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Skybus's New Cities From CMH And New Focus City  
User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 999 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13778 times:

Rumor, yes it's just a rumor, so flame me if you want but tomorrow I believe Skybus will announce Punta Gorda, FL, Chattanooga, TN. Wilmington, DE and Biloxi, MS from CMH

The next focus city is supposed to be GSO. I don't know any routes from there or when they will start.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13739 times:

Quoting Cmhsrq (Thread starter):

The next focus city is supposed to be GSO. I don't know any routes from there or when they will start.

They are planning FLL-GSO, that I know.

Quoting Cmhsrq (Thread starter):
Rumor, yes it's just a rumor, so flame me if you want but tomorrow I believe Skybus will announce Punta Gorda, FL, Chattanooga, TN. Wilmington, DE and Biloxi, MS from CMH

I think you mean Ft. Myers/Tampa, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and New Orleans/Pensacola.

[Edited 2007-09-14 02:55:52]


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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2293 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13594 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Quoting Cmhsrq (Thread starter):
Rumor, yes it's just a rumor, so flame me if you want but tomorrow I believe Skybus will announce Punta Gorda, FL, Chattanooga, TN. Wilmington, DE and Biloxi, MS from CMH

I think you mean Ft. Myers/Tampa, Atlanta, Philadelphia, and New Orleans/Pensacola.

LMAO!

Interesting rumor. I have heard 2 of the 4, Punta Gorda and Chattanooga. However, I was also told that Milwaukee was to be among the next Skybus cities as well. ILG and GPT do sound like much better candidates though.

And GSO as the next focus city, eh? I could definitely see it.


User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13584 times:

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 2):
And GSO as the next focus city, eh? I could definitely see it

I would love, but know will never see, a direct link from Michigan-North Carolina (like) LAN



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User currently offlinePtcflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13511 times:

You Mean:

Atlanta, Knoxville, Nashville, Memphis

Ft. Myers, Tampa, Miami, Sarasota Orlando

Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington D.C.

Baton Rouge, Jackson, Montgomery, New Orleans, Pensacola, Panama City


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5603 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13453 times:

I suppose I'd be just as likely to plan a last-minute vacation to GSO as I would to CMH.  Wink So that means I can start looking for n/s from BLI, SAN and OAK to South Carolina? Or will Ohio be our only choice?

I don't believe GSO exactly meets my expectations as the warm-weather, winter sun-and-fun destination to which people will flock from, well, from where I'm not sure (in order to help SX remain solvent during the long, cold winter.) No wait, maybe the people are supposed to flock FROM Greensboro to, well, I guess we'll have to see about that as well... I just don't know what the flock is going on here apparently.

I guess I just don't get this whole Skybus thing, do I?

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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13433 times:

Quoting Ptcflyer (Reply 4):
Baton Rouge, Jackson, Montgomery, New Orleans, Pensacola, Panama City

Don't forget Mobile. I doubt SX would advertise it as Montgomery, but maybe.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 5):
So that means I can start looking for n/s from BLI, SAN and OAK to South Carolina

GSO's in North Carolina.  Smile


User currently offlineLX64A332 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2007, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13387 times:

Skybus has also announced CMH to NAS service starting spring 2008


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User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13373 times:

GSO has been in the rumor mill for a long while, glad to see this "getting out".

User currently offlineBP1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13302 times:

Will Skybus look at Williams Gateway / Phoenix-Mesa Airport?

Cheers,
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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13249 times:

Oh please let GSO be the next focus city - would be quite convenient for me, and it'd be nice having some expanded low-fare service out of GSO.

BTW, I'll probably be booking that flight on GSO-FLL as soon as it comes out - $40 r/t to FLL sounds more than fine to me - especially for a spring break type trip.


User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13167 times:

If the whole GSO focus city rumor turns proves to be correct, it would be interesting to see how Delta and US Airways respond...if they respond at all.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13146 times:

Quoting National757 (Reply 11):
If the whole GSO focus city rumor turns proves to be correct, it would be interesting to see how Delta and US Airways respond...if they respond at all.

They won't. No need to waste resources on an airline whose entire business model will collapse upon itself within a year. It will be great for GSO while it lasts.



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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13118 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):

While I am skeptical of SX, it will be hilarious when they are entrenched in 2 years at some sizeable, if not particularly large markets, like CMH and GSO. Then it will be too late for the legacies to put them under without flying major loss-leader routes.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13116 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
It will be great for GSO while it lasts.

I won't complain if my last semester in college I'm shuttling back and forth weekly on GSO-FLL - there would be worse fates.

One of my friends is praying for GSO-BLI so he can go visit his girlfriend in SEA every other weekend - I booked him a ticket to SEA tonight for $250 - if SkyBus gets on GSO-BLI, then he'll be able to get 7 trips for the price of one.


User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13065 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
They won't. No need to waste resources on an airline whose entire business model will collapse upon itself within a year. It will be great for GSO while it lasts.

Yeah -- because Ryan Air and Easyjet (similar models - especially RyanAir) are just doing HORRIBLE. RyanAir doesn't fly to Barcelona, but they fly to Reus and Girona - both about an hour away from Barcelona -- and they seem to be doing pretty well. Oh - and their current fare between Reus and BCN is 1 pence and they seem to be doing pretty well.


User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13062 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 14):
$250 - if SkyBus gets on GSO-BLI, then he'll be able to get 7 trips for the price of one.

You have to be quick to get the $10 dollar fares since there are only ten for each flight. The whole Skybus $10 fare deal seems like a bait and switch deal to me. Lead the masses to their website for the $10 fares..and then only have higher fares available for purchase. Pretty slick, but will it work long term? There are about 150 Million reasons to think so  Smile



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 13053 times:

Quoting National757 (Reply 16):
You have to be quick to get the $10 dollar fares since there are only ten for each flight. The whole Skybus $10 fare deal seems like a bait and switch deal to me.

Eh, at least with this website, it will come up when the flight schedules are loaded, so I don't see it as a major problem in my case. Also, for me, I'm only concerned about traveling through May, so it's not a huge deal for me.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5603 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 13013 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 6):
GSO's in North Carolina.

Oooops. Thank you for catching that 'Critter; I guess I was thinking of the other "Green" city but didn't think quite enough.

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 15):
Yeah -- because Ryan Air and Easyjet (similar models - especially RyanAir) are just doing HORRIBLE.

Last time I checked, Ryan Air was in Europe and we are discussing here an entirely different country in which I don't think this business model will work -- different infrastructure, different social and economic attitudes, different travel philosophy, different geography, etc.

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 13001 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 13):
While I am skeptical of SX, it will be hilarious when they are entrenched in 2 years at some sizeable, if not particularly large markets, like CMH and GSO. Then it will be too late for the legacies to put them under without flying major loss-leader routes.

I think that airlines are going to wait off a year before any reactions. If Skybus is still flying at the end of next summer, you will start seeing some reactions.

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 15):
Yeah -- because Ryan Air and Easyjet (similar models - especially RyanAir) are just doing HORRIBLE.

We all know how Europe and the US are the same thing, and how American and European consumers have the same tastes. Oh, yeah, and we all know how excellent a train network America has that connects middle-of-nowhere airports to major city centres. Apples and oranges. Just because it works in Europe does not mean it will work in America. In particular, the infrastructure of Europe's public transit and rail networks makes flying into secondary airports significantly less of a hassle.

I think Skybus' business model in the US would work best if they reversed their focus. Instead of connecting cities like Columbus and Greensboro to underutilized runway's, they should connect airports like FLL, NAS, and BUR to underutilized runways. Cater to the leisure traffic, that doesn't fly that often, and they can simply follow in the successful footsteps of Allegiant. I wouldn't be surprised if they do it in a last ditch effort to save the airline. It might work if they make the switch on time.

[Edited 2007-09-14 05:50:36]


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User currently offlineBirdbrainz From United States of America, joined May 2005, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 12951 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 5):

I don't believe GSO exactly meets my expectations as the warm-weather, winter sun-and-fun destination to which people will flock from, well, from where I'm not sure (in order to help SX remain solvent during the long, cold winter.) No wait, maybe the people are supposed to flock FROM Greensboro to, well, I guess we'll have to see about that as well... I just don't know what the flock is going on here apparently.

I guess I just don't get this whole Skybus thing, do I?

Look at your name. Of course Greensboro will never be another San Diego, but you have a very CA attitude. I know. I'm originally from CA myself, and I too thought, why on earth would anyone spend the time to even know where GSO is, much less visit it? Well, go ahead, keep thinking that way.

Ever spent time in GSO? While not disagreeing with you about GSO in general, I think you'd soil yourself if you could see the number of large private jets (G-V, Falcon 50, etc) that fly into here. There's money here for sure. From exactly where I don't know. Geez, there's even separate Lamborghini and Ferrari dealers here.

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 13):
While I am skeptical of SX, it will be hilarious when they are entrenched in 2 years at some sizeable, if not particularly large markets, like CMH and GSO. Then it will be too late for the legacies to put them under without flying major loss-leader routes.

I agree. Hard to tell if GSO will work out. I can say that there are a ton of travelers paying relativity high fares for sub-par service to/from GSO.



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User currently offlineCitrusCritter From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1131 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 12939 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19):
Oh, yeah, and we all know how excellent a train network America has

While axeing your clause about out of the way airports, doesn't Europe's high-speed train network actually discourage air travel? So therefore shouldn't the lack of one in America actually be an argument in favor of SX? If I can't get to SEA from CMH direct without going through a hub and making a connection, but SX can get me to BLI direct, isn't that a plus?


User currently offlineMiAAmi From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

Good luck to them! It looks like they are taking the slow approach to expansion and it may be working. They are filling seats out of CMH

User currently offlineCRJ200FAGuy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12772 times:

Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 20):



Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 20):
Look at your name. Of course Greensboro will never be another San Diego, but you have a very CA attitude. I know. I'm originally from CA myself, and I too thought, why on earth would anyone spend the time to even know where GSO is, much less visit it? Well, go ahead, keep thinking that way.

Ever spent time in GSO? While not disagreeing with you about GSO in general, I think you'd soil yourself if you could see the number of large private jets (G-V, Falcon 50, etc) that fly into here. There's money here for sure. From exactly where I don't know. Geez, there's even separate Lamborghini and Ferrari dealers here.

You are right about GSO not becoming another San Diego. San Diego isn't land locked. As for not wanting to spend time in GSO, you are right. I've spent one too many 18 hour layovers counting down the seconds until I could leave.

There may be money in GSO, but how much of that money will be spent on Skybus tickets? If I had a ferrari, I surely wouldn't be caught dead on a Skybus plane.

As I read post after post bashing legacy I carriers I see the same phrase. Could you please define subpar service? I'd really like to know what it is. Are you just pissy that you have to fly on an RJ and have to eat before you board the airplane? Do you think GSO deserves 9X daily to LAX, IAD and JFK? I find it hard to believe that the majority of flights are operated with disgruntled employees who give you a growl and a half a cup of pop. It seems that every midsized city in America thinks they deserve better airservice than they get.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12631 times:

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 21):
doesn't Europe's high-speed train network actually discourage air travel?

On short distances, yes. Hence, for example, there are no airline flights between Paris-CDG and Brussels.

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 21):
So therefore shouldn't the lack of one in America actually be an argument in favor of SX?

No, not with them serving out of the way airports.

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 21):
If I can't get to SEA from CMH direct without going through a hub and making a connection, but SX can get me to BLI direct, isn't that a plus?

The two hours you save by not having to make a connection is lost in the two hours it takes to drive from BLI to Seattle.

The difference between out-of-the-way airports in Europe and those in the US, is that if you fly to some airport in the middle of nowhere in Europe, you can hop on a train or a direct bus route and get to the city centre in a fairly quick amount of time. That is not the case in the US. There are no trains to get you there quickly. If you are visiting, you are pretty much stuck renting a car. I know BLI has a bus that goes to downtown Seattle, but at $57 round-trip per person, you might be paying more for your bus ticket than your airline ticket. That stopover in Minneapolis doesn't sound so bad anymore, does it?

There is nothing wrong with flying to BLI. The airport is certainly a market in itself. Though when BLI itself has eight daily non-stop flights to Seattle, calling it Seattle is moronic. You aren't saving yourself time, nor in many cases money, by using BLI as an alternative to SEA.



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25 SANFan : I have actually been to visit friends in GSO and it's a nice place. And I'm sure they have plenty of rich people there with lots of private jets. (Of
26 Planesavvy : Hey. I just checked out the Skybus website and they have a "Suggest a New Skybus Destination" feature!!! That is brilliant! How many other airlines do
27 Gsoflyer : Where is the money from? The private jets all belong to places like Labcorp, NASCAR teams, NASCAR engine shops, Danaher, JP, Furniture Companies. Wha
28 Charlipr : JetBlue has or had the same feature on there website.
29 DLCnxgptjax : If this is indeed true it will be good news for my home airport (GPT). That will be three new airlines this year. G4, Myrtle Beach Direct Air (or wha
30 DAL767400ER : As did (or does?) Air Tran. Certainly not a novel idea by Skybus.
31 AlexPorter : Okay, here's my educated opinion on what cities Skybus airports really serve (based on Census Bureau-defined Metropolitan Statistical Areas): BLI/Bell
32 CitrusCritter : BLI was a bad example. Let's go with CEF. No CMH-BDL as far as I know. So instead of making a connection, which with the exception of CO (CLE) would
33 FlyCMH : Actually, Delta Connection does fly CMH-BDL twice daily with ERJ-145s. No nonstops to Jacksonville though.
34 MiAAmi : With all due respect you also said on USAviation.com that SX would never get off the ground about a year ago. I always like reading your posts and 99
35 MSYtristar : I heard from a decent source that Skybus was going to be flying to New Orleans proper, as in, MSY. I guess we will see. GPT isn't really all that far
36 Itsnotfinals : So you finally admit there is a market for this type of airline, glad to see you are coming around. Works for G4 Yet it's one of their best performai
37 CitrusCritter : G4 does not serve out of the way airports. They fly to medium sized and smaller markets which normally see only RJ service. They do not advertise the
38 Itsnotfinals : They also serve BFI, and RFD is marketed as Chicago. I wnet to their website and before buying a ticket there was no warning that "You may not fly on
39 Gregarious119 : I suggested a while back that they serve RDG instead of ILG, is ILG set up for commercial service already? RDG may be a bit more out of the way, but t
40 Post contains images CitrusCritter : They serve BLI because there is a market for vacation travelers there. It met might original criteria as a medium/small market that normally sees onl
41 DeltAirlines : ILG should be ready to go - they had Delta Connection service to ATL up until a couple of months ago.
42 Post contains images MD90fan : Wow, fabulous Greensboro, North Carolina! Go Skybus! What makes them want to do any serious operation here? I know all the decent, reputable cities we
43 EXAAUADL : I think GYY or RFD is a likely add as well.....I think they should also go to SFB. Hopefully the whole housing debacle wont hurt them..as people's mor
44 Birdbrainz : No. I don't have a problem with RJ's. GSO-YOW is quite nice as I can stay on RJ's the whole way. Also, using Republic to PHL is nice (even though I h
45 Post contains links KarlB737 : You can now take a closer look at these two cities on the flight plan for Skybus. Here's the writeup straight out of the Columbus Dispatch: Two Citie
46 Rbgso : I am a resident of GSO, and while this sounds promising, I'm hardpressed to understand why they'd have a focus city 55 minutes from their hub. But I'm
47 ScottB : The metro areas as determined by the Census Bureau are also somewhat political, though, and the Census tends to take the easy way out by using counti
48 USADreamliner : And, that's the attitude I like!! As Jerry Blank (stranger with candy) once said: "if you are going to reach for a star... reach for the closest one!
49 Cubsrule : GSO is a smart move, IMO. They ought to be able to draw folks from a good chunk of Charlotte (heck, there are parts of metro Charlotte that are a shor
50 MAH4546 : Actually, from day one I said the model would work with vacation routes. That's true. I never thought they would ever have their first flight, and co
51 Post contains images Itsnotfinals : I think your first quote was "They will last exactly 7 months"
52 3201 : The people I know who have flown Ryanair did not have excellent trains from the dumpy airports they flew into to anywhere they really wanted to go. N
53 SkyyMaster : Actually, I believe Airtran was indeed the first to do this, at least 2-3 years ago. I do not look at their website often to see if it is still there
54 MAH4546 : Not really. Ryanair sells tickets at prices much lower than even Skybus. Skybus fares can go into $300+ round-trip easily. Ryanair fares don't get th
55 CMHSRQ : Well I guess not today, maybe Monday Noticed the train debate. Or the public transportation debate. No offense but Americans don't care about what tra
56 MAH4546 : Regardless of public transit issues or people renting cars, the fact remains that the cost savings offered by Skybus don't add up, when you take into
57 Itsnotfinals : That's assunming you are doing business right in the city, with many companies being based up north of town where public transportation isn't very go
58 Mkirch72 : Give people $10 fares and they will figure out a way to drive the remaining distance (family, taxi, etc.). And we all know that US multinationals do
59 Post contains images MAH4546 : Though is there an alternative? No, there is not. And when it is, it is usually an airport that is heavily restricted, whehter by capacity, runway, s
60 Pe@rson : Virtually everyone said that Ryanair, that deliciously irreverent, controversial, and confrontational airline, would not exist for long. Yet it now ha
61 Itsnotfinals : which makes flying into airports like ARN and MUC especially tragic considering they are both world class airports, yet are "in the middle of nowhere
62 CitrusCritter : But they're expanding beyond CMH. CMH is not meant to be a hub like ATL for DL or even on the scale of MDW for WN (please don't start the hub/focus c
63 SkyyMaster : I know this happened early on in Ryanair's existence, where I read someone purchased a ticket to Frankfurt and did not realize they were landing in Ha
64 Itsnotfinals : Ths argument has been made since before they took to the air. BLI is one of their best routes. Also the website says Bellingham, etc etc. Only people
65 Delta767 : When will this be announced? When will the focus city news be announced? There has been buzz in the Triad recently about a big announcement from an e
66 Post contains images Jimbobjoe : I couldn't let this one go, but CLE was the first city in the western hemisphere to have a train to connect the airport to downtown. Today, the Red L
67 Post contains images DeltaAVL : How about GSP?
68 Itsnotfinals : but how much is a taxi? what if you're working down in the suburbs, like at Progressive Insurance, or in Willoughby, or Lorain, etc. the train can't
69 Jimbobjoe : And those are all good points. Regionally, yes, public transportation isn't easy in Cleveland. I responded because you specifically referred to getti
70 ERJ170 : Very true. GSO is similar in demographics.. income.. population.. culture.. but not necessarily corporations.. Not saying GSO doesn't have successful
71 Cubsrule : With the rumoured buildup of GSO, I wonder how close together SX will be willing to open stations. One of the hallmarks of their business plan is tha
72 JDAirCEO : GSO has huge exposure to University traffic, not just students but university staff in the area always complain about the lack of reasonably priced se
73 ERJ170 : OKay.. but students only account for a total of a few weeks a year... Spring break Fall break Christmas Break maybe Thanksgiving break what other tim
74 DeltAirlines : Students don't always travel, but they do a fair bit. I travel about 5 times a year outside of Fall/Thanksgiving/Winter/Spring breaks - some for leisu
75 Cubsrule : I think a lot of it depends on what schools we're talking about. Up at RDU, for example, Duke students fly far more than NC State students (UNC-CH is
76 DeltAirlines : That does help. State/UNC are predominately in-state kids, so they'll just drive home. Here at Wake, we're a lot of out-of-state kids, so whenever I'
77 Delta767 : Actually, I know for a fact that High Point University (and I bet Elon too) draw a predominantly out of state base of students. While many are from NC
78 SkyyMaster : Just guessing and I know someone will misinterpret this (some more than others, ahem), but as for some of the aforementioned colleges - I'd be willing
79 DeltAirlines : I'm a senior at Wake and I'm one of the few students that would always go full service first. Sure, there are some that wouldn't, but when I told peo
80 IndyCanuck : Quote from MAH4546 on April 24th, 2007. MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 17832 posts, RR: 54 Reply 43, posted Tue Apr 24 2007 11:57:07 your local
81 MAH4546 : Okay, sure. Because we all know how me throwing out some random, arbitrary number means everything. I still don't think they'll be around very long.
82 N917me : Wilmington DE would be a great choice. 20 minutes to PHL. Free parking at New Castle County/Wilmington airport. DL is the only other carrier there. Pe
83 SkyyMaster : I don't know which is worse. Endless threads about whether Skybus will succeed (my vote is no, I gave them 18 months) or the fact people are willing
84 Post contains images Itsnotfinals : But you argued they are trying to get blue-collar passengers, which is it? 160 million dollar credit line does not mean money in the bank, it means o
85 MAH4546 : They are. Doesn't change the fact that Columbus is a white-collar town. Maybe you need to work on your comprehension skills.
86 Post contains images ThreeIfByAir : If Skybus can just get Ohio State to play some more football games on the road (or if Skybus starts flying to the home airports of some Big 10 schools
87 Itsnotfinals : LOL white collar means more disposal income (supposedly) , why don't you just stick to your inside AA info which is pretty good and leave poor little
88 Tornado82 : Considering it's Skybus, if they went to ABE they could call it NYC and PHL all in one shot.
89 Post contains images Itsnotfinals : it works for WN, why not for SX?
90 Tornado82 : WN is at ABE? WN calls PHL NYC? I must have missed those memos. But either way you get what you pay for.
91 Itsnotfinals : WN calling MHT "Boston Area" etc etc etc
92 Tornado82 : MHT is more Boston than PSM, but either way it's BS that any airline pulls that.
93 MAH4546 : I know what white and blue collar mean. Columbus is a white collar town, unless you consider Nationwide Insurance (and Columbus' large insurance indu
94 Jimbobjoe : Actually, I'd like to hear your definition of white and blue collar. Columbus is almost always mentioned as a white collar town, not just in comparis
95 AustinAirport : AUS anybody. Dwell on that.
96 Itsnotfinals : Actually Columbus lost that moniker in the late 90's Columbus is now considered a higher demographic than "average" and is not used for product testi
97 Mikey711MN : Agreed. With the planned ULCC terminal trailer set to go, I think Skybus's presence here is just a matter of time. -Mike
98 SkyyMaster : I really wish the powers that be at AUS would reconsider this and stick with their original master plan. A cheap, pre-fab building is going to make o
99 Quagmire123 : Actually, many times there are doctors aboard the SX flights.
100 Flybulldog : I love the people who think that Columbus is a blue-collar town. The vast majority of jobs in Columbus are for Fortune 500 companies. If you look at a
101 Itsnotfinals : That is my argument, many people argue no one who earns more than 30,000 a year will set foot on Skybus and that is just patently incorrect which is
102 CMHSRQ : 2 examples of Skybus pax My parents who live in Layton FL, in the Keys MM 64 fly from FLL to CMH Friend Henry who lives in SAV, yet is driving to SGJ
103 Itsnotfinals : another 2 examples: My aunt and Uncle that are retired professionals that live in CMH flying SX CMH to BLI to see their new Granddaughter in Seattle.
104 Mikey711MN : AFAIK, the new trailer won't interfere with the master plan, which would eventually construct a second south terminal and construct loop roads betwee
105 MAH4546 : Always one that needs the last word, even when you were absolutely wrong. No, my mind hasn't changed there. Business travelers won't be making the swi
106 Itsnotfinals : if by presenting facts you mean wrong then so be it. I've done that on NW and UA and OS , so SX is no worse than many carriers' service. It's perjora
107 AustinAirport : AMEN
108 Quagmire123 : I would say I've definitly heard more positive stories. Skybus has allowed family's to fly to funeral's for relatives that live across the country th
109 Post contains images SkyyMaster : Thats good to hear. Last time I looked on the website, the ULCC terminal isn't on the various master plan maps. I know it was a late idea so it proba
110 MAH4546 : What facts? That there is a Honda plant in Marysville? Columbus is a very white collar town. It is the definition of white collar. Calling it blue co
111 Post contains images Indy : That was sarcasm right? People who can afford it tend to side with European products. Especially the ones you mention. You were comparing low end U.S
112 Tornado82 : Your two examples did nothing to prove Skybus as a businessman's airline. Both of your examples are still leisure travel, which almost always looks f
113 Itsnotfinals : apparently you don't read posts. you have constantly inplied that only low income people would use Skybus. Now you are saying that all levels of peop
114 MAH4546 : Don't worry, I'm not.
115 Post contains images SkyyMaster : I recall back in the "ancient" days of the early 80's and cable TV, Time-Warner selected Columbus, OH as it's test bed city for interactive cable TV b
116 Post contains images Itsnotfinals : well good that will make the "Skybus Celebrates 1 year" post more fun It's always fun exchanging repartee' with you. You do have a great AA and MIA k
117 G4resagent : Don't forget Allegiant...
118 Post contains images Tornado82 : They'll get into a battle by discounting the checked baggage everyone else does for free.
119 Post contains links Quagmire123 : Looks like at least one new SX destination is being announced Thursday. http://www.sun-herald.com/Newsstory....ory=tp3ch8.htm&folder=NewsArchive2
120 CitrusCritter : That's Punta Gorda. I though that had already been announced some time ago? It seems like we've known PGD was their choice for RSW/SRQ for a while no
121 Quagmire123 : I know people have known...I'm just stating that it looks official this week.
122 Delta767 : Any idea when the focus city speculation will be announced or confirmed?
123 Quagmire123 : Don't know anything about the new focus city announcement....I'm pretty sure multiple destinations are coming this week. I know what they are, I just
124 USAirALB : what about ALB could advertise as NYC, Montreal,multiple cities in VT
125 CitrusCritter : Might be over the top even for them. I woudl expect to see them at BTV "Montreal" at some point.
126 USAirALB : but do u think they will go to ALB?
127 CitrusCritter : Maybe to serve ALB itself at some point like they do MCI or RIC. Not as an alternate to something larger. SWF or ISP make a lot more sense for NYC it
128 USAirALB : i could understand that because RIC is a smaller aprt. that ALB
129 SkyyMaster : OK, this thread was started on the 13th, with the alleged announcement due the next day. It's now coming up on the 19th. And the big news is....????
130 Itsnotfinals : Punta Gorda was leaked today, more to come. The offical announcement was supposed to be Thursday.
131 Mnevans : AND someone took it upon themselves to start an entire thread because "skybus website may be showing new flights".
132 SkyyMaster : Right, thus my question. The first thing I did on seeing the thread was look on the website for news and have checked it a few times since. I just ch
133 SQ452 : Albany is like a 3 or 4 hour drive from NYC! Newburgh would be more NYC than anything and even thats a stretch. Plattsburgh would be good for Montrea
134 Gsoflyer : Students travel in droves during those times of year. Students DO travel all year long though. Heck, how do you think Amtrak can offer a student adva
135 MiAAmi : Looks like the CMH-MCI flight will be re-timed. The flight that now leaves CMH at 928p to MCI will now dept CMH at 1227p. The return flight leaves MCI
136 Tornado82 : 100 students isn't even a BELF on that Skybus A319, and if they're studying abroad they're not going to fly Skybus anyways. No, they really don't. Yo
137 Post contains images Steeler83 : Of course it would be on any "normally configured" A319 tho, right?
138 Itsnotfinals : Announcing four new nonstop flights from Columbus starting December 5. New Cities: Chattanooga Gulfport-Biloxi/New Orleans Area Milwaukee Punta Gorda
139 RW170 : How do you guys think YX will (or won't) respond to the new MKE service?
140 Delta767 : What happened to the potential GSO announcement?
141 USAirALB : Quoting SQ132:Albany is like a 3 or 4 hour drive from NYC! No its not its like 2 hrs. I live in ALB and do it all the time.
142 Steeler83 : Gulfport? How far is that from New Orleans, like an hour's drive or so? I remember being in the Big Easy on a bus trip back in 2004/05, and it took u
143 Itsnotfinals : According to Google Maps it is: 75.3 miles from 10 Bourbon St in the heartt of the French Quarter to GPT airport. The same location to MSY is 16.1 mi
144 Gsoflyer : Not 100 students. 100 sessions of 1000 students. Combine that with the numbers of commuter students that fly in every weekend for the winter and summ
145 Tornado82 : Considering my roommate's little brother went to Elon and I was there once... there aren't 100,000 students there. Your math is extremely flawed. Bes
146 Post contains images Itsnotfinals : At least FL made Bloomington Normal work
147 MSYtristar : Passengers flying SX from CMH to GPT with a final destination of downtown New Orleans should plan on a typical hour and a half drive during non rush
148 Itsnotfinals : It's good to see the infrastructure getting built up back there again, it's worth a little delay. New Orleans has always held a lot of great memories
149 MSYtristar : They are actually building two entirely new bridges over the lake which will be 30 feet tall (as opposed to the current 15 feet) and are supposed to
150 Gsoflyer : I'm sorry you didn't bother to read my post. You know the lines that say. 100 programs of 1000 students. Meaning, 1/6 of the school at most. 1000 stu
151 Tornado82 : You ever been to places like Lafayette or Morgantown? Dying industries, eh? What's GSO? A town living in the shadow of the real cities in its state,
152 CitrusCritter : Not agreeing with his thesis, but you have to remember that universities generate non-student travel. If they have good libaries, you'll get research
153 Tornado82 : But again, conferences aren't daily occurances, etc. They're just a small drop in the bucket of travel in any city.
154 Gsoflyer : Bitter much? You still have side stepped every argument I made. That's fine. But then you apparently know everything there is to know so why argue it
155 Gsoflyer : Small drop in the bucket? Universities constantly have regular business visitors, visiting professors, professors that commute, student groups leavin
156 Lexy : You have a point. If the idea that colleges and universities were big draws for travellers, then cities like Lexington, KY and Bowling Green, KY woul
157 SkyyMaster : Not trying to beat a dead horse here and I'm certainly not trying to put words in anyone's mouth. However: yes colleges kids fly. How often? two or t
158 OB1504 : If I could afford a private jet or a Lamborghini, chances are I wouldn't be flying Skybus.
159 Post contains links Oaktowntwinz : [quote=USAirAlb,reply=i could understand that because RIC is a smaller aprt. that ALB[/quote] Having been to both, I find that hard to believe. What a
160 Gsoflyer : Unless you blew all your money on a car and have to cut corners in other places.
161 CitrusCritter : What would y'all think of SX moving their LA ops to ONT and developing that as a focus city?
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