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Co's CLE Major Expansion Announcement!  
User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1099 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12189 times:

Here it is!!!



CONTINENTAL AIRLINES ANNOUNCES MAJOR EXPANSION

AT CLEVELAND HOPKINS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT



CLEVELAND, Sept.14, 2007 – Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL), along with Mayor Frank G. Jackson and Governor Ted Strickland, announced a plan by Continental to grow its capacity at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE) by 40 percent over a two-year period. Continental will initially operate 50 new flights, principally on regional jets, and add 20 new nonstop destinations by next summer. By early 2009, Continental plans to add more than a dozen additional flights, principally on mainline aircraft, further strengthening Cleveland’s role in Continental’s global route network. The project is expected to create an estimated 700 Ohio jobs.

Many of the regional jet aircraft used for the additional service will be reallocated from Newark. Beginning in 2009, a number of additional mainline aircraft will also be allocated to support the growth.

Today’s announcement is the result of a partnership among Continental, the City of Cleveland and the State of Ohio.

“This growth strengthens Cleveland and gives customers more options when connecting within the Continental system,” said Larry Kellner, Continental chairman and chief executive officer. “Mayor Jackson’s partnership, support for air service development and his strong management team at Hopkins were crucial to our decision. We’re also grateful for the leadership and support of Governor Strickland, Lt. Governor Fisher and the State of Ohio, the support of Cleveland City Council and the Ohio Congressional delegation. All this support has helped make it possible for us to grow our presence here.”

“Continental Airlines is making a significant investment in the City of Cleveland and Cleveland Hopkins International Airport. This strategic investment is designed to maximize Cleveland’s assets, create a positive environment for business and serve as a vehicle for tourism to the entire Cleveland Plus region,” said Mayor Jackson. “I’d like to thank Mr. Kellner, Mr. Smisek, Governor Strickland, Lt. Governor Fisher, Director Smith and all who worked with me and my staff to make this vision for Cleveland a reality.”

“The State of Ohio is proud to partner in this effort to support this major expansion in the great City of Cleveland,” said Governor Strickland.

The State offered an incentive package valued at more than $16 million; to date, Continental has been awarded a $900,000 Rapid Outreach Grant, a 70-percent, 10-year Ohio Job Creation Tax Credit, an Ohio Investment in Training program grant valued at up to $550,000, as well as employment pre-screening, testing and recruitment services through the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.

“Ohio’s world-class transportation infrastructure and airports are strengths for our communities that enhance our economic development goals, and this expansion will bolster Cleveland Hopkins and support business development in Northeast Ohio,” said Lt. Governor Lee Fisher, who also serves as Director of the Ohio Department of Development. “Continental’s expanded air service at Cleveland Hopkins will benefit the entire state by improving access to Ohio and demonstrating to expanding businesses one more reason why more than 1,000 internationally owned establishments from 26 countries are located in Ohio.”

Growth to Take Place in Three Phases During 2007 to 2009: Phase One

Phase one was launched with a significant increase in capacity in 2007 in many mainline markets from Cleveland including:

Destination % capacity increase

San Francisco 45%

Orlando 33%

Seattle 32%

Los Angeles 10%

Seasonal flights to San Diego also began in late December 2006.

The 2007 capacity increase has been achieved through a combination of adding additional flight frequency and using larger aircraft on these routes.

New service to Quebec City began in June of 2007.

Later this month, twice daily flights to Oklahoma City and daily service to Ottawa will begin.

As a result of the growth in 2007, Continental’s operation in Cleveland will be 10 percent larger in 2007 than in 2006.

Phase Two: 12 New Nonstop Destinations

In early 2008, Continental will add 27 new flights to 12 new nonstop destinations including: New Destination Frequency Effective Date

Greensboro, N.C. (GSO) Three times daily March 3, 2008

Omaha, Neb. (OMA) Three times daily March 3, 2008

Savannah, Ga. (SAV) Twice daily March 3, 2008

Birmingham, Ala. (BHM) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Charleston, S.C. (CHS) Once daily April 6, 2008

Green Bay, Wis. (GRB) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Tulsa, Okla. (TUL) Twice daily April 6, 2008

Little Rock, Ark. (LIT) Twice daily May 4, 2008

Memphis, Tenn. (MEM) Twice daily May 4, 2008

Lansing, Mich. (LAN) Three times daily May 4, 2008

Des Moines, Iowa (DSM) Twice daily June 12, 2008

Kalamazoo, Mich. (AZO) Three times daily June 12, 2008

(Weekend schedules may vary).

In addition, previously announced seasonal service to Paris Charles de Gaulle airport (CDG) will begin May 22, 2008. The flight is planned to depart Cleveland at 7:05 p.m. and arrive in Paris at 9:05 a.m. the following day. The return flight will depart Paris at 10:50 a.m. on May 23, 2008, and arrive in Cleveland at 2:00 p.m. the same day. Both flights are served with a Boeing 757 aircraft featuring Continental’s award-winning BusinessFirst cabin. Paris is the second European destination served by Continental from Cleveland, following London Gatwick airport (LGW).

Customers may go online today at continental.com to begin booking and ticketing the new flights. In addition, customers have the option of making reservations by calling Continental at 1-800-523-FARE, or contacting their local travel agent. Introductory fares will be offered in the new markets. (See attached sheet).

Additional cities to be announced later will also be added during Phase Two.

Following the completion of the second phase of the expansion in June 2008, Continental expects to be providing 300 daily departures from Cleveland, up from the 242 daily departures in

June 2007. Total nonstop destinations served from Cleveland will grow from 80 today to 100.

Phase Three

Phase Three will be announced in 2008 and will add more nonstop destinations and a further increase in seats to existing Continental markets. The additional capacity will be in place for the peak summer 2009 travel period.

The Fleet

Continental and its partners have deployed a diverse fleet of aircraft at the Cleveland hub. Flights are operated with Boeing 757s, 737s, Embraer and Canadair Regional Jets, Bombardier Q200s and Beechcraft 1900s. The Beechcraft 1900s will be entirely replaced by Q200s by April 2008. The 37-seat Q200s are quiet, next-generation aircraft featuring state-of-the-art features for passenger comfort. The new routes will be flown by a combination of aircraft types operated by Continental and its regional airline partners.

More Than 700 New Jobs

In order to support the expanded schedule at the Cleveland hub, Continental expects that it and its regional airline partners will hire more than 700 new employees over the next 18 months. Positions will include airport sales agents and customer service agents. In addition, Continental is also hiring pilots and flight attendants. Continental career opportunities are posted at continental.com.

Airport Improvements Support Expansion

To support the growth of Cleveland, future facility plans call for an expanded security checkpoint area, a new meet-and-greet waiting area and additional ticket counters. A concession redevelopment program is underway to provide more retail and food and beverage options for travelers at Cleveland Hopkins - - at prices that are comparable to non-airport locations. Continental and the Airport are also reviewing different options to expand and/or relocate the current Federal Inspection Services (FIS) and customs hall.

Already completed are a new runway and centralized de-icing pad, C Concourse ramp replacement, expansion of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) bag room with a new in-line baggage screening system, and restroom renovations.

Continental Airlines is the world’s fifth largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 3,100 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 144 domestic and 138 international destinations. More than 400 additional points are served via SkyTeam alliance airlines. With more than 45,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with Continental Express, carries approximately 67 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture.

For the fourth consecutive year, FORTUNE magazine named Continental the No. 1 World’s Most Admired Airline on its 2007 list of World’s Most Admired Companies. Continental was also named the No. 1 airline on the publication’s 2007 America’s Most Admired airline industry list. Additionally, Continental again won major awards at the OAG Airline of the Year Awards including “Best Airline Based in North America” for the fourth year in a row, and “Best Executive/Business Class” for the fifth consecutive year. For more company information, visit continental.com.

###







CLEVELAND EXPANSION

PROMOTIONAL FARES





CLEVELAND - PARIS

Continental will offer a low introductory round-trip coach-class fare of $898 midweek/$958 weekend from Cleveland nonstop to Paris. Tickets must be purchased by Sept. 28, 2007. The fare is valid for travel from the day the service starts until Aug. 28, 2008. A Saturday night stay is required and there is a 30-day maximum stay. Tickets are non-refundable and a $200 change fee applies. The sale fare does not include a $2.50 September 11 security fee (each way), passenger facility charges up to $18 (round trip), and international taxes and fees of $94. Fares subject to change without notice, seats are limited and other restrictions apply.





CLEVELAND - DOMESTIC

Continental will offer a low introductory nonstop fare of $198 round trip from Cleveland to the following new markets:

Greensboro, N.C.

Omaha, Neb.

Savannah, Ga.

Birmingham, Ala.

Charleston, S.C.

Green Bay, Wis.

Tulsa, Okla.

Little Rock, Ark.

Memphis, Tenn.

Lansing, Mich.

Des Moines, Iowa

Kalamazoo, Mich.



Tickets must be purchased by Sept. 28, 2007. The fare is valid for travel from the day the service starts until Aug. 28, 2008. A three-night or Friday night stay is required. Tickets are non-refundable and a $100 change fee applies. The sale fare does not include a $3.40 per segment fee (each way), a $2.50 per segment September 11 security fee (each way), and passenger facility charges up to $18 (round trip). Fares subject to change without notice, seats are limited and other restrictions apply.


Cleveland the best location in the Nation
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User currently offlineRampkontroler From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 859 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12163 times:

You beat me by ten seconds! Looks good all the way around...I'm a happy camper!

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4630 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12151 times:

Im guessing alot of these ERJs are comming from EWR routes being freed up by the new Q400's.

Im hoping some cities like PVD will also see some of the CLE flights go back to mainline, maybe something like 2x 737 2x ERJ etc...



Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11116 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12124 times:

Good for Continental and Cleveland.

Well, we'll see how this goes. Definitely impressive to show this level of commitment to their "third hub."

Some of these markets make obvious sense, and are virtually no-brainers, like Memphis, Des Moines, Omaha, Little Rock, and even Greensboro. Others seem to be a bit of a stretch, like Lansing, Kalamazoo, Charleston, and Green Bay. We'll see how they perform, and if the hub can sustain some of these smaller markets with virtually no O&D.

In the 'big picture,' this will definitely serve as a test of the trend going back for the last few years since 9/11 of shrinking smaller hubs and degrading most service to RJs. Continental is the first airline in a long, long time that is sinking money into major expansion at their smaller hub, with the possible exception of Delta at SLC. While competitors have done nothing but shrink - AA/STL, DL/CVG, US/PIT, etc. - CO is growing.

Good luck to them!


User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12126 times:

Congratulations, CLE! Great to see a hub expansion. I'm hoping to see COEX do CLE-PIA by 2009. Wishful thinking I know.

User currently offlineBcoz From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12081 times:

Way to go Hopkins! Now if only Mayor Jackson and Governor Strickland would intervene and get the Browns on track....

bcoz


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1099 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12082 times:

BHM is coming back  Smile


Cleveland the best location in the Nation
User currently offlineATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12064 times:
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Overall great news, the 700 new jobs alone makes me happy!

However, I did not get my wish for CLE-SNA or CLE-BUR nonstop.


User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 646 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12042 times:

That is great news for the City of Cleveland and great news for the local economy. Looking at a map of the US, I think CLE is a good location for a strong hub.


I'm leavin on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again....
User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1099 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12018 times:

Hopefully they will announce some mainline cities soon too!


Cleveland the best location in the Nation
User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12018 times:

Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 4):
Congratulations, CLE! Great to see a hub expansion. I'm hoping to see COEX do CLE-PIA by 2009. Wishful thinking I know.

I second the motion. However, I am truly, truly afraid we may have to wait until the new terminal is built in PIA. Is there any ticket counter space, and maybe even gate space, left in PIA for a new carrier? I am not sure, it has been awhile since I have been there.


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11996 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 3):
Others seem to be a bit of a stretch, like Lansing, Kalamazoo, Charleston, and Green Bay.

My guess is LAN and AZO are going to be done with Dash 8s to add more feed.

Very nice increase IMO. Does anyone know the timeline as to when each city will see at least one Dash 8-Q200 in their schedules?


User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1014 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11996 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Thread starter):
Already completed are a new runway and centralized de-icing pad, C Concourse ramp replacement,

The runway is nowhere near completed yet. 6R-24L is still under construction.



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 857 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11948 times:

Quoting WestIndian425 (Reply 12):
The runway is nowhere near completed yet. 6R-24L is still under construction.

thats the extension of the old runway. the new 6L/24R IS completed.



Well nothing's dead down here, just a little tired
User currently offlineBcoz From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11932 times:

Quoting WestIndian425 (Reply 12):
6R-24L is still under construction.

When did 6R/24L go under the knife? Is it a rehab project? Last time I was there (late March) the 6C/24C was closed.

bcoz


User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11915 times:

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 10):
Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 4):
Congratulations, CLE! Great to see a hub expansion. I'm hoping to see COEX do CLE-PIA by 2009. Wishful thinking I know.

I second the motion. However, I am truly, truly afraid we may have to wait until the new terminal is built in PIA. Is there any ticket counter space, and maybe even gate space, left in PIA for a new carrier? I am not sure, it has been awhile since I have been there.

IF COEX decided to begin a CLE-PIA route, I'm sure they'd be accommodated somehow. IIIRC, Midway Connection (ex-Direct Air) used a portable ticket counter when they served PIA in 1993-1994 so maybe that's still an option.

I doubt we'll get COEX since Pinnacle/NW just start PIA-DTW.


User currently offlineRampkontroler From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 859 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11903 times:

Quoting Bcoz (Reply 14):
When did 6R/24L go under the knife? Is it a rehab project? Last time I was there (late March) the 6C/24C was closed.

Yes, it's undergoing repairs and 6C/24C is being used in the interim. Supposedly, when this is done the Center will finally be decommissioned and turned into a taxiway.


User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11903 times:

Congrats to CO and CLE. My favorite city and my favorite airline. And no - I don't live in Cleveland, but I grew up there.

You know there have been so many naysayers on a.net regarding CLE and CO's presence there. It's good to see those of us who maintained a "glass half-full" attitude have been validated.

Great job to everyone involved. Now Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, and the state of Ohio needs to do everything within their power to ensure they work in conjunction with CO for long-term sustainability of this hub.


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11855 times:

Yay! Continental is finally realized the potential and uncongested nature of Cleveland. I'm rooting for CLE-PDX in Phase 2
-A



What now?
User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11823 times:

Quoting Mkirch72 (Reply 17):
Congrats to CO and CLE. My favorite city and my favorite airline. And no - I don't live in Cleveland, but I grew up there.

this fits in with my plan to semi - retire back to the Cleveland area after 40 yrs in KC..i want to live in Oberlin and commute to Hopkins and be a ramp rat or maybe CSA...I will finally then be able to "afford" to work for an airline and have fun with it!..Beats becoming a Walmart meeter and greeter...!

These droughty summers here our doing me in and i really dont mind winter weather!


User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11753 times:

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 11):
Does anyone know the timeline as to when each city will see at least one Dash 8-Q200 in their schedules?

The DH2, and most of the initial phase including CDG, have just been loaded now in most systems. Here are a few I saw:

12JUN-THU-ADV OPER BY COMMUTAIR
1CO8732 CLEAZO 840A 951A DH2 0 111
2CO8771 CLEAZO 310P 421P DH2 0 111
3CO8776 CLEAZO 845P 956P DH2 0 111

12JUN-THU-ADV OPER BY CO EXPRESS
1CO3048 CLEMEM 1230P 133P ERJ 0 203
2CO2746 CLEMEM 845P 948P ERJ 0 203

15JUN-SUN-
1CO 134 CLECDG 705P 905A 1 757 0 800


User currently offlineNuggetsyl From United States of America, joined May 2006, 211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11712 times:

Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 7):
However, I did not get my wish for CLE-SNA or CLE-BUR nonstop

Cal needs to build up some more feeder traffic to get the bigger jets in there. By the way the plan is laided out looks like there banking alot on feeder traffic.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5211 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 11677 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Thread starter):
future facility plans call for an expanded security checkpoint area, a new meet-and-greet waiting area and additional ticket counters. A concession redevelopment program is underway to provide more retail and food and beverage options for travelers at Cleveland Hopkins - - at prices that are comparable to non-airport locations. Continental and the Airport are also reviewing different options to expand and/or relocate the current Federal Inspection Services (FIS) and customs hall.

Not to diminish the very good news, I wish more concrete info had been provided for these facility projects. If the LGW times are the same next year, a 2PM CDG arrival and a 3PM LGW arrival makes it sound as if an improved FIS is still 2+ years away.



Consilivm: Cave ne nothi te vexant
User currently offlineFUN2FLY From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1000 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 11610 times:

Great news on the new CO destinations and considerably well laid out plan to create feeder traffic in 2008 for 2009 mainline jets. However, disappointing on the City side of the deal regarding facility upgrades, new gates, long sought after D connector, etc. Did I miss something on this?

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1986 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 11610 times:

Quoting Junction (Reply 20):

I reread the release and it says all of the Beechers will be out of there by April of 2008. Glad to know that TOL-CLE will be upgraded soon. This will allow CO more marketshare in the market, something good for them, I love their product out of here.


25 Dutchjet : I do hope that the CLE gang, including Falcon84 and the others, are happy....CO did come through for CLE.
26 JetBlueGuy2006 : Wow, this is so exciting. Lansing gets the return of CO to our airport. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
27 CALMSP : shoot.................AZO as well..........could have used that when I was in college down there!!
28 N231YE : Yes...after countless job loss everywhere in Cleveland, I am happy to see some positives. I hope CO can keep promises...this is very good news for CLE
29 Post contains images TWFirst : Sorry.... it's gotta be BMI.
30 Mbm3 : Thank you CO! This is great news for the region and for us CLE-based a.netters!
31 Post contains images Piercey : Well, I was kind of hoping for a new terminal, but this will be fine Either way, I'm on my way to DEN later tonight flying Cleveland's hometown airli
32 Greenair727 : For the flights to MEM, CO used to code-share with NW / NW Airlink. Once CO's own flights to MEM go into effect, will they drop the co-share status wi
33 Post contains images N383PA : With all this expansion in CLE does that mean they will make space in EWR for more international services? I wonder if they even would consider to byp
34 YOW : I wonder if this expansion will result in more Canadian destinations being announced? YOW is coming shortly of course. I wonder if the YQB experiment
35 Junction : This brings up a good point. Most, if not all of this expansion is in direct flow competition with NW, especially CLE-MEM and the new CO Michigan cit
36 Jetpixx : Congratulations to CO an CLE! I am glad to see my hometown expanding service and the fine people of Cleveland getting new jobs. Now, if we could get C
37 Bcoz : I think I read somewhere (I believe on this forum) that NW is moving to A shortly, but isn't that back alley there on the even side of C a little tig
38 MCOflyer : Glad to see expansion at CLE. hopefully we will see more destinations on the horizon. I would like to see CLE-BRU and CLE-FRA. I know i am crazy but C
39 LAXdude1023 : Congrats to CLE!!! These wont every happen before IAH. Not to nitpick, but CO is Houston's hometown airline. I dont think CLE has one.
40 Bcoz : I'm pretty sure that I've seen CO market themselves as "Cleveland's Hometown Airline" before.... even though their HQ is in Houston.
41 Greenair727 : BRU--that's interesting....I'd like to see--and I know people may think *I'm* crazy: CLE-AMS CLE-FCO CLE-FRA CLE-TLV CLE-MEX CLE-GRU BKL-LGA BKL-MDW
42 SESGDL : Only three of those have any chance of happening, and one is so slim that it's close to impossible to due aircraft. CLE-FCO and CLE-FRA, and CLE-AMS
43 LAXdude1023 : Might happen: CLE-AMS 10% chance of happening: CLE-MEX CLE-FRA Wont Happen in our lifetime: CLE-FCO Wont happen within a 100 years of us being dead:
44 Jimbobjoe : Continental does the same in New York as well.
45 Skibum9 : Go Continental! Go Cleveland! And most importantly Go Tribe! And even more importantly....GO BROWNS!!
46 JetBlueGuy2006 : Does anyone know what Fleet type and what regional feeder will be used for the new Lansing service?
47 Bcoz : AMEN!
48 CALMSP : assuming it will be the Q200's...............I dont see us flying the RJ up there.
49 Joeman : Ecstatic that my conservative expectations were far exceeded and happy for the CO a-netters that their prophecies were fulfilled. Thanks CO!
50 Post contains images GoCOgo : 'Bout time something good happens around here. Hopefully we here about some facility improvements before long as well. Today's new RJ flights might b
51 BOAC911 : I wouldn't be so pessimistic. It all depends how much capacity CO wants to distribute to its other hubs, i.e CLE and IAH. For someone originating in
52 Skibum9 : Another point is yesterday's FAA order to reduce flights into JFK, LGA and EWR. This could bring additional flights to CLE.
53 YVR1968 : It would be great to see weekend (at least) seasonal service to YVR for the summer cruise ship season. Similar to NW's MEM Saturday service to supplem
54 ATLAaron : I believe SNA is already serviced from IAH.
55 Post contains links and images GoCOgo : Wow, this is big news. We made Fark.com. Its not news, it's Fark. Headline: "Continental Airlines plans direct flights from Des Moines to Cleveland, p
56 Steeler83 : Don't even get me started with me and... that. US is dead to me, along with the rest of the circus act in Southwestern PA... Good to see some rust be
57 Post contains images Falcon84 : DSM! DSM! RAH, RAH, DSM!! Hey, you guys can get psyched about CDG, but in our house, DSM is the biggie! You have to understand, my wife is from DSM. W
58 MasseyBrown : There's an interesting qualifier in the WKSU radio report. It says that a portion of Ohio's $16 million contribution is a tax abatement that is contin
59 Indy : Congrats CLE. I'd love to do a mileage run through there once to see how the facility looks.
60 Steeler83 : They've been proving this with their CLE-PIT service... damn, I just keep making myself more and more aggravated...
61 Post contains images CIDflyer : Sounds good to me, I would love to see CO at CID! What other new markets could we see connected to the CLE hub? PIA? MLI? BMI? RST? FSD? SPI? It woul
62 Dimoko : Hey, at the very least, maybe the browns will get us some heavies for their long distance charters every once in awhile!
63 Joeman : I'm sure you know that CLE has felt the same exact way for decades in many ways and certainly in air service. With aviation it started with the UA wi
64 Joeman : Please don't ever change. The quality reputation of CO CLE employees has been emphasized on this forum many times and I know it's true from personal
65 Steeler83 : I see your point. It seems to me that CLE has established a little bit more of a white collar type economy after the industrial collapse. It is an in
66 MasseyBrown : I agree. In Mayor Campbell's days, the city wisely invited CO to participate directly in the airport's project management; it was an honest recogniti
67 Joeman : Hard to figure right now, but in a similar way as CLE with UA, it probably has to be past US.
68 Greenair727 : Falcon, what do you mean by slots?
69 Greenair727 : I was just curious about how many people have jumped onto the maiden voyage of CLE-CDG on the first night, 22MAY08, but it looks like zero seats have
70 Ncflyer : Does anyone out there have more details on the terminal plans? Even the Plain Dealer article says details on the terminal project have been sparse. I
71 MD90fan : Great news for the small towns in mention, RJ hub service is big business to these small to midsize communities. With that being said, I'd like to see
72 Steeler83 : Where does UA fly now from CLE? IAD, ORD, DEN, LAX and SFO? I take it they're nothing more than a spoke at CLE. Well then US... Have at it! Regarding
73 Falcon84 : They fly nonstop to only ORD, IAD and DEN. That's it. LGW has been a 752 since it inagurated here in '99, and CDG will be the same gague. AMS would a
74 RJdxer : I don't see why. Prior to 9/11 CO used to serve Lansing and Kalamazoo along with Toledo and Fort Wayne. They were serviced with beech 1900's. Those p
75 Dutchjet : You are thinking right, but we have discussed this privately. If CLE-CDG works, then CLE-AMS will likely launch the following summer (Summer 2009 tim
76 RJdxer : Well then it will be LGW-sometimes YQX-CLE unless they weight restrict it in the winter.
77 Post contains images Falcon84 : EWR-CLE-HNL, I'd imagine.
78 Greenair727 : Does CO at CLE have the equipment to load and unload cans? If not, are there plans for it?
79 DTWAGENT : I hope the take the B1900 off the TOL route. I would fly CO from TOL. However, I will not fly on the B1900's. Did it once and I thought I was going to
80 Rampkontroler : We used to when we had A300 service but it's long gone. Shouldn't take too much to get some new equipment if needed.
81 Dutchjet : You do have a good imagination. If you take a look, CO's 757 transatlantic flights probably end up visiting Goose Bay/Gander more often in the summer
82 Steeler83 : And UA used to have a focus city of some sort in CLE? Wow... that is amazing... Do tell me, how bad DID it get at CLE before CO came in to build a hu
83 Post contains links Greenair727 : CLE was the second largest city for UA, after ORD. Though it was technically pre-'hub and spoke', CLE was an important hub for UA. They even flew dai
84 Steeler83 : Interesting, so I take it that after deregulation, they decided to open a base in IAD, and move all of their traffic down to IAD as well as ORD. Woul
85 Joeman : Your the first to back up what I've mentioned a couple times on this forum. Indeed, I'd explore revenue sharing between Cleveland and Brook Park if t
86 USPIT10L : CLE was opened as a hub in 1987, about the time UA started up IAD. They switched operations bases--CLE for UA went to CO and the CO/NY base at IAD we
87 Joeman : If I'm not mistaking, it got down to less than 200 flights a day, around 185-190 I believe...
88 Jimbobjoe : If CLE-MEX is considered possible, does anyone want to comment on what it would take to have CLE-SJO? Does anyone know what are the percentages of O+D
89 Falcon84 : Don't know to be honest, because I started in June of '87. We only had 16 flights at the time, and both UA and NW still dominated Concourse C. UA sti
90 Mnevans : I'm so happy for these announcements. Makes business travel to those cities a lot nicer come Spring! And the removal of the 1900's will be nice too.
91 MasseyBrown : The time for airline service at BKL seems to have come and gone in the 70's and 80's - done in by the decentralization of business out of downtown an
92 RampGuy : What about CLE-EVV???
93 RJdxer : Nope, on the odd occasion when equipment was substituted they had to deadhead in empty cans on the plane. One can loader is/was available on loan fro
94 CALMSP : that's the city i expect for a latin connection from CLE.........
95 Dutchjet : Dont get too excited just yet, guys, sorry.....stay focused on the idea that a key reason for CO building up CLE is to take the pressure off of EWR f
96 Falcon84 : Home run point. But it's also obvious that CO really wants to beef up its midwest presence, with some of these new and "old/new" cities. If all this
97 Post contains images Jimbobjoe : That's great information, thank you. It fills in an information void for me that really needed filling in. I'm a little confused however...did you me
98 Steeler83 : Oh yeah, I forgot about that. US had hub/focus city operations all over the East Coast pretty much, no? So US had an "interum" focus city in CLE in b
99 DCA-ROCguy : Good for CO, and good for CLE! If i lived in Green Bay, Des Moines, Omaha, or Kalamazoo, etc., and wanted to head east or south, I'd much rather go th
100 JetBlueGuy2006 : I will hopefully get to use them out of lansing in the future for that reason!
101 Rampkontroler : There are always cans and pallets available at the CO freight house here. The equipment to load them onto the planes just isn't present any more unle
102 MasseyBrown : Yes. UA had its own nonstop authority from CLE to BOS, MIA, SAN, SEA, MSP and most points in between. UA had almost equivalent authority at PIT but h
103 Post contains images FWAERJ : Good to see those B1900s leaving the CO Connection/CommutAir fleet (and FWA) by April... FWA won't miss them one bit. Those planes, especially the one
104 FWAERJ : And here's a good idea for Continental's marketing department: Why not do a "Next Time, Try Cleveland" ad campaign to promote the CLE hub as a hassle-
105 FUN2FLY : I'll be interested in their slogans. In London, the are a bit more direct: Choose Gat-quick not Heath-slow. Same point w/CLE.
106 Joeman : Nice to finally feel part of the network and strategy rather than as a pain in the rear inheritance because of a point in time when there was a growt
107 TWFirst : I'm sorry, but DTW definitely isn't in the same category as ORD.... connecting at DTW is easy and pleasurable and DTW is state-of-the-art. Instead, t
108 CALMSP : yeah, DTW beats CLE in my mind.........however, CLE is a little smaller and the walks can be shorter than the mile long terminal in DTW!!
109 Post contains images N702ML : I know...its probably shocking to some PIT fans that there was a possible hub/focus city somplace other than PIT.
110 SANFan : Congrat's CLE! There's little in the civil aviation world better than the development of a hub, bringing a gaggle of new n/s service from your city to
111 Post contains images WestIndian425 : Sorry I took so long to respond. Been under the weather for a while, and feeling much better now. Actually, 6L/24R isn't being extended, but moved. Th
112 Post contains links MasseyBrown : I think you mean 6R/24L - and it is being extended to 9.956 ft. See: http://www.clevelandairport.com/Port...RUNWAY%20CLOSURE%20JULY%202007.pdf
113 Post contains images MasseyBrown : OK, now that it's Sunday morning, the champagne has gone flat, and we all have slight headaches, we might as well start speculating about the 5 cities
114 CALMSP : i'll throw my money down on PDX/SLC/MEX/COS/ABQ with mainline service returning to ORD/DFW/ATL
115 Falcon84 : I think it will be PDX, SLC, SNA, ROA and ATW
116 AS739X : Hey Mass..don't laugh, I want to see a return to CAK ASSFO
117 Ncflyer : I thought no new mainline flying until 09 (12 new flights), remaining announcements this year on regionals? Maybe I'm reading too much into the press
118 CALMSP : i'd like to know why we think BHM will work now after we tried it just a year or so ago. I'm also trying to figure out how DSM-CLE will work. We could
119 MasseyBrown : We're relying on the statement in the press release that says: "Additional cities to be announced later will also be added during Phase Two." In the
120 FUN2FLY : Massey, like the list, but my read was the 5 new cities would be RJ's as the mainline aircraft wouldn't be available until 2009. Unless, they run red
121 CALMSP : i believe we used to have seasonal service to MTJ/HDN before.........but this was before my time started
122 TrijetFan1 : The Burke Lakefront flights also will not work because Cleveland and Continental Airlines signed a no competiton agreement so no commercial flights o
123 Greenair727 : For how long is this in effect? Do you know where I can get a copy of this agreement?
124 PHXmd80 : At that time in the late 1980's, Cleveland was home to more than 30 fortune 500 companies (Not sure how many now). It was, and still is, a great busi
125 Post contains images WestIndian425 : " target=_blank>http://www.clevelandairport.com/Port...7.pdf Right right right....still recovering from my illness.
126 Post contains images FATFlyer : SAC would be a real blue-sky since there have been no commercial flights at Sacramento Executive/Municpal Airport since 1967. Now SMF might be a litt
127 Post contains images Steeler83 : Wow... that is quite impressive. PIT is home to 6 (and shrinking). We're still trying to market the city as a good business opportunity, but with a d
128 Vega : Why is the reasoning so complex on this matter. CO chose to invest in and grow CLE as a "RELIEVER" for congested/delay prone EWR - it's really that s
129 SANFan : OK. So for fun, we'll assume it is 5 more cities and we'll assume it could be mainline cities and we'll assume PHX' list of 7 new cities will somehow
130 RJdxer : One reason might be that a year ago the big runway was under construction and even flights to IAH had to be weight restricted. Construction is done n
131 PHXmd80 : Looking back at the press release, I believe that most of the service will be traansferred from Newark, not new service. So if SNA were they case, we
132 United_Fan : It sure would be nice to see some differant CO metal in ROC. Those ERJ's get a little boring to spot. I know BUF has/had mainline 73G's to EWR. All w
133 MasseyBrown : I figured that the joking tone of my message would signal that neither of my lists was completely serious. There are people posting who have a much b
134 Joeman : AZO and LAN are back for the third time I believe, in addition to the other six routes to be restored. Savannah and Charleson S.C. were formerly week
135 ATLAaron : Doesn't SNA have some sort of rule about how many flights in or how many seats an airline can offer into it? If that is the case, is CO at their quot
136 CIDflyer : me too!!! back to the topic....its nice to see CO grow at CLE, I am still hoping to see CID get a flight, would really like to see CO in this market.
137 Tornado82 : Does anyone else think that in light of this news, ExpressJet's entry music CD needs to be updated, and include Kenny Chesney's - Anything But Mine? I
138 STT757 : CO is not dropping any EWR flights, the Regional Jets are being transferred to CLE from EWR when they are replaced by the Q-400s at EWR starting in J
139 Steeler83 : funny how my username and that statement kinda had to do with the same subject, now back to CLE (sans les Browns) It is nice to see a good airline su
140 Jetpixx : AA recently ended service from PDX-ORD and I believe that this would be a great chance for CO to get in and scoop up more traffic with a daily PDX-CLE
141 Joeman : That't the truth That's for sure. Should be interesting to see the influx, then retrenchment and what if any.
142 MasseyBrown : But it hasn't. The number of F-500 companies left in Cleveland is somewhere in the single digits, although there is a very healthy number of up-and-c
143 Post contains links and images Tjwgrr : I'll take DTW over CLE anytime during the winter months since CLE is prone to lake effect snow off Lake Erie. It might be sunny and 18 degrees at DTW
144 Steeler83 : Damn... yet another similarity between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. PPG, PNC, Heinz, US Steel, UPMC are all that remain pretty much. But there are up-an
145 Post contains images CALMSP : lines can't be that long with 4 trucks/plane!!
146 Tornado82 : CLE does need to enhance their deice capabilities. They got swamped last winter, and with adding more and more flights it won't get better. Maybe the
147 Airbusaddict : BAH!!!! FSD still wasnt in the group of expansion!
148 Post contains images Mnevans : Didn't the new central deicing pad get put into place for last winter? Besides, La Nina is happening this year, so no worries!
149 Post contains images Falcon84 : Occasionally, but actually not all that often. Most of the snow belt in the CLE area is northeast and southeast of the airport. The dividing line is,
150 Post contains links MasseyBrown : Here's a link: http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/326997261544349.php that says Delphi Packard Electric move its HQs from Warren to Streetsbo
151 Tornado82 : Uh oh. Now we're going to have those YNG people in here proclaiming how they need their SCASD and service to NYC/ORD/whatever.
152 Post contains links Greenair727 : Here's a good interview with Ricky Smith by WKYC, talking about BKL, the expansion at CLE, and plans for the future. http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.
153 N766UA : In that interview, Ricky Smith says quite bluntly that after this expansion CO's CLE hub will be "as big or bigger" than NW at DTW. Either he's full o
154 Ncflyer : That one on DTW may be a bit of hyperbole (midfield terminal is laid out so wonderfully in a way Hopkins never will be), but Ricky comes across as a v
155 Steeler83 : Which begs the question... Can CLE handle that kind of expansion/size of a hub? How many runways does it have, just the 3? I am sure that would defin
156 HPAEAA : 500 Plus departures... that might be a little rough, but he did make an interesting comment that nearly 70 percent of current passengers are O/D... r
157 Falcon84 : No where to put it right now. But if the region were smart, it would add all that room at the soon-to-be defunct Ford Plant to the airport property,
158 MasseyBrown : 6R/24L will soon (complete by next summer?) be 9,956ft, which makes me wonder why the xxx-ed out 1,000 ft of it couldn't be used with special clearan
159 AS739X : Massy, do you know when Commutair will be all Dash-8? ASSFO
160 MasseyBrown : The final B1900 flights are supposed to be April 4, 2008.
161 ADent : DEN is one flight a day on UAX/CRJ-700. CO also offers one flight, but it is mainline.
162 Airbusaddict : Any ideas on what the second round of Regional Service announcments will be in January, or sometime late this year??
163 Steeler83 : They should be thinking of that... right now for Pete's sake! The sooner they start planning and engineering for this, the sooner it will be complete
164 HPAEAA : They are.. the above interview with Ricky Smith mentions the New Master Plan which is in development... soon we'll learn what's in store for CLE.
165 Post contains images Steeler83 : Oh nice. Hopefully we can gain enough information about the master plan and then have another discussion of it on here, and then discuss any other de
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