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SQ- Is SYD A Larger Market Than LHR And LAX?  
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

1-Why was SYD chosen instead of LHR or LAX for 1st A380 rev. flight??? Is SYD their largest market?? Just curiosity, nothing else...

2- Where will SQ send the A380 after SYD, I assume LHR or LAX???


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User currently offlineAndrew From Singapore, joined Dec 1999, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

With only 1 plane in the fleet, you can't offer a daily A380 service to London as the flight time for the return journey SIN-LHR itself would take approximately 26 hours. And that excludes transit time.

With SIN-SYD it's possible as each sector is only about 7 hours either way. Plenty of time to turn her around within 24 hours.

You can be sure that SQ would want to put the A380 on the SIN-LHR route as soon as they can, to offer passengers on the Kangaroo Route an A380 all the way from Australia to the UK. Way before QF gets their aircraft.

User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Yes, I thought that they are putting her on the SYD runs as the crews grow accustomed to the plane, but I thought it was a rather long route to start up with. I think when JL received their first B744, they flew her to SEL (GIM) since that was before ICN opened up. I think NH did something similar for the crew to get accustomed to the plane.

I find the seven hours, a rather long trip!!!


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 2):
I find the seven hours, a rather long trip!!!

So that's why LAX wasn't considered???

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 2):
I find the seven hours, a rather long trip!!!

So that's why LAX wasn't considered???

There is a stop enroute to lax.... round trip, that's a long flight... 2 aircraft are very much needed there unless you want to work in one A380 and a 744... but that's awkward.


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting Juventus (Thread starter):
1-Why was SYD chosen instead of LHR or LAX for 1st A380 rev. flight???

One airplane, the ability to fly the aircraft to SYD and back in one 24 hour period, and SQ's desire to keep its first A380 ""in the neighborhood"" during its initial break in period. All new airliners have issues when they are introduced, especially an airplane like the A380 which is larger than anything currently hauling pax and introduces many new systems....thus, SQ can better handle the isses that certainly will arrise in the first months of A380 operations by keeping the airplane in the region and being able to service/study the airplane at its SIN base on a daily basis.

Quoting Juventus (Thread starter):
Is SYD their largest market??

Nope, but its a large market than can support the A380, SQ operates multiple 744/777 flights on this route at the moment.

User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
Nope, but its a large market than can support the A380, SQ operates multiple 744/777 flights on this route at the moment.

BTW, how is SQ refitting SIN-SYD frequencies after A380?


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 6):

BTW, how is SQ refitting SIN-SYD frequencies after A380?

No frequency changes at the outset.....the A380 will replace one turn on the SIN-SYD route previously opeated by a 744.

[Edited 2007-09-07 21:05:12]

User currently offlineB747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16575 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 7):
No frequency changes at the outset.....the A380 will replace one turn on the SIN-SYD route previously opeated by a 744.

So it will only be more seats available in this route, right. So it will be A380, B744s and B777s on the SIN-SYD-SIN market.


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User currently offlineKFly From Australia, joined May 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):
So it will only be more seats available in this route, right. So it will be A380, B744s and B777s on the SIN-SYD-SIN market.

No 777 between SIN and SYD. All 3 daily flights are with 744s


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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5434 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
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As pointed out earlier in the thread, the ability to do a daily service with one aircraft, train crews and iron out bugs while resonably close to home are all factors.

But there is one overiding factor that put a daily SYD service ahead of say a HKG, BKK etc.

That would be the ability to rub Qantas' nose in the fact that they are operating A380 and QF are not.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Quoting KFly (Reply 9):
No 777 between SIN and SYD. All 3 daily flights are with 744s

Let us not forget that SQ are taking delivery of new 777-300ERs and retiring 747-400s.

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
That would be the ability to rub Qantas' nose in the fact that they are operating A380 and QF are not.

That is retaliation for denying SQ SIN-SYD-LAX rights despite a deal worked out several years ago to do so. This has already been discussed to death, so search the archives if you want to know more.

User currently offlineSydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 2377 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
That would be the ability to rub Qantas' nose in the fact that they are operating A380 and QF are not.

Not to mention the fact that the Premium Class experience on the SQ A380 will be better than anything currently operating the Kangaroo Route. On an overnight sector from Singapore that gives SQ a nice advantage that alot of higher yielding passengers would want to try out.

User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 10):
That would be the ability to rub Qantas' nose in the fact that they are operating A380 and QF are not

Well maybe??? But wouldn't ICN or PEK be other possibilities as well? KE confirmed their orders didn't they? And CA and the others are listed as candidates for ordering the A380. And ICN and the others such as PEK or PVG would fit the list of keeping it close to home.


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