Pilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1203 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 11258 times:
SQ has announced that regular A380 service (not the ebay flights, but regular daily A380 service) will begin on Oct 28th from Singapore to Sydney. The flight will replace a current B744 aircraft on the route, and will operate flights SQ221, and SQ220 on the route. These flights depart SIN in the early evening, arriving into SYD the following morning, departing SYD in the morning and arrive back into SIN in the afternoon.
I look forward to more announcements like these next year once LHR goes live, as well as the other airlines who have his baby on order.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 2723 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 11140 times:
Wohoo, that day (assuming it's stuck to) is the real start of the A380s life as a comercial plane - finally and will also put paid to the belief that there's still something wrong with this bird - ie an issue with the certification.
RedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 1977 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 10892 times:
It's arriving in SYD at 07:10, and departing at 08:50. A 1:40 turnaround. So much for the doom-and-gloom of "the A380 will take forever to embark and disembark and turn around etc."
Avianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10770 times:
Quoting QF175 (Reply 4): Check out SQ's A380 seatmap
Who in their right mind would ever want to sit in seats 83DG on the upper deck? A pair of seats surrounded by toilets on BOTH SIDES as well as a galley directly behind you! You would think that having the most spacious and flexible cabin on planet earth would permit an airline to avoid something as awful as this..... Come on Singapore, you can do better!
P.S. Where are the amenities of the "future"? Cafeterias? Baby-Sitting zones? Pubs? Casinos? Showers? Gyms? Duty-Free stores? Business centers? Lounges? Bars? Aroma-therapy suites? Jacuzzis? Massage stations? Beauty Parlors? Bowling Alleys?
From "airguideonline.com":
"It has to be a question of space," states Leahy. He argues that the gigantic new A380 aircraft that Airbus has begun building will offer passengers, for the first time, the sense of space as well as elegance of an ocean liner, rather than the cattle-car conditions of today's aircraft. In the company's litany, the A380, due to enter service within five years, will be a "cruise ship of the sky."
For First and Business class passengers, maybe. (Although on every cruise ship I've been on, they had a pool on board.) For the regular folks in "3rd" class, you're gonna get about the same cruise ship experience as on a DC-9.
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 2723 posts, RR: 6 Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10687 times:
Quoting Avianca707359B (Reply 10): ho in their right mind would ever want to sit in seats 83DG on the upper deck? A pair of seats surrounded by toilets on BOTH SIDES as well as a galley directly behind you! You would think that having the most spacious and flexible cabin on planet earth would permit an airline to avoid something as awful as this..... Come on Singapore, you can do better!
Except aren't those wavy lines curtains, so the toilets are only accessable by walking down the outside aisles not the ones that pass DG - would make the seats quite desireable I think!
777STL From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2318 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10562 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6): You might never see the captain and pilots on these flights as they have their own cabin with bunk beds inside the cockpit past the cockpit door.
The 744 has that as well. Certain other widebodies too, depending on how they're configured by the airline, e.g. some of AA's T7s have bunks in the cockpit.
Avianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 204 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10550 times:
Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 11): accessable by walking down the outside aisles
I don't think those are "outside aisles" but rather, a ledge along the wall of the cabin. If it were an aisle, then the same would apply along the entire length of the Business cabin, and I don't think that's the case. In addition, you are going to get all 88 passengers on the upper deck walking past your seat on the way to the rear staircase to "go take a look downstairs to stretch out my legs", as well as many of the 311 passengers on the main deck coming up "just to take a look upstairs", assuming they all have access to the rear staircase.
ANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 10483 times:
Anyone notice that they are using R/J/Y on the seat map.
I thought R was reserved for Supersonic. So in addition to normal First (F) and Premium First (P) we have Suite First (R). How is it loaded in Systems? Is the R fare higher than F or P on other SQ flights?
Xtra1 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 10338 times:
It seems that SQ First Class on the A380 is now officially called "Suites".
The cost of traveling on the 380 SQ "Suites", return to Sydney, is about 45% more than normal (in SGDollars)SQ First Class!
Lucianflyboy From Saint Lucia, joined Jun 2005, 182 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 10317 times:
WOW!!!
I'm SO excited! The availability shows the flight in Sabre but I can't display the seat map. Thanks QF175 for the link. I see the economy section on the upper deck has a different configuration to the lower deck. Wouldn't mind flying back there in the upper deck. Congratulations to SQ and AIRBUS!!
EmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 282 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 10232 times:
Quoting KFly (Reply 20): F Class on B744 @ A$5,426.70, incl tax
R Class on A380 @ A$9,836.70, incl tax
A price difference of 81%!!!!
This will be the publised rate - no doubt the consol/nett fares will be much more inline with other SQ services - I recall EK doing the same when they introduced the A345 fleet - the Suites on EK flights had a higer fare compared to travelling on the 773/W once the aircraft had been in operation for a period of time the fares become the same on the A345 as they are on a 77w... with a few exceptions on very very good promotional fares they tend to flight number restrict - normally excluding the A345 service.
I think it was always going to be the case that the A380 F class would attract a higher premium.
Give it time - they will soon be standard across the SQ fleet.
EK A380 Private suite - Here I come!!
26 Avianca707359B: Just being sarcastic. It looks like an incredible layout, but I still have an issue with seats 83 D&G.
27 Vanguard: Thanks for the clarification. I see how 1F is the bed. It's just harder to tell with the J seats!
28 Vanguard: I hope that the No. of toilets is more than the No. shown. i.e. that where it says 'toilet' there are 1+ WC !
29 JAAlbert: So what is the purpose of the staircase across from door 3R? Or is that something else. I would think the wing box and fuel tanks would preclude any l
30 EmiratesUK: Access to crew rest area... or maybe a lower gally...?? I would go with the first - crew rest area... I really can't see it being anything else - I'm
31 EmiratesUK: I thought SQ would have used this oportunity to introduce a new Y+ cabin same as on the A345... especially as QF have just announced that they will...
33 Zvezda: Do they have their own lav in there? Exactly. The "outside aisles" are only suitable for cats that have escaped their cages. On BA, not SQ. Each airl
34 Ikramerica: 471 seats including 399 Y seats. Only 72 premium seats. Premium ratio 15.3%. Compared to the nominal capacity of 555 seats, that's a density of 84.8%.
35 Airbazar: Which is exactly why they bought the A380. The premium market is stagnant and sturated, while the leisure market keeps growing, especially in Asia. T
36 BP1: Will the seating configuration be what is advertised on the web site on the new 777's including power ports in all seats?
37 Zvezda: SQ will be fitting all the WhaleJet seats with power ports, Linux, etc. -- all the new features will be carried over from the 777-300ER.
38 Fly2CHC: 7 hours ground time in SIN? Would have thought they would have done a rotation up to KUL - 3 hours return block time? This would help build up crew ho
39 Zvezda: The cost of flying SIN-KUL in a WhaleJet would far exceed the revenue.
40 Jimbo27L: Marvellous! Was looking for this info last week - cheers for sharing. Im on BA15 SIN - SYD on 5th Nov due to arrive 20 mins before it....ohhhh the kud
41 ManchesterMAN: Better hope you don't land 20 minutes after it as it'll be a long queue for immigration
42 Viscount724: They're certainly not carrying as many people as possible on the A380. The 471 seat configuration is lower-density than all 3 A380 configurations ann
43 Gbfra: You have obviously never flown on an A380. Otherwise you would not write such nonsense.
44 Ikramerica: What is the difference in cost between the same route run on the 77W and on the 744. I was under the impression they charged a premium on the 77W rou
45 KFly: Just a couple of observations regarding the SQ A380 seat map: 1) There's no dedicated galley for the upper deck ECY cabin. Does this mean the meals an
46 Airbazar: Yes, but SQ's standards are a little above everyone else's, even EK's. So let me rephrase it: They need a plane that can carry as many paople as poss
47 Ikramerica: That's because SQ's new J product is one of the most generous/space wasting flying. Most three class carriers are doing 2/3/2 or 2/4/2 on J on planes
48 Jacobin777: A.netter Norcal773 has flown SFO-ICN-SIN on the B773ER in J-Class a few times and has told me they initially had a price premium but that he has been
49 Gunsontheroof: Great news! Hopefully it won't be long before I catch one in service here in the U.S. (or better yet, in Australia should I finally make a trip there)
50 WingedMigrator: the lift can be seen just at the top of the rear stairs, to the right. There is another in the front, just ahead of the first upper deck door. I'm no
51 Vincewy: For certain airlines offering premium economy, they could have front end of both decks with C/J, the back of upper deck premium economy (some larger t
52 707lvr: The diagram seems to have provoked quite a few new questions. You first few lads aboard, take good notes! I'm curious also about that grand staircase.
53 Ikramerica: Don't count on it. I doubt they will let you walk freely between decks via the F and J cabins if you are in Y. They may even discourage you from taki
54 Zvezda: Business class, on the other hand, is likely to have a more spacious feel because SQ will probably omit the center row of overhead bins, as they do w
55 Fly2CHC: I don't think that would be their concern - they need to build up crew hours, ground handling experience, etc and test facilities before their entire
56 SpeedyGonzales: Seems like a very nice layout, with the possible exception of the backseats on the upper deck. The largest sub-cabin is only 126 seats, between doors
57 EK413: Has SQ changed aircraft schedules with the introduction of the new flagship A380...? The SQ220 always been an originating aircraft (SQ219 arriving th
58 Meta: What is the space between the windows and the seats that is all throughout the upper deck? Sorry if its already been posted.
60 Coal: SQ's? I fly them to the US, Australia, Europe, and Africa and have always find the Raffles Class area totally full. True. As a matter of fact I do no
61 Zvezda: That space only exists below about elbow height due to the curvature of the fuselage. There are bins on the floor there just like on the upper deck o
62 Avianca707359B: I was making a satirical comment on Leahy's "cruise ship" comparison. For him to compare the Whale Jet passenger experience to a cruise ship is truly
63 JAAlbert: Whew! 399 economy passengers per flight! On this plane alone. That seems like a huge amount of seats to fill. I wonder what will happen to traffic in
64 Coal: There is hardly a slow season on the SIN-SYD sector. Flights seem as they are always full, no matter the time of year, with most pax connecting in SI
65 EmiratesUK: So the next big question is - when will they load the schedules for the other A380 flights - I expect LHR to come on line next - When is the next deli
66 Ikramerica: Whichever airline comes to LAX first with scheduled A380 service will get my "virgin" dollars. So that will probably be QF, but you never know, SQ mig
67 Zvezda: SQ should get their second WhaleJet in January and their third in February, at which time they should be able to start LHR within a week or so. SQ ma
68 CygnusChicago: Interesting. Why would you spend money to fly an aircraft you loathe? You should rather purchase Boeing stock with your "virgin" dollars
69 Ikramerica: Just shows how confused you and other people must be, since you can't separate the love of airplanes and flying from the flawed business case of the
70 Gemuser: Zvezda Do you have any other delivery dates for the A380, including EK & QF? Thanks Gemuser
71 Zvezda: I can't think of anyone who loathes the WhaleJet. I can't understand the simple-minded assumption that anyone who recognizes that Airbus will lose a
72 WingedMigrator: So, if the crew rest is in the 'basement', what do you figure this might be? (question mark symbols added)
73 Zvezda: I figure that is the crew rest area, in the standard location. I'm not convinced that what we see at door 3 is a stairwell.
74 WingedMigrator: Perhaps... but a crew rest area with simple curtains? Or do squiggly lines simply mean movable partitions? The lack of windows bolsters your theory.
75 Zvezda: I've seen many crew rest quarters with just a curtain surrounding one or more seats in the passenger seating area -- including on SQ. I've also seen
76 Ikramerica: I loathe it so much a woke up early and fought LA traffic to stand by the In-N-Out burger and watch it land just so I could spit on it. But I don't h
77 Mariner: Oh, they're around. A couple of years ago, just to admire the aircraft in any way would produce a string of venemous responses, and it was nothing to
78 Zvezda: Either your eyes or your screen resolution or both are better than mine. Could be. We should know next month. What I remember is a handful of exubera
79 6thfreedom: Yes, change of schedule so that the aircraft has sufficient ground time in SIN to iron out any bugs between flights. current arrival/departure times
80 Mariner: Then we had different memories. I have never made any great claims for the aicraft - beyond what it is, a considerable achievement - yet it reached a
81 Zvezda: I did not imply that you were among those making preposterous claims. Many members, including you as I recall, were simply caught in the crossfire.
82 Mariner: I did not assume that. I just don't think it is a good idea to re-write what happened. The fact remains - because the posts are all in the archives -
83 Zvezda: We seem to hold different opinions on which side was more egregious but the facts are that there were an abundance of egregious posts on both sides a
84 Mariner: There were indeed, I have not denied that. But the facts are also that many of the "loathe the A380" posts were about the aircraft, not the business
85 CygnusChicago: Considering posts about the discomfort of immigration with the sweaty masses, your track record indicates your loathing. Revisionist history doesn't
86 EK413: Cheers thanks for the update on info... EK413
87 Ikramerica: Here's my not so professional photo from the cloudy day the A380 arrived at LAX: You must have me confused with someone else. And I'd ask that you sto
88 Asiaflyer: SQ actually does. Has happened to me twice on intra asia routes when I've been travelling with my girlfriend. She is a Star Alliance gold member and
89 RedChili: SeatExpert claims that the answer to this hotly debated issue is a crew rest area. See http://www.seatexpert.com/_SQ_A380.html
90 Ikramerica: While they don't necessarily have all the answers, it is obvious it is a crew rest ladder based on the graphics involved. A compact stair with an arr
91 WingedMigrator: Thanks for the link, interesting... so what is the aft end of the upper deck? SeatExpert draws a blank on that one, which is OK I guess since they're
92 Jacobin777: ...personally in Y-class, I would rather have narrower seats and more seat pitch (i.e.-such as EK) over wider seats and less seat pitch...of course, t
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