MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3271 times:
Pope Benedikt XVI was due to fly to Austria this morning, leaving Rome Ciampino at 9.30 AM local time and arriving at Wien International at 11.15 where a welcome ceremony was going to be held in his honor.
Was anybody at Wien airport when he landed ?
Did B. XVI fly on one of the Alitalia jets or did he take one of the aircrafts from the new Vatican charter airline?
I am curious to know.
His return flight will be from Wien International on Sunday at 19.45 PM. Planned landing time for Ciampino 21.30.
I suppose the return aircraft will be Austrian Airline.
Does the Pope get a special seat or does he fly in regular Business Class on short haul European flights?
Are these everybody's flights with a blocked Business cabin, or are they specially chartered flights?
Travel schedule:
11.15 Uhr Ankunft auf dem internationalen Flughafen Wien-Schwechat - Begrüßungszeremonie auf dem Flughafen (Ansprache des Heiligen Vaters)
12.00 Uhr Autofahrt vom Flughafen zum Platz Am Hof, auf der Fahrtroute Umsteigen in das 'Papamobil'
12.45 Uhr Ankunft auf dem Platz Am Hof. Gebet vor der Mariensäule auf dem Platz Am Hof (Grußworte des Heiligen Vaters)
13.30 Uhr Fahrt im 'Papamobil' zum Judenplatz
13.35 Uhr Stilles Gedenken vor dem Mahnmal für die österreichischen Opfer der Shoah auf dem Judenplatz
13.40 Uhr Fahrt im 'Papamobil' vom Judenplatz zur Apostolischen Nuntiatur
13.50 Uhr Ankunft in der Apostolischen Nuntiatur
17.15 Uhr Autofahrt zur Hofburg
17.30 Uhr Ankunft in der Hofburg Höflichkeitsbesuch beim Bundespräsidenten. Begegnung mit Vertretern des öffentlichen Lebens und des Diplomatischen Corps (Ansprache des Heiligen Vaters)
18.45 Uhr Autofahrt von der Hofburg zur Apostolischen Nuntiatur
19.00 Uhr Ankunft in der Apostolischen Nuntiatur – Vermutlich inoffizielles Grußwort zu Jugendlichen
SAMSTAG:
8.00 Uhr Autofahrt von der Apostolischen Nuntiatur zum Heldenplatz
8.15 Uhr Abflug mit Hubschrauber vom Heldenplatz nach Mariazell
9.15 Uhr Ankunft auf dem Flugfeld Mariazell
9.25 Uhr Fahrt im 'Papamobil' zur Basilika
9.45 Uhr Ankunft vor der Basilika
10.30 Uhr Heilige Messe aus Anlass des 850-Jahr-Jubiläums der Gründung des Heiligtums von Mariazell auf dem Vorplatz der Basilika (Predigt des Heiligen Vaters)
12.30 Uhr Einzug in die Sakristei der Basilika
13.30 Uhr Mittagessen mit den Mitgliedern der Österreichischen Bischofskonferenz und mit den Kardinälen und Bischöfen des päpstlichen Gefolges im Geistlichen Haus Mariazell
16.40 Uhr Gang zu Fuß vom Geistlichen Haus zur Basilika
16.45 Uhr Marianische Vesper mit Priestern, Ordensleuten, Diakonen und Seminaristen in der Basilika von Mariazell (Ansprache des Heiligen Vaters)
18.00 Uhr Fahrt im 'Papamobil' zum Flugfeld Mariazell
18.20 Uhr Ankunft auf dem Flugfeld
18.30 Uhr Abflug im Hubschrauber nach Wien
19.30 Uhr Ankunft auf dem Heldenplatz und Autofahrt zur Apostolischen Nuntiatur
19.50 Uhr Ankunft in der Apostolischen Nuntiatur
SONNTAG:
9.15 Uhr Autofahrt von der Apostolischen Nuntiatur zum Erzbischöflichen Palais
9.30 Uhr Ankunft im Erzbischöflichen Palais
9.45 Uhr Prozession vom Erzbischöflichen Palais zum Stephansplatz
10.00 Uhr Heilige Messe im Stephansdom (Predigt des Heiligen Vaters)
12.00 Uhr Angelusgebet auf dem Stephansplatz (Worte des Heiligen Vaters)
12.15 Uhr Gang zu Fuß vom Stephansdom ins Erzbischöfliche Palais
14.00 Uhr Autofahrt vom Erzbischöflichen Palais zur Apostolischen Nuntiatur
16.00 Uhr Autofahrt von der Apostolischen Nuntiatur zur Abtei Heiligenkreuz
16.30 Uhr Besuch der Abtei Heiligenkreuz (Ansprache des Heiligen Vaters)
17.00 Uhr Autofahrt von der Abtei Heiligenkreuz zum Wiener Konzerthaus
17.30 Uhr Ankunft im Wiener Konzerthaus. Begegnung mit Ehrenamtlichen/Freiwilligen aus dem sozial-karitativen Bereich (Ansprache des Heiligen Vaters)
18.45 Uhr Autofahrt vom Wiener Konzerthaus zum internationalen Flughafen Wien-Schwechat
19.15 Uhr Ankunft im internationalen Flughafen Wien-Schwechat. Verabschiedungszeremonie im Flughafen (Grußworte des Heiligen Vaters)
19.45 Uhr Abflug vom internationalen Flughafen Wien-Schwechat nach Rom
21.30 Uhr Ankunft auf dem Flughafen Rom-Ciampino
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27 Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3248 times:
Quoting F.pier (Reply 1): So AZ, which is a very profitable airline, dedicated one of its airplanes (they have a lot unused) as a private airline to a single person.
I hope the Vatican paid the ticket, but, I donno why, I don't think they paid something....
The pope has been flying with AZ for ages so why change it now. I am sure they will not give it to him for free.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3216 times:
Thank you very much for your answers with the links!
I think the press that are allowed on board the flight are paying their good share of the expanses. I am sure whoever is on board must probably pay for their travel. The costs must be split between the news reporters and the Vatican.
I hope the Pope enjoyed his flight.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3179 times:
If someone pays, it has to be the Vatican since the pope doesn't get paid anything to do the job. However I don't think anyone charges the pope, since they're getting to provide good and services to the Prince of the Apostles. They may ask to be allowed to take a picture of the pope boarding their jet, which is worth more to them than any ticket price anyway.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3177 times:
Great job, folks! I appreciated your quick feedback! Thanks!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
PADSpot From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 1676 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3171 times:
Outbound Italy the Pope flies on AZ and outbound of his destination he usually flies the national carrier of the respective country. He is usually sponsored by those airlines, which I think is not a big problem as he is not traveling that much compared to head of states, high-ranking business people and folks alike ...
Also note the "Travel with Angels" section near the beginning of the following page describing travels on TWA by previous Popes on several occasions. On at least one of those trips TWA carried the Pope round trip from Rome to New York, not just on the return journey. http://www.twaflightattendants.com/crewlounge.html
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2820 times:
I hope the Pontiff will have a good flight back to Rome. I am sure Austrian Airlines cabin crew will take good care of him on the flight.
They serve very tasty hot meals in Economy even on Intra Europe flights. I am sure they will give the Pope and his assessors a real treat.
He is a most decent level pianist and Wolfgang Amadeus is known to be his favourite composer. Maybe he will go home with a stack of Mozart Kugels in his luggage.
The only thing he will miss out on while at the airport is the ex-OS A-345 Wiener Philharmoniker aircraft all painted with cellos, violins, and other instruments. That was a most beautiful aircraft which recently got sold to SwissAir. It would have made a great and most appropriate aircraft to take the musician Pope back to Rome.
Enjoy your flight, Benedikt XVI
Quoting OHLHD (Reply 10): I found out that the pope will leave VIE on a OS A321 from VIE to Rom Ciampino in the late evening. Smile
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2811 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 11): They serve very tasty hot meals in Economy even on Intra Europe flights. I am sure they will give the Pope and his assessors a real treat.
He will travel business with a whole row removed so that he stretch his legs . Catering will be provided by DO & CO as there is nobody else anymore at VIE.
I always thought the Pope flies out of FCO and not CIA. Does the Pope always leave Rome on a plane from CIA or was this an exception?
Quoting F.pier (Reply 1): So AZ, which is a very profitable airline, dedicated one of its airplanes (they have a lot unused) as a private airline to a single person.
I hope the Vatican paid the ticket, but, I donno why, I don't think they paid something....
If it serves as consolation, usually the Pope only flies one-way on AZ and then returns on the carrier of the country he visited.
Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1815 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2638 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter): Did B. XVI fly on one of the Alitalia jets or did he take one of the aircrafts from the new Vatican charter airline?
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10350 posts, RR: 40 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2457 times:
Pope Benedikt XVI is scheduled to go to Sydney, Australia some time next Summer for the World Youth Day event.
I wonder if they will take him back to Rome on a Qantas A380. Will Qantas have their A380s delivered by then? I think World Youth Day will be about the end of July 2008.
So the way things are going it would be AZ flying him to Australia and QF flying him back. I have no idea if AZ usually does flights to Sydney or not maybe with B-744s? It would be nice if the Pope could fly on a A380.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
Aleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 34 Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2400 times:
Well, as far as I know, Pope uses Alitalia from Italy and other carriers on return flight. I think the only expetion was a trip to Cuba when Pope John Paul II flew on Alitalia MD-11 in both directions.
Airblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
For his summer vacations on Italian Alps during 2005 and 2006 he used for the domestic sector Rome-Aosta-Rome the small Italian carrier Air Vallee on Dornier 328Jet.
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