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Speculation In News Article DL My Be Looking At B6  
User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8857 times:

There was an article in the Salt Lake Tribune yesterday stating that Sach -Goldman had indicated DL was interested
in B6. The complete article is here.

http://www.sltrib.com//ci_6838745?IA...arch-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com

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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8637 times:

Speculation concerning a possible Delta/JetBlue combination has been discussed before: could it make sense?

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11387 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8626 times:

Will this insanity never end?

I sincerely hope that Delta's management team -- which as shown amazing forethought and innovation in the last few years -- doesn't seriously entertain this idiocy. Delta merging with JetBlue makes about as much sense as Dougie over at USAirways taking over Delta. Their corporate cultures and fleets are so incredibly different that it would completely mitigate any financial benefit from the transaction. I'd like to see Delta explain to their pilots how they plan to integrate an incredibly-junior, incredibly low-paid (by industry standards), non-union pilot group into the seniority list. I'd also like to see what they would plan to do with the clusterf*ck that JFK is becoming for both airlines: JetBlue is doing something about it, and has a beautiful new terminal opening next year. Delta is still stuck in 1971 over at T2/T3, on the complete opposite end of the airport from JetBlue's new T5/T6 -- and neither T2/T3 or T5/T6 can handle both airline's JFK operations.

There are definitely mergers and/or some asset swaps/financial transactions among U.S. carriers that make sense in this day and age, but Delta-JetBlue is definitely not one of them in my opinion.


User currently offlineJFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8510 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
I sincerely hope that Delta's management team -- which as shown amazing forethought and innovation in the last few years -- doesn't seriously entertain this idiocy. Delta merging with JetBlue makes about as much sense as Dougie over at USAirways taking over Delta. Their corporate cultures and fleets are so incredibly different that it would completely mitigate any financial benefit from the transaction. I'd like to see Delta explain to their pilots how they plan to integrate an incredibly-junior, incredibly low-paid (by industry standards), non-union pilot group into the seniority list. I'd also like to see what they would plan to do with the clusterf*ck that JFK is becoming for both airlines: JetBlue is doing something about it, and has a beautiful new terminal opening next year. Delta is still stuck in 1971 over at T2/T3, on the complete opposite end of the airport from JetBlue's new T5/T6 -- and neither T2/T3 or T5/T6 can handle both airline's JFK operations.

I would have to disagree with you totally. Here it goes....JetBlue is worth in the range of 2.3 Billion dollars.
1- A New terminal in JFK will cost around? Delta is in trouble with their terminal in JFK because they do not have to build a new terminal at JFK and they cannot cease any operations as JFK is a money maker for them.

2-Delta purchases JetBlue and automatically takes out their number one direct competitior on the Domestic market.

3-The Planes Delta has quite a large fleet of domestic airplanes that will have to be replaced in the near future. If Delta would purchase JetBlue they can use the existing 100 or so A320s for the time being and place an order for 200 or so 737, Boeing would love this project as it would be taking away one of AIRBUS top top customers. As Boeing currently still owns I believe around 3% of Delta this would be totally to their interest.

Basically, If Delta would actually purchase JetBlue, They will automatically be making money on the project, Instead of Investing in it.

Are JetBlues planes all bought? If so they should be worth around $10'000'000 each at least


User currently offlineDelta4eva From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8413 times:

I think that this would be an excellent combination. It would allow DL to obtain the operations in JFK that they would like. It would also go over well with Delta's pilot union because most of the pilots at B6 would be junior to DL pilots. In addition, it would be an easier merger than say DL/NW or DL/UA.


FLY DELTA JETS
User currently offlineIaddca From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8379 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
Will this insanity never end?

They'd be taking them over to kill them, it'd be a hostile offer.

B6 has crushed DL in NY, and DL has tried everything - creating Song, using higher capacity 757s on B6 routes, reconsidering IFE strategy, and nothing has worked. But now that post chapter 11 DL has a stock with a tiny bit of value, they think they can kill B6 with that.

Even if they go public with this, it won't close.


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4863 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8349 times:
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Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):

B6 has crushed DL in NY, and DL has tried everything - creating Song, using higher capacity 757s on B6 routes, reconsidering IFE strategy, and nothing has worked

Proof please.....and you have the numbers that show that DL's JFK in the last year is being 'crushed' by B6??


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11387 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8338 times:

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
They'd be taking them over to kill them, it'd be a hostile offer.

B6 has crushed DL in NY, and DL has tried everything - creating Song, using higher capacity 757s on B6 routes, reconsidering IFE strategy, and nothing has worked. But now that post chapter 11 DL has a stock with a tiny bit of value, they think they can kill B6 with that.

Exactly. Delta has tried everything to be competitive with JetBlue out of JFK/New York and Florida, and it hasn't worked. JetBlue's product is really, really good, and it doesn't matter how many lime green 757s you add a few seats to, it's not going to change that.

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
Even if they go public with this, it won't close.

I concur completely. I can't wait to see what Mr. Never-Met-A-Camera-He-Didn't Like Chucky Schumer has to say about this. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to watch his baby get gobbled up by Delta.


User currently offlineFanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 8255 times:

Taking out JetBlue would certainly help things at JFK. I know they're one of the top carriers in terms of movements at the airport, and in terms of passengers carried. I'm guessing they could cut at least 1/3 of B6's flights out of JFK, helping delays. And those A320s would sure look nice with F class replacing those MD-88s....lol.

But seriously, this could happen. The new DL has a much better reputation in the banking industry than the pre-bankruptcy DL. They could certainly get the funding for this. Unfortunately the people running the banks aren't big JetBlue fans.... They're not the ones flying B6.

Read that article again. Sounds like another bad storm is brewing at JFK...

[Edited 2007-09-11 15:44:12]


"FLY DELTA JETS"
User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 3994 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 8195 times:

And what would the new company be called? JetBlue?

User currently offlineAlphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 937 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8147 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
I'd like to see Delta explain to their pilots how they plan to integrate an incredibly-junior, incredibly low-paid (by industry standards), non-union pilot group into the seniority list.

Exactly why this deal will never happen.



"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
User currently offlineExusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

Quoting Alphascan (Reply 10):

How would DL pilots integrate the B6 pilot ranks onto the seniority list? Very easily, in fact you probably have the tool necessary to integrate the seniority list right on your desk, it's called a stapler..............Put 'em all right on the bottom of the list.

Attributes of this merger:
1) New terminal in JFK. Also creates an instant hub for DL, effectively giving them control of JFK. Catapults DL to #1 in the NY market when combined with Shuttle/LGA ops/JFK Int'l and domestic portfolio.
2) Eliminate a Florida competitor and putting DL #1 in most Florida cities with the exception of MIA.
3) A-320's and E190's become the replacement vehicles for DL MD-88's. Eventually replace A-320's and 757's with Boeing RS product.
4) Move B6 LGB capacity to LAX. Instant hub in LAX for trans-pac and select Europe and South American markets.
5) Non union workforce at B6 makes it an attractive candidate, much more attractive than another partner with entrenched unions.
6) DL board just issued a statement affirming the commitment of management and the DL board to fairness in seniority protection in the event of a buyout or merger. This was just released yesterday to the rank and file at DL. Curious timing....
7) E-190 product in DL family. DL has been seeking a 100 seat jet option. Payrates already in place on the DALPA contract. Very cheap payrates.
8) Solidifies BOS presence. Eliminates a competitor on the BOS/NYC/DC shuttle sectors.
9) Decent route portfolio from JFK to the Caribbean when combined with DL ops.
10) Enables DL maintenence to market overhauls for A320 and E170/190 families.


User currently offlineSkyyMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8024 times:

This might not even pass DOJ scrutiny anyway given the monopoly it would create at JFK and along much of the east coast. I don't think we have to worry about this ever happening, regardless of which side you are on.

User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1089 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7978 times:

I'd hate to see B6 gobbled up by DL. It's well known on this board that I'm an FL cheerleader -- and obviously getting rid of B6 would help FL -- but I'd hate to see B6 disappear. They have a very unique product -- I personally love the legroom on the A320s -- and a great corporate personality. It's unfortunate that other airlines including FL don't follow many of B6's innovations and best practices. I'd much rather see one or more of the legacies fold that see any of the four main LCCs (WN, FL, B6, F9) gobbled up. Now, NK....good riddance to them. And before I get jumped on for expressing this opinion, I never wanted YX to disappear; I just doubted their ability to sustain themselves as a stand-alone company.


TLH
User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7880 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Exactly. Delta has tried everything to be competitive with JetBlue out of JFK/New York and Florida, and it hasn't worked. JetBlue's product is really, really good, and it doesn't matter how many lime green 757s you add a few seats to, it's not going to change that.

That is the problem... jetblue has it's quirks, but at the end of the day delta cannot compete with the jetblue product. Jetblue seems sincere to make its customers happy which is shocking in an industry which routinely strands, spits on, and scolds passengers while asking them to fly again.

Once jetblue leaves the scene we no longer have a "new york airline", or any companies in the country that try to bring excellent service at good value. The plus about jetblue leaving is that the significant drop in operations would alleviate delays at JFK... plus our "southern belle" gets a brand spanking new terminal at JFK complete with customs.

Perhaps Berger was put in to make the airline "sell-able"? If that is so, what a shame! The only "real" airline America has ever had goes under after 7 short years... only to be gobbled up by one of the 5 leading contenders for airline mediocrity.

[Edited 2007-09-11 17:59:18]


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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6696 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7641 times:

Quoting SkyyMaster (Reply 12):
This might not even pass DOJ scrutiny anyway given the monopoly it would create at JFK

What monopoly? AA would still be a very solid second at JFK, and in the NYC market as a whole, CO would be a close second to a hypothetical combined DL/B6. They'd have just over a quarter of the NYC market (CO has just slightly under 25% of the market).

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
They'd be taking them over to kill them, it'd be a hostile offer.

It might be a hostile offer, but JetBlue faces some serious issues. The stock has been a dog for the last 3.5 years, and for most of this year it's been trading below the split-adjusted closing price on the date they did their IPO. The market doesn't appear to be "penalizing" them for their operational difficulties, either; the forward P-E ratio on the stock is about 20.

Another issue JetBlue faces is figuring out where they can grow the business. They've had far more difficulty gaining a foothold in the thinner markets from JFK (and BOS) than they did in the very heavily traveled Florida and transcon markets. Geography and the recent airfield congestion make JFK a poor connecting hub. LGB is maxed out as far as slots go, and FLL is essentially full. The new terminal will help to improve the passenger experience at JFK, but again congestion will make it difficult to grow.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
I'd like to see Delta explain to their pilots how they plan to integrate an incredibly-junior, incredibly low-paid (by industry standards), non-union pilot group into the seniority list.

Actually, I doubt that Delta's pilot group would mind at all, given that they'd probably still maintain most of their seniority. Moreover, I'd imagine that they (and national ALPA) would love to have the JetBlue pilots under the Delta contract, since that would eliminate management's ability to argue "well, that's how much JetBlue pays their pilots."

I don't personally think that a Delta-JetBlue merger is going to happen, but I certainly can see the logic behind it.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5351 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7410 times:

Civic and employee pride aside, this merger does make some sense.

For it to have a chance, however, it would require JBLU to admit to themselves 1) that they have hit the wall on profitable expansion, 2) that their stock will stay dead in the water, and 3) that they would have great difficulty getting through any future economic slowdown. If JBLU doesn't believe this, it won't happen.

It would have to be a stock-swap merger; I don't think DL could finance a buyout. (OK, some a.netters will dispute this.) But stock swap would give the JBLU shareholders a chance at recovering their post-January '07 paper losses and avoid taxes on any gain they do have. So JBLU probably wouldn't mind a stock swap.

DL should be pleased with it for the reasons well-stated above by others.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7197 times:

This merger makes more sense than the US and DL one. DL will get more gates, routes, and more money in the process instead of loosing money. I believe the DOT would approve it if a good plan was shown that would benefit both parties.

Hunter



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User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6951 times:

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 3):
2-Delta purchases JetBlue and automatically takes out their number one direct competitior on the Domestic market.

Certainly not their biggest competitor. In NYC, BOS, FLL and MCO yes.

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
They'd be taking them over to kill them, it'd be a hostile offer.

Kill is a strong word. They certainly want something that they have, namely a new terminal.

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
B6 has crushed DL in NY

Delta is still bigger than JetBlue in New York.

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 5):
creating Song, using higher capacity 757s on B6 routes, reconsidering IFE strategy

Song was a blessing in disguise. Delta now has the best Y product of ANY legacy carrier on domestic routes.

Quoting SkyyMaster (Reply 12):
This might not even pass DOJ scrutiny anyway given the monopoly it would create at JFK and along much of the east coast. I don't think we have to worry about this ever happening, regardless of which side you are on.

Exactly. The merged carrier would have nearly a third of the New York market, and be the biggest carrier at LaGuardia and Kennedy. Not to mention that Skyteam would have 60-75% of the New York market to itself.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 15):
What monopoly? AA would still be a very solid second at JFK, and in the NYC market as a whole, CO would be a close second to a hypothetical combined DL/B6

A merged carrier would be much bigger than Continental.

The merger has its merits. Delta hands over its low yielding Florida routes to JetBlue, Delta take the Transcon and Caribbean routes.

In the end you've got to ask yourself if Delta is willing to add that much complexity to its operation, especially with the economy softening and the eventual drop in business travel that comes with it on the horizon.


User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6951 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 13):
and obviously getting rid of B6 would help FL

Yeah, but DL and FL are hub rivals, so this would kind of be neutral for them.

Here are my thoughts, if it actually did happen:
It would give DL a big advantage in JFK.
It might allow DL to expand/improve their pax on-board experience, if they take up some of JetBlue managers.
It would probably be not that good for DL pilots.

Other thoughts:
JetBlue have not been in the news as much recently, like they were a few years ago. I don't know the extent of how well the company has been doing, but it just seems as though they have been forgotten about.

There's my 2 or 3 cents.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Keep jetBlue my jetBlue!!!!

Buttons. We need buttons. Badges, too. Websites. The lot. Take ads out in the NY Times.  Wink Big grin



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6809 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 20):
Keep jetBlue my jetBlue!!!!

Buttons. We need buttons. Badges, too. Websites. The lot. Take ads out in the NY Times.

 Silly hey it worked, didn't it?


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3464 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6683 times:

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 18):
Delta is still bigger than JetBlue in New York.

No they're not. B6 is now #2 in the New York market, followed by AA and DL. DL is now in #4, a position that despite their heavy growth they have not been able to conquer. DL's terminal situation is awful, and though they could pass AA at JFK next year with more growth, AA's looking to step up their game as well, putting DL in an even more compromising position.

I love B6, but I love DL more, and think the merger would make sense from a strategic point (not much different than AA's takeover of AirCal, or to a lesser extent Reno Air). It would allow DL to become #1 in NYC and have a fleet of new airplanes with many of the advancements that are already being added to DL's fleet. It would also put DL neck-and-neck with AA as the world's largest airline.

Will be interesting if the rumors are indeed true (DL's bringing in Richard Anderson certainly has something to do with this (wink wink!).

Jeremy


User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6662 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 2):
I'd like to see Delta explain to their pilots how they plan to integrate an incredibly-junior, incredibly low-paid (by industry standards), non-union pilot group into the seniority list.

actually, it would not be up to Delta to decide how to integrate the JetBlue pilots. The Delta pilots contract gives DALPA the right to determine the integration method in any merger with a non ALPA carrier. Second, I think if you do some research you will find the JetBlue pilots are actually paid pretty well, not far off Delta pay for same sized aircraft.

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 19):
It would probably be not that good for DL pilots.

Think so huh? If I were a Delta pilot, this merger would not worry me at all. If I were a JetBlue pilot...a non union JetBlue pilot, I would be really worried.


User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3103 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 8):
Taking out JetBlue would certainly help things at JFK. I know they're one of the top carriers in terms of movements at the airport, and in terms of passengers carried. I'm guessing they could cut at least 1/3 of B6's flights out of JFK, helping delays.

Not to shoot you as a messenger, nor would I attribute this statement directly to you, but this is exactly the sort of fair-weather support a New Yorker might espouse. ("Boo birds" is an apt description for the Giants and now JetBlue fans!) At the time JetBlue came to being, JFK was UNDERused, and was seen as a good alternative for growth while EWR and LGA were near maxed, with limited opportunity to establish competition. I don't have the documents to support, but I recall PANYNJ being quite happy for a new entrant with intents to start a hub at JFK , and other New York leaders were equally excited. So, is the sentiment now that JFK needs help, and taking out the very airline that created its recent renaissance is the answer? Pretty cynical.

I admire and support B4's innovation over the years. Delta doesn't deserve them. Just my opinion.

-Rampart


25 JetBluefan1 : Such a takeover might make sense to both airlines, but I really would hate to see B6 go away. From an investor's perspective it would probably be grea
26 DeltaL1011man : hahahaha.....i hope your joking but for the people that think that they would save the B6 name it won't ever happen! read post# 3 DL would order new
27 Sxf24 : I agree. A dominant position at a slot-constrained airport in the second large O&D market in the country is incredibly valuable, especially when ther
28 611ATL : At a breakfast with Richard Anderson and Ed Bastian (I'm not that special...apparently the leadership team is making the rounds trying to have face ti
29 ScottB : Because Delta wants to have more feed at LAX in order to build up a hub operation there. Having JetBlue's LGB feed at LAX would make trans-Pacific se
30 Nycfly75 : Why would they do all that? All I would do is knock T6 down, expand T5 too add more gates for widebodies and add Customs. They have 2/3 of what they
31 Sllevin : And Delta wants to make JFK big. So it does make sense. And jetBlue has been suffering the stock doldrums. This deal would be pitched as a path to gr
32 PA201 : DOJ would scrutinzy would focus on the competetive offerings of the consumer market of "NYC" (LGA, EWR, JFK, ISP). Domination of an airport (vs a mar
33 PA201 : DOJ scrutiny would focus on the competetive offerings of the consumer *market* of "NYC" (LGA, EWR, JFK, ISP). Domination of an airport (vs a market)
34 Alphascan : And give'em huge raises along with all other employee groups at B6 which would skew the economics of the whole operation. A legacy and a LCC merging
35 Post contains images Petera380 : A320's in Delta colour scheme!
36 Post contains links GeorgeJetson : Here is an (ex-jetBlue) Delta Airbus A320-232: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...earch/photo_search.php?id=00007378 Please note how the Airbus cu
37 Zone1 : Diluting current stock holders even more. I have a feeling this would be a tough sell to current shareholders, banks, and Boeing, all of which don't
38 AA767LOVER : I would frown on it. B6 is definitely a LOT more effective in JFK than DL could be in the domestic market. DL has not been efficient AT ALL. I remembe
39 Apodino : One problem with that is that Delta got rid of the Wavy Gravy scheme in exchange for the red widget scheme. So the paint scheme you display will neve
40 Post contains images Pilotboi : Ewwwww. Wow, I didn't even think about that before. Forgot jetBlue was on the dark side.
41 Alitalia744 : Two words: Leo Mullin
42 SpencerII : Two flights you took creates a legitimate comparison?
43 DL787932ER : I've heard this idea proposed in the past and the more I think about it the more I like it. Fleet: B6's planes already have many of the Y class amenit
44 GeorgeJetson : You do have a very good point. However, by the time such a merger takes place (if it ever does), chances are that Delta would have already phased out
45 GeorgeJetson : Yeah, I know, Airbus never did use customer numbers, but it’s certainly a coincidence that jetBlue’s A320-232 rhymes with Delta’s 757-232! Also
46 HVNandrew : Lollerskates.[Edited 2007-09-12 04:01:49]
47 AA767LOVER : I didn't say if it was supposed to be legitimate sir. Just stating the facts. I flew them two carriers. I have been in and out of airports a lot, and
48 DeltaL1011man : which was a good thing IF Massport would let DL put in customs then BOS would be a small hub. but that wont happen so DL won't make it a hub.
49 Wukka : I can see how this could be a lucrative move for Delta. That said, why was it roughly a year ago that Delta reportedly said that they were cutting bac
50 Panamair : DL has grown to be JFK's biggest carrier in terms of nonstop destinations offered and even # of daily flights (this past summer) but much of that gro
51 Mika : It would be Delta i am sure, as a layman the foremost reason for DL to take over B6 that i see is to aquire more capacity out of JFK, hence it would
52 Nycfly75 : Wheres WorldTraveller??
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