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Question On The 1st B747  
User currently offlineSuper80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 148 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3153 times:

Hi everyone, I was going thru some pictures and I found that the 1st B747 had more than 10 windows on each side on the upper level during the 80s and then it became 3 windows on each side again. Any reason why?

Did Boeing take those windows down or they needed to re-skined the plane?


thanks !

super80

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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12181 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3127 times:

They were covered with window plugs.

User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2985 times:
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werent the extra windows actually painted on 001? I remember seeing that somewhere.


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User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7198 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 2):
werent the extra windows actually painted on 001?

I suspect you are right; most of the -100's had just the three windows, and I'm sure the prototype did. Certainly it only had three when it rolled out of the factory for the first time.



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User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

hi all

off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?



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User currently offlineImapilotaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):
hi all

off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?

Right now it's sitting in Seattle at the Museum of Flight (across the road at the static outside display behind the Concorde). You can get within a foot or two of it, but no ability to go inside of it.


User currently offlineB777Neuss From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):

See also N7470 in database.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 3):
I suspect you are right; most of the -100's had just the three windows, and I'm sure the prototype did. Certainly it only had three when it rolled out of the factory for the first time.

I doubt that by the time of rollout, those additional windows were plugged, so I presume that later on, the aircraft got modified for testing the 10 window layout, and later got those windows plugged.


User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

thanks for the feed back guys.


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User currently offlineVisityyj From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 4):
off topic, who got the first 747 and what happened to it?

Nobody. Boeing kept it and it's now in the Seattle Museum of Flight. Well, across the road actually.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1263977&size=L

Some TLC needed.


User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 2):
werent the extra windows actually painted on 001? I remember seeing that somewhere

I recall reading on here that the first 747's were structurally limited to only three windows in the upper deck. Later aircraft had a structural modification that allowed more windows in the upper deck. It's also been stated that some airlines (TWA) actually plugged the extra windows so that all their 741's would look the same.



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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Quoting Visityyj (Reply 9):
Nobody. Boeing kept it and it's now in the Seattle Museum of Flight. Well, across the road actually.

As far as I know, nobody other than Boeing has ever flown it. N7470 did some flight testing for the 777 engines prior to first flight/in service, but aside from that, I don't think it's done much besides sit in storage (in LAS if I recall) and look good at BFI.



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