AirAmericaC46 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 590 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14090 times:
From my understanding: there are only 3 types of turbulence: mild, moderate and severe. MILD is when it feels like you are on a car travelling on a rough road or on rolling hills and humps MODERATE means you are experiencing a fall like on a roller coaster ride or when you're away from the fulcrum (wings) at the back or front and the plane sways up and down like seesaw or sideways making lot of people vomit, then SEVERE is when you are not wearing a seatbelt and you thrown to the ceiling (G-force) and people will be obviously screaming!! Corrections to my comments appreciated.
Now here's another question: What is your most turbulent flight ever?-----I need the type of aircraft, airline, routing and stage of flight you are in during the turbulence.
Another question: Have you noticed more turbulences this decade (global warming?) compared to 2 decades ago?
AA767LOVER From Guatemala, joined Aug 2007, 395 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14072 times:
If you look at yahoo canada webpage, there was a bizarre incident on Westjet from YYC-YHZ. Read up on it. Then you folks decide on the grade of turbulence. I've had a rather rocky turbulence in which the plane dropped some hundred feet, or could have been more. I can't remember too much. Just remember that it was on CP from YVR-YYC in 1990. The last really rocky one before that was on an AC DC-9 from YYZ-YYT (1985).
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 10707 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 14018 times:
Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Thread starter): From my understanding: there are only 3 types of turbulence: mild, moderate and severe.
FAA definitions of turbulence intensity as follows. There are more than 3.
Light Chop. Slight, rapid, and somewhat rhythmic bumpiness without appreciable changes in altitude or attitude.
Light Turbulence. Slight, erratic changes in altitude and/or attitude. Occupants may feel a slight strain against seatbelts. Unsecured objects may be displaced slightly. Food service may be conducted and little to no difficulty is encountered in walking.
Moderate Chop. Rapid bumps or jolts without appreciable changes in aircraft altitude or attitude.
Moderate Turbulence. Changes in altitude and/or attitude occur but the aircraft remains in positive control at all times. It usually causes variations in indicated airspeed. Occupants feel definite strain against seatbelts. Unsecured objects are dislodged. Food service and walking are difficult.
Severe. Large, abrupt changes in altitude and/or attitude. Usually causes large variations in indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be momentarily out of control. Occupants are forced violently against seatbelts. Unsecured objects are tossed about. Food service and walking are impossible.
Extreme. Aircraft is violently tossed about and is practically impossible to control. May cause structural damage.
777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 9848 posts, RR: 23 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13985 times:
From AirAmericaC46s understanding of turbulance, worst I've been in was moderate. Last month on the 20th on an AirTran flight from DTW-ATL on a B717. Just after take off from DTW, there was tunder and lightning and we basically had to fly throu it. The aircraft was certainly getting throwen about with small drops in alititude. Another less severe turbulance was on an NZ flight from MEL-AKL on an A320 in August 2005. The aircraft was still getting throwen about with slightly less drops in altitude, but they were still noticable
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Mop357 From United States, joined Mar 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13964 times:
I was on an AA 752 flying from KIN to JFK. The date was 12/31/04. We took off from Jamaica, flew over Cuba and then continued north. Then I remember the airplane started to shake slightly. Then it got worst to the point where it felt like something was physically outside hitting the plane. I would say the turbulence ranged from Moderate to Severe. Then when I thought it could not get any worst, the airplane took a dip. I don't know how much we fell but it did not feel good. I remember the pilot turned up the engines and even changed altitude. Nothing seemed to worked though. At that time I did not know too much about airplanes as to how much turbulence they can take as I do now, so that flight scared the crap out of me. It kept me from flying for a few months.
I cannot remember flights from last decade too well.
Another question: Do you think turbulance is worst in the Winter or Summer?
Iaddca From United States, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13915 times:
IAD-OAK on B6 in March 2006, had to fly through t-storms over the Detroit area. Felt like the plane was out of control, as if it were fishtailing down an steep, icy hill. But being on B6, I checked the map and the weather channel on LiveTV, and saw that the western edge of the cloud cover was right around Grand Rapids, and that the weather all the way from Milwaukee to San Fran was clear, so I just kept reading my book calmly while a few pax let out some pretty loud yells.
WhatUsaid From United States, joined Feb 2007, 384 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13892 times:
On Golden West, FAT-TVL on a Dash 7. When ceiling panels fall....it's bad. A number of people were slammed against windows, etc... Wasn't fun. Also explains why TVL is a tough one for airline service.
ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1822 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13882 times:
Quoting Mop357 (Reply 4): Do you think turbulance is worst in the Winter or Summer?
Usually winter due to the higher winds which usually effect the turbulance.
Most turbulence I have ever encountered was in a C152, I was landing in YLW with a 25ish kt x wind component, winds where 35G45KT I believe it was... GFA's said there was Moderate to Severe Turbulence all around the mountains. There were only two light a/c to fly that day me and one of my flight instructors who was supposed to fly to YKA but only made it 10 minutes north before calling it quits, students where feeling ill. I was sitting on the ramp right on the approach to 16 for those of you familiar with YLW and saw a Pilatus struggle to get it down. I thought it looked like a fun day to go flying. After seeing a WS 737-700 and an AC A319 have very interesting approaches I knew I had to go up. When I called GND to request my taxi he repeated GONF just confirm you want to taxi out for circuits with wind XXXXX, I said affirm thats the reason I am coming out, he replied well some people like to have fun... Long story short after my 4th circuit I got a call from TWR asking me to come down because the CFI came in and was wondering what the hell one of his a/c where doing, doing circuits. Oh well all I have to say was that was the best circuits I have ever done, if you feel comfortable, and I do mean comfortable, do try and push yourself as you will learn quite alot by doing so. Disclaimer- If you do not feel comfortable doing so, stay on the ground.
JerseyGuy From United States, joined Oct 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13872 times:
Based on the OPs Defination, I would say I experienced moderate turbulence on landing on B6 102 OAK-JFK (3/5/07 if anyone else was on that flight) that was due to high winds. I was a bit nauseous, not so much that I thought I'd throw up but still. We were being bounced around good, and I couldn't have been more happy to land.
To me that looks like Moderate Turbulence as far as what the actual video shows.
From Viscount754: Moderate Turbulence. Changes in altitude and/or attitude occur but the aircraft remains in positive control at all times. It usually causes variations in indicated airspeed. Occupants feel definite strain against seatbelts. Unsecured objects are dislodged. Food service and walking are difficult.
Severe: Large, abrupt changes in altitude and/or attitude. Usually causes large variations in indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be momentarily out of control. Occupants are forced violently against seatbelts. Unsecured objects are tossed about. Food service and walking are impossible.
That is my personal opinion from watching that video, who knows what happened before it was taken however.
C680 From United States, joined Apr 2005, 374 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13827 times:
An very experienced senior capt. once told me that, "It aint' Severe until you hit your head - HARD!"
Severe means the plane is just on the verge of being out of control. That means drink carts are going in the air, and anyone not wearing a seatbelt just became the feathers of a sorority girl pillow fight.
Very few people have been in severe turbulence - but I do believe a lot of people *think* they have been in severe.
Another common statement from passengers is: "We dropped at least 500 feet!" Doubtful. Folks 500 feet is 50 story building. Thats more than a few seconds of freefall, or if you're in a plane, being plastered to the ceiling for a few seconds. Not many people survive jumping off a 50 story building. Now you may have dropped 10 feet very, very quickly - I believe that -and it will feel like you dropped 500 feet, but unless you are looking at an altimeter, you really have no way of knowing.
LY204 From United States, joined Aug 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13813 times:
Quoting C680 (Reply 11): Very few people have been in severe turbulence - but I do believe a lot of people *think* they have been in severe.
Interesting...based on your description, I suspect that I have been in moderate turbulence -- in over the 300+ flights that I have been on, however, this by far was the scariest.
In July 1990, I was on an El Al 747-200 from Montreal to Tel Aviv...shortly after takeoff, the pilot very calmly indicated that we "might hit a little bit of turbulence." About an hour further into the flight, the plane started to shake violently, the plane then dropped for what felt like an eternity (probably for about 10 seconds)...people were screaming at the top of their lungs. Overhead compartments opened up and bags started to fall into the aisles...and people were throwing up left and right.
The turbulence subsided in about an hour (the worst of it probably was for only about 10 or 15 minutes), but it was a flight I will never forget...
Drewwright From United States, joined May 2001, 613 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13748 times:
Just finished a trip that hit severe turbulence. DFW-JFK on the 5th. The turbulence was for the most part moderate at first. Everybody was seated no big deal. We were at 38k when we went through the leading edge of a thunderstorm overhang (Anvil). The capt couldnt see it until it was too late. I was sitting in row 18 and the plane dropped and banked 45 degrees. The other passengers were doing the typical ohhhh awwwee uhhhh woooowwws.. Kinda scary to hear it actually. When all was said and done, both galleys had coffee on the ceiling and a unflushed toilet had urine on the floor and walls.. It only lasted about 30 seconds but it was pretty intense. I was watching the wings being warp from the wind gusts myself. The strangest part was you would hear the wind change speed in the cabin as we passed though different layers. Sounded like a whoosh in the up and downdrafts.
Jetjeanes From United States, joined Oct 2004, 1285 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 13731 times:
In November of 1972 we were enroute from Mem to Mia,,, with stops in Bhm and Mco. We were unaware of the Bhm stop, But those 2 singers Donny and Marie Osmond and a woman were the ony ones to get on, No jetways.
about 15 minutes after take off the captn said he was going to turn back north because of bad weather and go around the front and asked us to fasten our seat belts, We were getting a pretty good chop anyway, and Im sure he was hand flying at this point the plane banked right then left and i could tell the nose was downward.
Then for about 2 or 3 seconds My hands and drink started a floating type motion going upward. Then bam everthing that wasnt tied slamed down on the floor, drinks, and Bags were falling on passengers, I cant remember but the overhead bins on those first dc-9s i dont think had doors on them.The engines would power up and go back down constantly..We were up and down for a good 20 minutes,and the captn came on and apoligized when it smoothed out,,
But i had looked up once and that donny osmond was sqeeling like little girl.. We landed at the old Mco and hundreds of
fans were out on the roof of the airport of this army base waveing at him and her and he was just smileing,,, I wish those fans had seen him 30 minutes earlier...lol
Both the captn and Cp got off and did a walk around and we could see them checking for wing damage and inspecting
it closly I guess from maybe hail??
LAXdude1023 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 4389 posts, RR: 22 Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 13391 times:
Ive had severe turbulence once out of approx. 400,000 miles of flying. The only way I know it was severe is because the pilot told me at the end of the flight that it was. I suppose that he would know because he said that in 30 years of flying it was the worst he had encountered. It was a horrible experiance. The plane felt like it was on its side at one point. Not sure if it really was, but it sure felt like it. It lasted 5 min.
Mop357 From United States, joined Mar 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 13376 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 18): Ive had severe turbulence once out of approx. 400,000 miles of flying. The only way I know it was severe is because the pilot told me at the end of the flight that it was. I suppose that he would know because he said that in 30 years of flying it was the worst he had encountered. It was a horrible experiance. The plane felt like it was on its side at one point. Not sure if it really was, but it sure felt like it. It lasted 5 min.
Snaiks From Panama, joined Mar 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12792 times:
Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Thread starter): here's another question: What is your most turbulent flight ever?-----I need the type of aircraft, airline, routing and stage of flight you are in during the turbulence.
LAXdude1023 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 4389 posts, RR: 22 Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12779 times:
777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1847 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12723 times:
Quoting C680 (Reply 11): Now you may have dropped 10 feet very, very quickly - I believe that -and it will feel like you dropped 500 feet, but unless you are looking at an altimeter, you really have no way of knowing.
I had the "pleasure" of riding through some mountain wave on 777 (UA1 ORD-HNL) in the summer of 2005. I was fortunate enough to be listening to Channel 9 and overheard a couple of neighboring a/c querying Denver Center about reports of wave. Not more than a minute later, I noticed the subtle motion and quickly encouraged Mrs.777fan to get back to her seat from a trip to the lavatory. She sat down, buckled in just as the seat belt sign illumated. Without warning (is there ever a real warning?!) the rear of the plane pushed upward before the "bottom fell out", prompting screams from most of the passengers, not to mention a "what the f***" from a FA that was trying to navigate the aisle back to his seat! Our captain quickly radio'd to Denver Center and reported a "400 foot vertical deviation". Thankfully, that was all that Mother Nature had cooked up for us on that flight.
The worst turbulence I've ever endured was on a 763 (AC34 SYD-HNL) last November. Nine hours of white knuckle flying, practically no service (too dangerous), brought on by a frontal system over eastern Australia, t-storm buildup in the ITCZ and a dip in the jet stream that more or less sat on top of our entire flight route. We tried everything from 31K-40K feet, but were met with at least moderate turbulence and chop for the entire flight. I had the "pleasure" of sitting in the second to last row of Y class (funny, because we booked C class tickets through UA but that's another story) and could actually see the fuselage flexing for most of the fflight. People were getting sick left and right, and bins popped open on a couple of occasions but it's not like you can deviate or divert when transitting the Pacific (5,000+nm) in a 763. To their credit, the flight deck tried everything and kept the pax informed of what was going on and what to expect. They subsequently apologized for the experience while we taxiied to the gate in HNL.
Quoting Drewwright (Reply 13): The strangest part was you would hear the wind change speed in the cabin as we passed though different layers. Sounded like a whoosh in the up and downdrafts.
Totally know what you're talking about - the flight above had about five hours of that.
777fan
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SkyTaxi From United States, joined Jun 2006, 140 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12668 times:
I just experienced my worst turbulence last Wednesday, coming back from Puerto Vallarta heading to San Francisco, the pilot had to divert the flight around Hurricane Henriette, it felt as though he flew right through it. When the lightening hit the plane (737-900) that's when my wife became terrified. The plane dropped 500 ft, just kidding, more like 10 -20 ft. several times.
It lasted for 80 miles or about 7 minutes. Rates slightly above moderate, for me.
Lostmoon744 From Philippines, joined Aug 2006, 156 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12380 times:
Some time in the 1990s, a CO 747 (if memory serves) experienced some sever turbulence that it actually killed someone. I believe it was en route to/from Narita. The person killed did not have her seatbelt on and was killed during the event. The plane diverted because of this.
LY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 1632 posts, RR: 3 Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12250 times:
My most turbulent flight ever was on an AF A343 from MIA to CDG in April 1995. It was absolutely awful during two hours. After take off from MIA, there was some light turbulence but still it was OK. Then, the captain changed altitude, we flew at only 7700 meters, and the turbulence became more and more important, until we hit two severe chops, I thought the plane was going to crash, I fainted... My father, who is a doctor put my legs in the upright position and gave me some Coke...just awful!!! I wasn't the only one who felt bad, my sister and other people on the plane were crying, others thought the plane was just about to crash.
Since that day, I am really afraid of turbulence...
26 LGAtoIND: It was a UA 747, and I believe it was going HNL-NRT.
27 777fan: Other way around (NRT-HNL): http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...208X09291&ntsbno=DCA98MA015&akey=1 777fan
28 Fsnuffer: I forget the exact year, I think Oct 29th 1995, but I was on a United 747 from Narita to Singapore when two typhoons were merging over the Philippines
29 MainMAN: The official definition of 'severe' is when you lose your beer. Now that is severe, and I would definately be screaming. Touch wood, I've never had a
30 ReverseThrust: I have to lots of turbluence which I would class as moderate. Both occured on an A321 Aircraft. 1. Flight Lufthansa LH4598 MUC-LHR May 2002. Seat 35F
31 BCA2005: Virgin Atlantic LHR-DEL VS 300 12 October 2006. Airbus A340-300. About an hour from landing into Delhi (I guess somewhere around the Himalayas), ther
32 Meister808: I was checking out Pilot Reports prior to going flying a few years back and ran across a PIREP of Extreme turbulence from a B737 somewhere in Arizona,
33 Pumaknight: Without a doubt the worst flight I have ever ahd was a 737-700 Easy Jet flight from Belfast, Northern Ireland to London Luton. Back in late 2006, ther
34 Comorin: You shouldn't be because its very unlikely you will ever experience it again in your lifetime - remember most people will never even experience moder
35 Aviateur: When it comes to pilot reports, turbulence is identified as light, moderate, severe or extreme. The FAA's Aeronautical Information Manual provides spe
36 Mark5388916: 2 flights in my memory stick out as turbulent. 1 at least moderate the other one was just odd. Flight 1, modertate turbulencin in an AA B722 out of MS
37 777fan: Totally not true. Most FFs experience will or have experienced moderate turbulence - it's bound to happen any time you transit a major body of water
38 LASOctoberB6: i was on America West from LAS-PHX at around 7am 10/3/05 and just after takeoff from 19L, we hit around mod-sev turbulance with the plane swaying side
39 Archie: I had an insturctor one time who said it like this: Light: when things shake, but don´t really move around Moderate: Things start moving around a bit
40 Comorin: Beg to differ - Cabin Crew yes, but in my 57 years of flying, from DC3s across Burma to a transatlantic hop every 6 weeks, the most I have experience
41 KELPkid: My flight instructor's (from getting my PPL) Cessna 172 had a nice indentation in the headliner above the back seat from a turbulence encounter...fro
42 KPDX: Holy F. Last night (night flight) I was flew DEN-PDX on a Frontier A319. And over Eastern Oregon and Western Idaho, I have never felt so much bumpynes
43 C680: Mountain wave is another subject. In a wave, the aircraft can encounter a large mass of air rising (or descending) over a large area. This requires a
44 KPDX: Now to respond to my own post, heres the video of some of the turbulence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av4iJkNRO20 And the description from the vid
45 Jkj777: LAX-ATL on 2 occassions......5/12/2005.......3/25/2007......On both occassions, the entire flight was rocky. Over Central Arizona, we had to descend u
46 Mop357: I think you mean to say severe turbulance. I would expect anyone who takes a few flights a year to encounter moderate turbulance. Excellent post. Me
47 Maverick623: My worst encounter with turbulence was accidentally flying over a local power plant in a Cessna 180... Needless to say I had to take a tylenol after l
48 Paulc: The worst turbulence I have experienced was on an Aerolineas Argentinas flight from Paraguay to Buenos Aries in 1996. The flight was fine up until top
49 Tomaeroeng: The max crosswind component for landing a C152 is 16 knots, i got the manual in front of me. In my eyes this is exactly the behaviour a pilote should
50 ZKNBX: Try landing in Wellington (NZ) in the Spring in a howling Northerly. A frequent occurence. Worst turbulence is when it is both side to side and up and
51 Allrite: I wish that it were possible to delay your flight (ie transfer to a later flight) based upon the likelihood of encountering turbulence on a flight at
52 Csavel: I would think because of summer thunderstorms summer could be worse. True you can usually maneuver around them, but if you have huge squall lines of
53 Litz: I've only really experienced two fairly severe turbulence episodes ... and on both I used the "Is the FA worried" method of determining severity. On o
54 Airfoilsguy: The below is severe turbulence. The aircraft, trailing white vapor, then suddenly lost altitude over the Takigahara area, and parts of the aircraft be
55 Ncelhr: The very fact a flight attendant was able to stand up doesn't make it "pretty bad turbulence" As others have already said, passengers often make it s
56 KPDX: Ok, well Ive rarely ever been through pretty bad turbulence, just some slight bumps here and there. But from what I can tell it was pretty rough also
57 Torch23: My ex-wife an I were on a UA flight from Seattle to Tokyo-Narita back in early 2003. About two hours from Narita we encountered moderatle turbulence t
58 ArcrftLvr: I was flying from DFW-MIA on an AA 738 when we reached the Gulf and started hitting some light chop that quickly turned into moderate turbulence. The
59 ArcrftLvr: I was flying from DFW-MIA on an AA 738 when we reached the Gulf and started hitting some light chop that quickly turned into moderate turbulence. The
60 UAL777: Because it was blinding him. I do it all the time in night IMC.
61 EWRCabincrew: What I count for severe is when you see the cabin from the ceiling. I was unfortunate enough to experience this twice. I hope never again. Your first
62 BlueSkys: I've been up in a C-152 with 28G39KT light windshear conditions. It was with my instructor (a really fun guy) and we flipped a coin if we should go o
63 KPDX: Oh I know, like I said in my previous post: Once again, I know. Btw, what you said it kinda the same thing as falling. She's trying to keep her balan
64 ArcrftLvr: Then why would the pilot have turned on the landing lights to begin with? One piece of the story that I failed to include was that we were at cruisin
65 EBGflyer: In Late November 2002 me and my friend flew to Brazil. We were on two different flights. Their flight experienced what you call severe turbulence. Par
66 Airfoilsguy: Some times pilots will put on the lights at cruising altitude if another plane is in the area. Flights that cross the Atlantic do this alot.
67 AirAmericaC46: Thanks for all the interesting and informative anectodes. My other question is----What are the airliner crashes that happened during a severe or extre
68 ImperialEagle: Summer (of '73?) NA, B721, MCO-MIA Took off right into a typical Florida late afternoon thunderstorm (right behind an EA B721) flew into a "wall of wa
69 Dragon6172: Probably was not the landing light, but the ice lights. Aircraft have lights that shine out onto the wings so the pilots can look and see if there is
70 Astuteman: Just to be different.... Travelling RTW about 4 years ago involved:- MAN-CDG on AF A320 CDG - GIG on AF 777 GIG-SCL on LAN 767 SCL - AKL on LAN A340
71 Allrite: I'm not a pilot, but on a recent flight back from KIX to SYD (A332) I noticed that the pilots switched the powerful forward lights on several times d
72 Flynavy: In our flight simulators, severe turbulence can be reproduced extremely well. When set to "severe thunderstorm" setting, even the flight directors hav
73 UAEflyer: Honeslty, i'm a person who had a very bad flight with Emirates on the way from SIN >> DXB. I felt that it was my last day. To me the turbulance is whe
74 Flynavy: Weather creates turbulence, not an aircraft. Therefore, to say the Concorde was turbulence prone would be foolish. Certainly, at the altitudes she cr
76 ArcrftLvr: Is it likely that ice would build up in a mid-summer t-storm? It seems the rain from the storm would prevent any ice from accumulating anyway... My i
77 LAXdude1023: I think that Turbulence (at least really bad turbulence) is becoming more rare. Not because the air is becoming smoother, but because new planes can
78 Dragon6172: At the right altitude, I believe you can having icing anytime of the year. Its late summer now, and there are some icing conditions on NOAA's aviatio
79 Nucsh: Sounds like you're the kind of student who will be confident until something structural breaks.
80 Therock401: Has anyone else had a rough approach into ATL when landing west? In March of 2005, I was on a NW A319 MSP-ATL landing on 27L, and it was a very choppy
81 Jimbobjoe: I have been told, rightly or wrongly, that the main reason other aircraft don't go to the 60,000 ft altitude is because it requires one of the crew t
82 ArcrftLvr: I thought it had to do with structural integrity of the airframe at that altitude?
83 C680: No, one crewmember must be on Ox above FL410 (See FAR § 91.211 Supplemental oxygen.) The reason other aircraft dont go to FL600 is because most are
84 Jimbobjoe: What is it that keeps other aircraft from having the capability to fly that high?
85 ImperialEagle: Wow! There have been plenty! (Would have to research the fifties as they had their share back in the piston days.) Off the top-of-my-head theres the
86 777fan: Again, it's bound to happen, not guaranteed! Count your lucky stars. In my (guesstimate) 2+ million miles of flying, I've found that flights across t
87 UAEflyer: But what is that thing called Air-Pocket ?? i heard that it's the worst that you ever can have
88 ImperialEagle: Its like hitting a "hole-in-the-road" although instead it's in the air. A jet is usually going so fast it just slams right through these------ BAM an
89 Viscount724: "Air pocket" is a misleading term. What you are experiencing when an aircraft makes sudden moves down (or up) are wind gusts but in a vertical rather
90 Halophila: Worst turbulence for me was on a flight from CDG to Montpellier back in December 1993 on board an Air Inter A320-100. That morning the winds were very
91 UN_B732: KPDX, maybe the video isn't very indicative, but that seems like light chop to me, if that. The worst I've had was moderate, flying SVO-JFK on a SU 76
92 AA777: I'm pretty lucky as I've never experienced anything terrifying on a plane. My flight to Paris this summer (IAD-CDG on an AF 772) was a little interest
93 Tomaeroeng: Max Crosswind component is there for your insurance to tell if you were flying your 152 in legal or illegal conditions. If your instructor lets you l
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