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Question About 747 Airframe 21190/272  
User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but my search did not gave any results.
Looking at the photo of ZS-OOS I saw in the description that is was a Boeing 747-258C. When I searched the database I for some more pics of the same airframe I found one of the a/c in it's EL-AL time. However the type was then called Boeing 747-258C/SCD. But I could not see any signs it has a Side Cargo Door on the main-deck. The airframe obvious has a nose-door however.
My question is, Did Boeing build 747's with main-deck nose loading door without a main-deck Side Cargo Door? And if so, how many were build for which customers?

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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Quoting KL5147 (Thread starter):
Did Boeing build 747's with main-deck nose loading door without a main-deck Side Cargo Door? And if so, how many were build for which customers?

Yes Boeing has built such an aircraft. They are B747-200C (Convertible passenger/freighter), and only 13 aircraft were built with World Airways, El Al, Iraqi Airways amongst the customers. The success was in part limited by the arrival of the -200BM.


User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

Thank you for the fast and clear answer.
rgds Bart



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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Quoting KL5147 (Reply 2):
Thank you for the fast and clear answer.

You're welcome.

To be exact, you have to know that amongst the 13 built there are two versions with or without side cargo door. Iraqi Airways launched the SCD equipped -200C. MP was a late customer for that version too.

Edit:

Here's the whole list of customers for the B747-200C:

World Airways (3) 20651/20652/20653

Iraqi Airways (3) 21180/21181/22366

El Al (2) 21190/21594

Transamerica Airlines (3) 21964/21965/22403

Martinair (2) 23652/24061

Without certainty, I guess that only LY and WO have received B747-200C without Side Cargo Door.

[Edited 2007-09-06 14:22:11]

User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 3):
Without certainty, I guess that only LY and WO have received B747-200C without Side Cargo Door.

So that makes only 4 airframes similar to 21190/272 then.
(Almost just as rare, as the Alitalia MD-11's with the main-deck cargo-door fitted behind the wing)



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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

Quoting KL5147 (Reply 4):
So that makes only 4 airframes similar to 21190/272 then.
(Almost just as rare, as the Alitalia MD-11's with the main-deck cargo-door fitted behind the wing)

Yep! And they are even more rare as one of the former WO aircraft has been scapped, and as will be the former Hydro Air.


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