against having 97% homosexual cabin crews. Pointless Trivia; The nazi's had a topless airline briefly (in the 30's). Poin
118 Silentbob : No way I'm taking that bet. She'll have that photoshoot contract signed by next weekend. I need to get on the guest list for one of their parties. Ac
119 MSYtristar : Ok, not even diving into the rest of your post, how is this in any way related to "if she was in a g-string and mesh bra"? She was clearly in nothing
120 Delta767300ER : I am a former Catholic and have seen the hypocraticy(sp) in the Catholic Church. Nearly everyone knows it to. Go ahead say I am insulting and stereot
121 DrExotica : This may be a bit of exageration, but there is a lot of truth to it. Half the decent (heh) gals that work the peeler bars here in SoCal head up to Ve
122 EWRCabincrew : Practical, yes, but few (and I mean few) women actually think about those aspects (let alone a mirror to see what it is they are really wearing, I di
123 747400sp : I have to take Southwest side on this. Yes flying dress codes has change since the 70's, but you should still dress like you have some type of class,
124 XT6Wagon : What does Air Nambia and British international helicopter have to do with this? I'm thinking that most women who are "pros" know a good bit about how
125 EWRCabincrew : That includes no-class. There have been threads about dress codes and what should/shouldn't be worn onboard. WN is not the fashion police.
126 Post contains images Geotrash : What a teriffic outfit! She's a beautiful woman and it doesn't look like her clothes would get her in any trouble with the law in public. Still, it's
127 Silver1SWA : Well, I asked around and I got some answers. Not that anyone here will pay any attention to what I have to say here, but... My suspicions were correct
128 Zvezda : Yes, WN are completely within their rights to throw her off for any reason whatsoever. I'm within my rights to boycott WN for such an offensive exerc
129 FlyboyOz : I would like to know how old Kevin is!
130 BNinMSY : She has dragged herself onto the TODAY show right now! It's interesting when she was showing off her outfit and sat back down .. the camera BLURRED he
131 Flyinryan99 : Are you sure it was blurred? I coulda swore they were white panties. Needless to say, they were short but I think the situation could've been handled
132 Post contains images PC12Fan : Especially on Southwest! More then absolutely correct.
133 Midcon385 : Watching on the replay on MSNBC.com and I am pretty sure it was panties... Tim
134 Post contains images Learpilot : I think they showed the interview more than once. It probably got by the first time, but they blurred out her snizz the others. That wasn't a skirt y
135 DeltaDC9 : Funny man, huh? Will it stop me from making obvious appreviations? Nope. Exactly! The defining quality of a bigot. HEY! I resemble that remark!
136 PROSA : My theory: she was sitting next to a couple, the wife was afraid that her husband would get too much of an eyeful, and she complained to the FA.
137 Pope : Please explain what liability you are talking about. Enlighten us.
138 Goomba : Southwest should be totally used to this type of attire considering the number of "worker bee" types that fly from the L.A. and San Francisco/Oakland/
139 Remcor : I agree that the outfit was not offensive... certainly not offensive enough to be booted off a flight. And although i agree that Southwest has the ri
140 1stfl94 : Since when did America become the land of the clothing faciscts!!!????? Like others have said on this forum 30 years ago the FA's were wearing skirts
141 DeC :
142 Remcor : So if the airline can deny boarding to a passenger at the last minute for a rather frivolous reason (breaking their contract with their customer), sho
143 BAC111 : Every flight would be more enjoyable with more women like Ms. Kyra on board. Airlines oughta focus on things they have real trouble with, like being o
144 FlyboyOz : Well...my teacher wore similar to her clothes when i was in high school. I should have reported to my principal! Of course, it's quite offended to me
145 Delta767300ER : And you have the quality of an idiot to judge me. You dont know me and probably never will. I express an opinion and get shit on from you. I guess we
146 Zvezda : The video clip is called LiveLeak. One wonders what she was leaking.
147 LTBEWR : Upon seeing a video (see post 141 from DeC) from the NBC Today Show, to me she showed somewhat poor judgement in her outfit for an air flight or a day
148 Silver1SWA : Maybe no one complained directly to her, but there were complaints.
149 Remcor : Safety problems? Yeah right. Then ban high-heel shoes. I think she'd be out that door quicker than most people. Again, is this a judgment call you th
150 MSYtristar : There are way too many prudes out there. That's a big problem with America. The lawyer made a good point when talking about Paris Hilton. I bet Keith
151 Zvezda : If US airlines were remotely interested in a safe evacuation in the event of an emergency, there would not be FAs working (well, those I've seen don't
152 Wingletsman : SUE THEIR BUTTS!!!! :D HEHE!! WINGLETS!!!! she looks sad!!
153 Post contains images JRDC930 : Nice to see the kind of people that fly these days have absolutely no regard for what is worn on a plane. I think ill go nude to the airport and see w
154 Post contains links FlyboyOz : It's similar to the german news about bus driver told a sexy woman to get off the bus two months ago. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22085306-13
155 Zvezda : If an airline has a problem with the way a passenger is dressed, the right time to mention it is during check-in, not after everyone has boarded and
156 OPNLguy : I've tried to stay out of this thread for obvious reasons, but the lunacy of the reactions here and in the media has just gotten absolutely ridiculou
157 Post contains images Remcor : What about wearing a skimpy outfit inside a movie theater? Flight from SAN to Tuscon is about the same length of time as a movie, and the seats are e
158 Tugger : Hello all, Just checking back in. Never knew that this thing would take off like it did, for me it was just an unusual situation and and very cute, bo
159 Post contains images FXramper : She looks like a 40 year old alcoholic. I'd boot her.
160 MDorBust : AH! So, you would give her the boot, eh? Know what I mean? Know what I mean? Nudge nudge. Say no more.
161 Post contains images Iwok : I notice in the video that her lawyer is present, which means a "civil rights" lawsuit coming up soon. I think she could make more money on a certain
162 MSYtristar : Policies which are never made clear to the public. They are only made clear when it comes down to this....asking someone to step off the aircraft. Be
163 LoneStarMike : I saw this story on different news outlets all day long. On the Inside Edition version, they read a response from Southwest which stated that there we
164 DeC : Anyone thought as well that MAYBE that Keith guy and the driver who kicked out the sexy lady from the bus a couple of months back in that other story
165 Chris133 : I also have been trying to stay out of this topic but things are getting out of hand a bit. People should not jump to condemn someone until they know
166 737tdi : Have you ever listened to Paul Harvey? "And now for the rest of the story", all of ya'll slammers, there is more to this story. Either she was going c
167 Par13del : Has anyone seen the security video or has that already been destroyed or not allowed for release due to security concerns, would that even help, what
168 MSYtristar : Right. I never doubted that it was there. But as I said, if they were serious about enforcing it, it should be put to the forefront...not just thrown
169 Zvezda : Why would that be a problem with your daughter? You want her to wear underwear in the summer when it's too hot to reasonably do so? Why do so many me
170 ConcordeGBOAD : She's been looking for attention for quite some time. It is apparent by her formerly public Myspace profile/pics. Someone should send the booty pictu
171 Chris133 : I understand your point about putting things to the forefront, but, how do you effectivly do that? This week its how you dress, next week it'll be pr
172 Post contains images MD80fanatic : It looks like she is wearing a white leotard..... with a blue top covering and a cutoff (from white jeans) skirt below. Even if the white skirt fell t
173 MSYtristar : I know. And I agree to an extent with what a lot of people are saying on here. But I guess you can't change the way people want themselves to be perc
174 BNinMSY : Her coochie was blurred on the NBC Today show ... when she sat back down.. BUT when the clip is run on MSNBC or other outlets it's not ... because tho
175 Post contains images MD80fanatic : Her "coochie" could not have been visible wearing a leotard. It wasn't even a thin see-thru type leotard (trust me, I looked very closely and repeate
176 2175301 : While I suspect there is more to the story than initially presented in the media; I am also concerned about some of the points I have read here: 1) Ai
177 Post contains images SANFan : IMHO, just another young lady hoping to be discovered and will probably end up either on the Stern show or Playboy and who knows after that... You obv
178 Remcor : It's kind of funny that a bunch of young to middle aged men are discussing ad nauseam what is appropriate or not appropriate for a young woman to wear
179 Silver1SWA : Wrong. If she took it to court, then the rest of the story would come out. She has no case. She, with the help from her mother, is just looking for 1
180 Post contains links Highflier92660 : This story has gotten legs far beyond all sensibility. In the interests of ferreting out the facts I did see Matt Lauer's interview with Kyla Ebbert-
181 Post contains links Psa188 : Of course, back in the day, Southwest flight attendants wore hot skimpy uniforms with hot pants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR7JApjgIGw
182 N911YX : The fact that this society puts up with such displays (her snatcx was on display boys and girls) says everything about the deteriorization of public
183 N911YX : The fact that this society puts up with such displays (her snatcx was on display boys and girls) says everything about the deteriorization of public
184 L-188 : Nobody ever reads the mice-type. I wasn't going to until.... If it can't be shown on daytime television, it shouldn't be tolerated on an aircraft.
185 MD80fanatic : Could you please point out where this happened? Do you have any proof at all to your assertion? What is the rest of the story, in your opinion? Can y
186 OPNLguy : I agree completely, and the ironic thing (which will continue to sail over the heads of many here) is that the other Customer (and not Keith) that wa
187 Silver1SWA : I have already stated my opinion many times in this thread. I do not think it would be wise for me to go into much more detail.
188 Tugger : Then you my friend have a very smokin' hot and sexually liberal woman at your side. In general, in the USA, lingerie is supposed to be sexy. You can
189 Post contains links Phoenix9 : This story is being beaten to death and every version seems to have some difference. Here is another link from a Toronto newspaper: http://www.thestar
190 N911YX : Sorry Tug, thot I was in MSYtristar's messasge when I quoted text. I have had to turn away numerous non-revs for inappropriate dress over the years a
191 Post contains images MD80fanatic : Yeah, I wish. When the poster said (WARNING: EXPLICIT) about this girl's myspace page.....I was concerned that perhaps I should not look at it. Howev
192 DeC : "Remember What It Was Like Before Southwest Airlines? You Didn't Have Hostesses in Hotpants. Remember? (1972)" speaks for itself
193 Post contains links and images Zippyjet : Tug couldn't have said it better than if I sad it myself! Being an employee with one of WN competitors FL for over five years I realize, the inflight
194 BA84 : Obviously she was going to see her gynecologist. BA84
195 RachelBDL : I've only posted once in this thread, so I'll add on a bit (will it ever end?) Even though I'm 3000 miles away, I feel like I've got a good idea of w
196 Post contains images USAirALB : Quoting FLALEFTY :If I had been the captain, I would have invited her up to the jump seat in the cockpit good one!
197 Tom in NO : The most accurate assessment I've seen in this entire thread. I'm sure that's gotten all of us at some point or other in our lives. One of the many r
198 WesternA318 : Yanno, I doubt either of these ladies would fly WN, come to think of it, well, except maybe Pam to see hubby (or ex?) Kid Rock in the double wide...
199 Post contains images Zippyjet : You'd be surprised! Many celebrities fly the big three low cost carriers: WN FL B6 Just like the rest of us, they're looking for the easiest and chea
200 Post contains images Barney Captain : Why, on the GMA show did they pixilate her (adjusted for T.V. outfit) crotch when she sat down? Why, by the time it aired on the West Coast, was that
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