MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 26014 posts, RR: 77 Posted (2 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 1670 times:
Russia's Transaero has announced plans to begin non-stop service from their base at Moscow Domodedovo to Los Angeles and New York City this coming summer, and Miami by next winter. Currently, they only serve Montreal and Toronto in North America. Let's hope these plans get off the ground. They already have Russian permission to fly to to Los Angeles and New York City, while permission to fly to Miami is pending:
OceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 1618 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter): Russia's Transaero has announced plans to begin non-stop service from their base at Moscow Domodedovo to Los Angeles and New York City this coming summer,
Lets hope for them it's gonna be succesful as they have already served LAX a decade ago using DC-10-30s.
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 12184 posts, RR: 22 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
Transaero served Los Angeles for a number of years with DC-10s and then 767s.
They had terrible on-time performance (sometimes as much as a day late), while I also remember reading they were involved in some consumer problems with 1000s of tickets issued in LA that the airline claimed were not paid for. Apparently their Russian emigre GSA walked off with the money.
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JFK787NYC From United States, joined Apr 2007, 681 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 5 hours ago) and read 1504 times:
I do not know if New York would be a great add on to their network as both Aeroflot & Delta are making money on the route but, the planes are never really packed. I do not believe a 747 would justify the route. Especially if they are planning on three cities right away. Plus, economy pricing to Moscow is around $800 the same pricing as economy to Kazakhstan.
LH648 From Kazakhstan, joined Sep 2006, 507 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 1439 times:
Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 4): Plus, economy pricing to Moscow is around $800 the same pricing as economy to Kazakhstan.
Because there's almost no competition on Moscow-Kazakhstan. UN and KC flying this routes and keeping prices high. From another point of view they are making the good offers for Kazakhstan-Europe or Kazakhstan-Canada. For example ALA-YYZ is US$1120 RT including all taxes.
Laxintl From United States, joined May 2000, 12184 posts, RR: 22 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 1423 times:
Quoting SRT75 (Reply 5): Does SU make money on LAX-SVO?
Dont know if they make money however their average 2006 annual load factor on the route was 79%.
LA has a decent sized Russian (Jewish) community in addition to the largest Armenian community outside of Armenia. SU carries lots of connection traffic as a result to Yerevan.
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OlegShv From Sweden, joined Mar 2006, 674 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 4 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 4): do not know if New York would be a great add on to their network as both Aeroflot & Delta are making money on the route but, the planes are never really packed.
I don't know about SU, but DL's flights to SVO are quite full. My dad was trying to get a ticket last week, and everything was booked, including business-elite. He ended up going through ATL.
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 7):
LA has a decent sized Russian (Jewish) community in addition to the largest Armenian community outside of Armenia. SU carries lots of connection traffic as a result to Yerevan.
Not to mention that Iranians will use SU at times, though they are more likely to use LH or KL, to Tehran. Also, besides the large Russian Jewish community, there is a rather large Ukranian population.
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Juventus From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 948 times:
I agree with LAX and JFK. But why MIA? The Russian community in the San Francisco area is much larger than Miami. Wouldn't SFO make more sense than MIA???
Commavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6803 posts, RR: 59 Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 917 times:
Are they looking to codeshare with someone on the U.S. end of their routes? With the choice of JFK, LAX, and MIA, I'd imagine AA would be the logical choice -- and I seem to remember years back in the late 1990s that AA and Transaero actually had some sort of codeshare deal signed, but it never came into being. That may complicate things, however, if the rumors in the press a few months back about BA wanting to lure S7 into oneworld, is to be believed.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 26014 posts, RR: 77 Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 904 times:
Quoting Juventus (Reply 15): I agree with LAX and JFK. But why MIA? The Russian community in the San Francisco area is much larger than Miami. Wouldn't SFO make more sense than MIA???
There is a very large Russian community in South Florida, which is the 5th largest in the US and quickly growing. More importantly, it is a very recent immigrant wave that started in the early 1990s and hasn't really peaked yet, with more and more Russians (and Ukrainians) moving to South Florida each year, primarily moving to Hollywood and Sunny Isles Beach (a quiet beach area north of Miami Beach that is nicknamed "Little Moscow"). South Florida is also a very popular vacation destination and second home location for wealthy Russians, unlike San Francisco.
Aeroflot has flown to Chicago, Miami, Montreal, San Francisco, and Seattle in the not so distant past, and the flights were easy to fill, but difficult to make money on. Huge Russian communities won't fill make a flight profitable. What Transaero is aiming at with Miami is, rather, the wealth of Miami's expanding Russian community (which is much more than it used to be in the 1990s), and the popularity of Miami as a winter holiday destination for Russians.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 26014 posts, RR: 77 Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 781 times:
Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 19): EDIT: Could BOS be a possibility? Large, underserved market.
If they expand past LAX/MIA/NYC, there are a lot of other markets that I could see coming before Boston, easily. Chicago, San Fransisco, Seattle, Washington, and Houston (oil traffic) namely.
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